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Snowden, Putin, Greece: Its All The Same Story
Posted by Raúl Ilargi Meijer at 7:09 pm
Through the last decades, as we have been getting ever more occupied trying to be what society tells us is defined as successful, we all missed out on a lot of changes in our world. Or perhaps we should be gentle to ourselves and say were simply slow to catch up.
Which is somewhat curious since weve also been getting bombarded with fast increasing amounts of what were told is information, so youd think it might have become easier to keep up. It was not.
While we were busy being busy we for instance were largely oblivious to the fact the US is no longer a beneficial force in the world, and that it doesnt spread democracy or freedom. Now you may argue to what extent that has ever been true, and you should, but the perception was arguably much closer to the truth 70 years ago, at the end of WWII, then it is today.
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The Sunday Times ran a story today -which the entire world press parroted quasi verbatim- that claimed MI6 had felt compelled to call back some of its operatives from the field because Russia and China had allegedly hacked into the encrypted files Edward Snowden allegedly carried with him to Russia (something Snowden denied on multiple occasions). Glenn Greenwalds take down of the whole thing is for good reasons- far better than I could provide, and its blistering, it leaves not a single shred of the article. Problem is, the dies been cast, and many more people read the Times and all the media whove reprinted its fiction, than do read Greenwald:
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Please read Greenwalds piece. Its excellent. Turns out the Times made it all up. At the same time, its just one example of something much more expansive: the entire world view of the vast majority of Americans and Europeans, and that means you too, is weaved together from a smorgasbord of made-up stories, narratives concocted to make you see what someone else wants you to see.
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In short, the propaganda we should be worried about is not Russias, its our own. And it comes from just about every news article were fed. Were much less than six degrees removed from Orwell.
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http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/06/snowden-putin-greece-its-all-the-same-story/
malaise
(268,693 posts)our sick planet
I've more or less given up on network news, except for the BBC from time to time and Al-Jaazera.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)malaise
(268,693 posts)thought it was perfect.
There were these stupid fans responding to made up stuff as if it were fact. We did laugh!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
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"Its downright borderline criminally tragic that NATO claims its building up its presence in the region as a response to Russian actions. What actions? Nothing was going on until we supported a coup in Kiev, installed a puppet government and let them wage war on their own citizens. That war killed a lot of people. And if Kiev has any say in the matter, it aint over by a long shot. Poroshenko and Yats still want it all back. So does NATO.
When signing a post-cold war strategic cooperation pact with Russia in 1997, Nato pledged not to station ground forces permanently in eastern Europe in the current and foreseeable security environment. But that environment has been transformed by Putins decision to invade and annex parts of Ukraine and the 1997 agreement is now seen as obsolete.
Meanwhile, Russia re-took Crimea without a single shot being fired. But that is still what the western press calls aggression. Russia doesnt even deem to respond to our innuendo, they feel theres nothing to be gained from that because our stories have been pre-cooked and pre-chewed anyway. Something that we are going to greatly regret."
Anyway, since this person doesn't have any skills-
I'll make this thread useful by adding someone who does!
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)If Crimea had wanted to stay with Ukraine, they would have started firefights with the masked, machine-gun-carrying paramilitaries that had set up checkpoints all over Crimea over night.
But they didn't.
Which is proof that Crimea wants to be with Russia.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Imagine Obama apologizing: "Hey, Iran, we are sorry we toppled your democracy and installed a bloodthirsty tyrant who then had to be toppled by your Mullahs."
Heads would explode.
Same old BS, different day.
Fool me 477 times, shame on you. Fool me again? Shame on you again. It's so obvious, yet some never learn.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)is a lie. We have entered the age of Truth. The Age of Aquarius. The truth is always in front of our eyes, though we choose to believe the lies because it makes life easier. But more and more people will abandon the facade of lies when they realize that their entire life has been lived inside of the Matrix. It is indeed curious to read the aggressive defense by some members. It must be difficult to maintain their vigorous defense of the State given the cognitive dissonance.
They lie with such abandon now.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)When Obama said "war is peace" alarm bells aught to have started ringing in my head.