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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMedicare Part D has not saved money for Medicare
http://www.northeastern.edu/news/2015/06/researchers-find-prescription-drug-benefit-did-not-save-money-for-medicare/
We are concluding that Medicare Part D did not save the (Medicare) program any money overall, said Briesacher, a health services researcher in the School of Pharmacy with nationally-recognized expertise in drug policy and medication use in older adults. You have to be realistic about the fact that giving people access to medication is important, but its not going to substantially save money in other parts of the health care system or keep a significant number of people out of the hospital.
Did Medicare Part D Affect National Trends in Health Outcomes or Hospitalizations?
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2322799
Results: Five years after Part D implementation, no clinically or statistically significant reductions in the prevalence of fair or poor health status or limitations in ADLs or instrumental ADLs, relative to historical trends, were detected. Compared with trends before Part D, no changes in emergency department visits, hospital admissions or days, inpatient costs, or mortality after Part D were seen. Confirmatory analyses were consistent.
Conclusion: Five years after implementation, and contrary to previous reports, no evidence was found of Part D's effect on a range of population-level health indicators among Medicare enrollees. Further, there was no clear evidence of gains in medical care efficiencies.
Comment by Don McCanne of PNHP: Although it was important to include a drug benefit in the Medicare program there was concern that the conservatives designing the program wanted to allow the market to work its magic. The program was to be administered by private pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs) rather than the government. In fact, the government was even prohibited from negotiating drug prices with the manufacturers. Further, it was thought that the benefits of improving access to drugs would make patients healthier thus reducing future costs for Medicare.
This study shows that the magic did not work in that the drug benefit did not save money for Medicare, and it did not measurably change the health status of Medicare beneficiaries. Specifically there were no changes in emergency room visits, hospitalizations, and inpatient costs, nor was there any change in mortality.
It would not be surprising to see conservatives propose that the Part D program be terminated since it supposedly isnt doing any good. But there are innumerable studies that have shown that some medications do provide at least a modest benefit, though those benefits were not detected by this study.
At any rate, it is clear that PBMs are not as effective price negotiators as is our government, as demonstrated by the greater value in drug purchasing that we have through the VA and the Medicaid program. Also, the PBMs waste considerable funds in excess administrative activities, not to mention the added middleman profits that they divert to themselves.
Under an improved Medicare for all we would have a more efficient and less costly publicly-administered program that would ensure that the government was paying fair prices for our drugs. It is not that way now.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)industries wallowing at the trough of our Treasury that they have so efficiently raided with wars, oil and every other grift they could legally do.
merrily
(45,251 posts)For the record, Hillary and Bernie both voted against it. Obama was not yet a US Senator.
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former9thward
(31,981 posts)Gift or not it has saved them money and given them access to various medications.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)for their excessive profits. Other countries pay a fraction for their drugs that we pay.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Did it fail to do that?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)so expensive if Medicare had been allowed to negotiate prices with the Pharma industry like the VA does. Instead Pharma can charge what they like and they get it. This is why medications here cost anywhere from three times to five times what they cost in the rest of the world for the very same thing. Also, it isn't the rich people's taxes that is paying for this but the working poor.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I agree Medicare should negotiate, but that means they'll also have to refuse to pay for some drugs to make negotiations effective. The moment they do that, people will be yelling about rationing.
Interestingly, the drug management companies/insurers can negotiate prices, but are less effective and han a larger entity.
I think it's time to set rules for how, and how long, research and development costs can be recouped. Some drugs will never be cheap if we want to attract money and best researchers into developing new meds. But the situation has gotten out of control.
I'd be for government taking over the bulk of research, but that's not likely to happen anytime soon. And there are problems with that too.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)have to pay a private insurance company to get it. With all the money insurance companies get in premiums for all the coverage Medicare doesn't cover, it could go into Medicare directly with full coverage and drugs.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)thing about prescription drugs before 2005, other than provide coverage through Medicaid for the very poor.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)has helped me. But at what cost to the nation? I feel guilty being an enabler of Big Pharma.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)needed to handle these things, hence Medicare Part D, Medicare Advantage, ACA, and similar initiatives go to private companies who can raise the necessary upfront capital. I wish it were different, but it's better than not doing it -- which is the only alternative if the Republicans in Congress have to come up with the money.
I think we agree on this, you just get get more ticked than me over private companies benefiting from our need for health care. I think the government could do it better, but no body wants to budget the startup cost or take on new staff. So it gets outsourced to greedy folks. We just have to keep suing them if their greed kills us.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Maybe ER visits, hospital admissions, etc., haven't been reduced, but quality of life and access to drugs has been improved.
The program could be a lot better, but it's darn sure better than the elderly having to go without meds before 2005.
Improve it, don't give the fools an excuse to eliminate it.
brer cat
(24,559 posts)I was one who had to take less than the prescribed dose and skip some drugs entirely to make my meds affordable. I really wonder about the ER visit and hospital admission stats, though. In my case the meds were to control my asthma: being able to afford the full doses under Medicare Part D has almost surely kept me out of the ER and hospital. Millions have asthma (or COPD), and the best meds to treat it have been very costly, so I am hardly alone in having improved health, and thus avoiding ER/hospitals.
A shout out for your last sentence: "Improve it, don't give the fools an excuse to eliminate it." AMEN.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)pressure, asthma as in your case, cholesterol, thyroid, blood thinners, arthritis and a lot more, doesn't keep people out of the hospital.
Something is not right. They haven't adjusted for something, people living longer, more people on Medicare, or something.
I guess the recent changes to the law, closing the "donut hole" over time, will put more in hospital. Just don't believe it.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)is "saving money" the key issue when it comes to healthcare? If it were possible to get a single payer healthcare system but it did not "save money", I think most DUers would still favor it.
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)the rest of the advanced countries.(of which we don't belong anymore!) The reason is, unlike the rest of our businesses which have to compete globally thanks to our 'free' trade bullshit programs, the pharmaceutical companies have been protected by all the corporate politicians, and especially the ones on committees dealing with the FDA and pharmacy industry. Unfortunately for us, some of our favorite Dem heroes (Kennedy, Kerry, etc.) made sure the industries were protected and the consumers were screwed royally for years.