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Mon May 14, 2012, 04:57 AM

 

More young black men were stopped and frisked by NYC police last year than live in the city

South Africa On The Hudson
More on P.W. Bloomberg and his two-tiered justice system:


More young black men were stopped and frisked by police last year than actually live in the city, according to an analysis by the New York Civil Liberties Union.

About 168,000 black men between the ages of 14 and 24 were stopped under the controversial NYPD program in 2011 -- compared to the 158,406 who live in the five boroughs.

The startling statistic is part of a harsh critique of the NYPDís stop, question and frisk program based on 685,724 encounters between cops and citizens in 2011.

NYCLU also revealed that although blacks and Hispanics comprised just 14 % of the population in six precincts, they still accounted for more than 70 % of the stops there.

http://perdidostreetschool.blogspot.com/2012/05/south-africa-on-hudson.html

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Reply More young black men were stopped and frisked by NYC police last year than live in the city (Original post)
HiPointDem May 2012 OP
EFerrari May 2012 #1
barbtries May 2012 #2
Baitball Blogger May 2012 #3
ZombieHorde May 2012 #18
DLevine May 2012 #4
progressoid May 2012 #5
cornelldem May 2012 #6
HiPointDem May 2012 #7
EFerrari May 2012 #14
CBGLuthier May 2012 #8
MrScorpio May 2012 #9
Mc Mike May 2012 #10
Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #11
malthaussen May 2012 #12
Mr Dixon May 2012 #13
EFerrari May 2012 #15
HiPointDem May 2012 #16
EFerrari May 2012 #17
HiPointDem May 2012 #19
EFerrari May 2012 #22
HiPointDem May 2012 #23
EFerrari May 2012 #24
sarisataka May 2012 #20
Dawson Leery May 2012 #21

Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 05:04 AM

1. The War on Black Youth has to stop.

The fake drug war normalized these abuses and entrenched the incentive to mass incarcerate young black people. We need to frame it as a human rights issue, which it is, and end it.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #1)

Mon May 14, 2012, 06:45 AM

2. totally agree.

it's outrageous.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #1)

Mon May 14, 2012, 06:59 AM

3. +1

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #1)

Mon May 14, 2012, 01:58 PM

18. Yes, yes, and yes. I completely agree with everything. nt

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 07:02 AM

4. Disgusting. n/t

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 07:17 AM

5. Awful.

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Response to cornelldem (Reply #6)

Mon May 14, 2012, 07:53 AM

7. Hmmm -- could the reason they're arrested more be because they're targeted for arrest more?

 

Because white people use just as many illegal drugs as black people, and sell them just as much too.

Especially at the highest levels.

And in my opinion, poor neighborhoods are targeted for that, too.

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #7)

Mon May 14, 2012, 01:24 PM

14. Of course they are.

There isn't a statement in that troll's post that is true.

And speaking of well researched work, Michelle Alexander was just on Colbert last week talking about "The New Jim Crow".

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/413973/may-08-2012/michelle-alexander

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Response to cornelldem (Reply #6)

Mon May 14, 2012, 07:55 AM

8. they commit MOST of the crime??!?

and some asshole racists (like you) claim they are lazy. Sounds rather busy and industrious to me.

MOST? What a fucking joke.

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Response to cornelldem (Reply #6)

Mon May 14, 2012, 07:58 AM

9. "Cornell Dem"? Is that supposed to be some kind of joke? nt

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 08:51 AM

10. Good stat. Thanks HP. NT.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 09:01 AM

11. Outrageous. But, isn't this and so many other outrages due to the fact that

 

there are an awful lot of "us" that are eager to blame some "them" regardless of reality?

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 09:09 AM

12. That is beautiful. I mean, truly beautiful.

So many implications wrapped up in one little factoid.

-- Mal

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 09:21 AM

13. IMO

Nothing new here, they have been demonizing Black people for years, next it will be Spanish people again and then Muslims and the cycle continue. Fear is the great motivator actually I donít think any of us will live to see the day that minorities are not feared, surely we will never see the day they are treated equality , even if your president.

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Response to Mr Dixon (Reply #13)

Mon May 14, 2012, 01:30 PM

15. There's so much more to it than fear.

Last edited Mon May 14, 2012, 03:13 PM - Edit history (1)

In fact, I'm begining to see that mass incarceration is one way the conservative status quo perpetuates itself.

You target black and brown youth in your fake drug war and you create a huge private prison industry. Big cash money for police departments incentivizes lots of arrests, not urgent arrests. More, since "felons" can't vote, you can divert Federal funds from the home communities where these people lived out to the rural, mostly white communities where these people are warehoused WHILE you are building a conservative voting majority in Democratic strongholds by disenfranchising millions of voters for the rest of their lives.

Efficient.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #15)

Mon May 14, 2012, 01:51 PM

16. Not to mention the boogeyman of "crime" to scare the public into buying more police, and the

 

ever-useful meme of "black crime" for the divide-and-conquer race wars.

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #16)

Mon May 14, 2012, 01:56 PM

17. Lately, I wonder if the public isn't mostly left out of the loop

because it's easier to wave cash at police departments to get them on board. At that point, what we think doesn't matter much. But yeah, Reagan had to sell the "crack epidemic" to us, Michelle Alexander says his White House hired staff to do exactly that -- three years AFTER he began the War on Americans of Color. And of course, one of the reasons Maxine Waters is hated by people like Porter Goss, former CIA, is that she busted them sending crack into her district during Iran-Contra.

We didn't hold the Iran-Contra felons accountable, and their program went national at home and global abroad. We blew it.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #17)

Mon May 14, 2012, 02:06 PM

19. "Lately" = post-911, when they waved dark-skinned terrorists to roll over us with military &

 

police build-up.

Didn't you hear that 911 changed everything?

"We" (if by "we" you mean "they") have never held anyone accountable for anything, and that's because the folks holding the accountability hearings = "they" and the folks doing the crimes = "they" -- not "we," who are largely clueless in the hinterlands, our political participation confined to voting every few years in elections in which all the candidates are preselected by "them".

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #19)

Mon May 14, 2012, 02:45 PM

22. Well, imho, this little project really does go back to Iran-Contra,

it was exported at first to Central American and South Los Angeles and as the perps walked, they doubled down with the WoDs at home, money laundering and weapons sales abroad, and developed a codified infrastructure to keep the whole balloon up in the air. It was always about money -- remember, Negroponte was authorized by Junior to hand out SEC waivers to Wall Street.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5118451&mesg_id=5118451

The post 9/11 stuff is an escalation but it's not really new. Maybe that's why it was so easy to pass the Patriot Act and the rest of the civil liberties burning legislation like immunizing Telcos and the Military Commissions Act. We had already been primed for 20 years or so.

I don't think that everything is everything or that the Masons are running the country, lol, but the Iran-Contra blueprint for gaming our system has been branded into our national life. Those guys preyed on black youth and promoted the idea that black kids were drug addled criminals and here we are, all these years later, with the logical consequences of that idea. And there are a lot of very serious ones.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #22)

Mon May 14, 2012, 02:56 PM

23. if you mean the war on black young people i'd push it further back than that. but as you say,

 

post 911 = major escalation.

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #23)

Mon May 14, 2012, 03:05 PM

24. I think I'm meaning, the exploitation of cradle to prison routing

for financial and political gain to shore up the "conservative" establishment.

The targeting of black youth for social control and placement in an under-caste has been an ongoing operation since before our own revolution, as far as I'm concerned. Ditto for Latino youth. It just changes its form and sometimes, it dies down a little bit. And sometimes the larger community of color is more united and more engaged in fighting it than at other times.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 02:12 PM

20. But isn't this the model we are supposed to emulate?

which says the stops have been instrumental in recovering guns and driving crime down to record levels.


MAIG(Bloomberg) tells us we are awash in guns and violence and we just need to take some reasonable steps to make cities safe for everybody.
'Random' stops apparently are reasonable steps.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 02:36 PM

21. NYPD at it's finest.

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