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hlthe2b

(102,202 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 09:24 PM Dec 2011

Oh, fer Gawd's sakes (OFGS!): Gingrich Compares Setback To Pearl Harbor

Newt Gingrich Fails To Qualify For Virginia GOP Primary Despite Residency, Compares Setback To Pearl Harbor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/24/newt-gingrich-virginia-gop-primary_n_1168634.html
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Less than 12 hours after the initial statement, Gingrich's presidential campaign was forced to shift strategy after learning that the state of Virginia forbids write-in ballots for primary contests. At the time of the statement, it appears Krull was unaware of the state's law.

In a message Krull posted on the campaign's Facebook page Saturday evening, Christmas Eve, he backed off the initial, and apparently illegal, plan, saying only that the campaign was "exploring alternative methods to compete in Virginia."

In a bizarre move, Krull went on to compare the Virginia ballot ruling to the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor - which cost more than 2,000 American lives - describing both as "unexpected setbacks." He also said that in order to re-group and re-focus, "we each need to spend the next 24 hours enjoying our families and friends as much as possible."



Geez... I don't even think we have to give them rope to hang themselves... It seems they've gone all out to grab the "bazookas"

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Oh, fer Gawd's sakes (OFGS!): Gingrich Compares Setback To Pearl Harbor (Original Post) hlthe2b Dec 2011 OP
A day that will live in comedy cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #1
DUzy! hlthe2b Dec 2011 #2
Desperation ,absurdities, irrational comparisons , orpupilofnature57 Dec 2011 #3
I get it. A terrible problem, but white people aren't to blame. n/t dimbear Dec 2011 #4
There is no way a serious contender would not be entirely knowledgeable about the process! treestar Dec 2011 #5
Many delegate it to their team - and that is not a bad idea - but you need a very competent team karynnj Dec 2011 #23
would early on have someone assigned to review the deadlines and requirements AlbertCat Dec 2011 #31
Good point about the first team karynnj Dec 2011 #36
I would have thought the better analogy would be Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #6
What a freaking joke, the guy lives in Virginia and Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #7
And his CAMPAIGN MANAGER does not know the rules of the primary???? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #9
More conservative incompetence Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #19
Herman Cain for Secretary of Defense! CTyankee Dec 2011 #28
he would declare war on Ubeki beki stan stan Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #29
Well, he DID say that a Sec. of Def didn't have to know "everything" about other countries... CTyankee Dec 2011 #30
Wasn't that the argument Shrub used? Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #33
Did he? CTyankee Dec 2011 #37
That he didn't need to know things because he would have advisers Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #40
Pathetic that they have to make this argument cuz their candidates don't know crap about CTyankee Dec 2011 #42
He and the rest of the GOP ilk BumRushDaShow Dec 2011 #8
Bingo opihimoimoi Dec 2011 #10
So 2000+ sailors died? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #11
Another minor footnote for the List of Monumental Fuckups *gloat*gloat*gloat* NBachers Dec 2011 #12
Not sure how they did it yet, but I'm sure this is the work ScottLand Dec 2011 #13
"...And it was, um, like 9/11 also. Smirk." - Teh Newtie (R) SpiralHawk Dec 2011 #14
"He is a self-made man and worships his creator." sarge43 Dec 2011 #15
Jon Stewart and his Daily Show writers Submariner Dec 2011 #16
Self-inflicted attack....poor olde Newt he just can't help himself. Historic NY Dec 2011 #17
Was it over when the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor?!?!?! hootinholler Dec 2011 #18
Forget it. He's rolling Brother Buzz Dec 2011 #21
Somewhere John Belushi is smiling... hlthe2b Dec 2011 #22
Newt's life is larger than life for Newt. lunatica Dec 2011 #20
The man is an ass. madmax Dec 2011 #24
He's only concerned with spewing enough outrageous hate to land a gig on Fox... deucemagnet Dec 2011 #25
Newt is well on his way to following in the footsteps of.... hayrow1 Dec 2011 #26
Isn't it a pity ... Quasimodem Dec 2011 #27
Hyperbole is a billion times worse than anything. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2011 #32
Yeah, I'm sure my Grandpa . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #34
DRAMA KING. undeterred Dec 2011 #35
Gingrich.. sendero Dec 2011 #38
So is he planning a counter-attack? Cresent City Kid Dec 2011 #39
Ridiculous erpowers Dec 2011 #41
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
3. Desperation ,absurdities, irrational comparisons ,
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 09:33 PM
Dec 2011

It will be a nice 4yrs ,have a nice vacation president Obama ,and sweat nothing but the heat.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. There is no way a serious contender would not be entirely knowledgeable about the process!
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 10:47 PM
Dec 2011

The attempts to save face here are laughable!

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
23. Many delegate it to their team - and that is not a bad idea - but you need a very competent team
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:33 PM
Dec 2011

willing to do the grunt work rather than just talking politics. It would seem that a well organized campaign organization would early on have someone assigned to review the deadlines and requirements in each and every state. Think of it like a board game, wouldn't you want to know what the rules were for winning?

There have been less blatant screwups that hurt the campaign that they supported. It was reported that Clinton's team was blindsided by the Obama teams work in all the small states on super Tuesday. The importance of that was that when the Kerry/Caroline Kenendy/Ted Kennedy endorsements created momentum for Obama in the big primary states, he was able to end super Tuesday essentially tied with her. In addition, there were some states where he got as many or more delegates even though she won the state popular vote. (I think NV and TX are two examples. In TX, it seemed that the Clinton team ignored that it was a two stage - primary than caucus process.)

Had the Clinton team devoted resources to the caucus states on SuperTuesday, they almost certainly would have emerged from SuperTuesday ahead of Obama - rather than tied and facing the next tier of states where he had invested more time and resources because her team's only plan was a knockout on SuperTuesday. That momentum likely would have led her to victory. (I think the Obama team needed both the endorsements AND the error by the Clinton team to win - neither alone would have sufficed.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
31. would early on have someone assigned to review the deadlines and requirements
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 10:01 PM
Dec 2011

Maybe someone in his 1st campaign team... the one that quit... had done that.



karynnj

(59,501 posts)
36. Good point about the first team
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 02:47 AM
Dec 2011

It is not clear when and if he got any professionals after they left. You would think that they would have insured this was done. My guess is that any randomly picked person here suddenly put as the campaign manager for some long shot Democrat would have put learning that high on the list of key things to do early on.

In fact, I have a daughter studying in London and a non American asked her if she could explain what campaigns had to do and when they had to do it - and when was the latest that it was likely anyone could announce. I helped my daughter with that request. The second step in the list was that many states had the deadline for getting on the ballot this year. The first was setting up an exploratory committee so they could raise and spend money. Neither of us ever had any involvement in a campaign other than calls and canvassing.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
6. I would have thought the better analogy would be
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 10:48 PM
Dec 2011

Ethel Merman slipping on the banana peel in "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World."

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
7. What a freaking joke, the guy lives in Virginia and
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 10:53 PM
Dec 2011

not only was to busy doing book signings to bother getting on the ballot but he doesn't even know the rules in his home state concerning write in candidates.


How can anyone expect this person to be an acceptable President and how the F___ did they ever let him become Speaker?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. And his CAMPAIGN MANAGER does not know the rules of the primary????
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 12:38 AM
Dec 2011

Only the MSM is taking him seriously.
That is what they are paid to do.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
30. Well, he DID say that a Sec. of Def didn't have to know "everything" about other countries...
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 09:01 PM
Dec 2011

he would have advisors, doncha know...

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
40. That he didn't need to know things because he would have advisers
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 12:14 PM
Dec 2011

and they would know those things.



The idea that you might need some background information in order to create context for those things the advisers knew never occurred to the conservatives.

I guess from now on we can expect this insane argument from them on a regular basis.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
42. Pathetic that they have to make this argument cuz their candidates don't know crap about
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 02:39 PM
Dec 2011

the world we all live in.

Pathetic and scary...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. So 2000+ sailors died?
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 12:40 AM
Dec 2011

And we will be building a monument to the USS Gingitch?

Now at this point this is hilarity at it's best. The other choice is crying

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
12. Another minor footnote for the List of Monumental Fuckups *gloat*gloat*gloat*
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 06:02 AM
Dec 2011




In the near future Gingrich will be minor blip on the historical radar, just like the day Alexander Haig tried to take over the United States Government:

"Constitutionally, gentlemen, you have the President, the Vice President and the Secretary of State in that order, and should the President decide he wants to transfer the helm to the Vice President, he will do so. He has not done that. As of now, I am in control here, in the White House"

ScottLand

(2,485 posts)
13. Not sure how they did it yet, but I'm sure this is the work
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 07:51 AM
Dec 2011

of the liberal media!

This is sarcasm, BTW, I don't do any other kind of asm.

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
16. Jon Stewart and his Daily Show writers
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 11:29 AM
Dec 2011

and The Colbert Report gang must be stopped from taking their Thanksgiving and Xmas vacations during election years. We're missing comedy Gold here.

It's makes me wonder if these buffoons like Bozell and the the clown car idiots plan to make even bigger asses of themselves during Comedy Central vaca breaks.

hlthe2b

(102,202 posts)
22. Somewhere John Belushi is smiling...
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:18 PM
Dec 2011

Here's a little trivia interjection: Did you know they were prepared to sign Meatloaf for that role, had Belushi declined?

deucemagnet

(4,549 posts)
25. He's only concerned with spewing enough outrageous hate to land a gig on Fox...
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:43 PM
Dec 2011

...and sell books. I think we're witnessing the second implementation of the Cain plan for success in right-wing media.

On a positive note, both Democrats and Republicans can agree on the fact that Newt has no place in the White House.

 

hayrow1

(198 posts)
26. Newt is well on his way to following in the footsteps of....
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 02:42 PM
Dec 2011

another serious presidential contender, John Connally. Within the next five years, the smartest Republican in the history of the world, will be filing for personal bankruptcy and begin making pathetic commericials for a crooked Wall Street investment bank.

Quasimodem

(441 posts)
27. Isn't it a pity ...
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 05:13 PM
Dec 2011

Isn't it a pity Newt had to take time off from his victory lap to address this crap?

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
34. Yeah, I'm sure my Grandpa . . .
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 12:49 AM
Dec 2011

. . . who was blown out of his bunk and down a flight of steps at the age of 19 due to Japanese bomb impact . . . and likely had to save friends & pull bodies out of the water, all while scrambling for his life and surrounded by a nightmare of fire and carnage sure would have been glad to hear that hilariously stupid analogy.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
38. Gingrich..
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 09:57 AM
Dec 2011

.... is the poster-boy, the shining excessive example of everything I hate about the Republican party.

The arrogance, the presumption of intelligence when there is little, the idiotic analogies - all in one size 8 head. What a fucktard that bloated jackass is.

Cresent City Kid

(1,621 posts)
39. So is he planning a counter-attack?
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 10:24 AM
Dec 2011

I don't know if you guys know the football follies, but this is more like Jim Marshsall picking up the fumble and running to the wrong endzone than Pearl Harbor. Neither this nor Pearl Harbor are setbacks. This was a blunder, a self inflicted fuck up. There aren't many good ways to put a positive spin on this, but the Pearl Harbor comparison makes it worse. He may catch more hell for the comparison than the failure to get 10,000 signatures in his state of residence.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
41. Ridiculous
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 01:50 PM
Dec 2011

It is just sad that the Gingrich campaign would compare Gingrich not getting on tne ballot in Viriginia to the attack on Pearl Harbor. These two events are not at all similar. One event (the attack on Pearl Harbor) was an unforeseen event. The other was something that happened as a result of a campaign not doing what needed to be done in order for something to happen.

Not getting on the ballot in Viriginia is no where near as bad or as big as what happened at Pearl Harbor. Individuals in both the Democratic and Republican Party should call out the Gingrich campaign for this statement.

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