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I am not a Hillary fan but she nailed it on (Original Post) malaise Jun 2015 OP
I'm watching Morning Joe PearliePoo2 Jun 2015 #1
Joe Scum is a pathological LIAR malaise Jun 2015 #3
Yep. ucrdem Jun 2015 #2
Looks like the ReTHUG response will be malaise Jun 2015 #5
It's a good strategy. ucrdem Jun 2015 #9
Let's hope so nxylas Jun 2015 #22
The story about the college girl was fucked up. joshcryer Jun 2015 #4
Remember now malaise Jun 2015 #6
Oh yeah, conceal carry permit = ID. joshcryer Jun 2015 #8
It's not NRA ID, it's government issued ID cali Jun 2015 #13
Sounds great. Orsino Jun 2015 #7
She has nailed it on this one. Vinca Jun 2015 #10
All sane Democrats would support this! It's an Us vs. Them deal! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #18
I have to agree with you there. As a GOTV activist in NC it was good blm Jun 2015 #11
She did. She hit on all the right points, from restoring the voting rights act cali Jun 2015 #12
Voting Rights will be a major issue in 2016 Gothmog Jun 2015 #14
malaise, my friend, Hillary and I are going to win you over./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #15
I've always suspected malaise is a covert Hillary supporter! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #30
The cons will twist what she said to imply she wants illegals to vote. B Calm Jun 2015 #16
The automatic registration that follows you when you change addresses JDPriestly Jun 2015 #53
I thought Hillary was brilliant... Stellar Jun 2015 #17
She did not just identify a problem. She suggested solutions. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #52
I've always liked Bernie... Stellar Jun 2015 #62
No fan, but she sure did! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2015 #19
It's going to be interesting seeing how the Repubs react to Hillary and Bernie both on the same day Fumesucker Jun 2015 #20
Right. Republicans are going to be put to the test in 2016. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #54
Yes. She was on point. Great issue, great proposals. morningfog Jun 2015 #21
Love the message, but it still felt scripted. Dawgs Jun 2015 #23
If you see her at a live event speech, it comes across so vastly different. glowing Jun 2015 #28
I did see her at a live event. It's why I feel that way about her as a candidate. Dawgs Jun 2015 #29
She's not a great natural politician but I am confident she will be great enough. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #36
On videos and TV, she comes across as rather prim and rigid and cold. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #55
I thought her delivery was strong and impassioned. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #31
Okay. n/t Dawgs Jun 2015 #34
K&R mcar Jun 2015 #24
Alex Padilla, Califronia's SOS, on Chris' show last night panader0 Jun 2015 #25
I sure hope California does it. I spent so many hours registering voters for Obama JDPriestly Jun 2015 #56
True, gotta give her credit for that. [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #26
I WAS THRILLED Mira Jun 2015 #27
And I double your thanks passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #51
And I am glad to see that all the Democratic candidates are twisting and turning to the JDPriestly Jun 2015 #57
If only we can keep the pressure on. passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #59
Absolutely. That was a great thing for her to do. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #32
I agree, she hit the mark and named the names which I really liked. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #33
Should be a message that the Democrats push every week. Dawgs Jun 2015 #35
Not HRC fan either, but credit due when due. Good for you HRC on point Jun 2015 #37
She needs to learn the difference between voter fraud and election fraud. n/t winter is coming Jun 2015 #38
She sure as fuck did! lonestarnot Jun 2015 #39
I agree with this statement. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #40
Go after them, she did and very well. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #41
Agreed. K&R. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #42
Good speech, but even more I applaud her camp sending a lawyer to sue for it BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #43
Megadittos, malaise! KamaAina Jun 2015 #44
The Republicans will NEVER allow it in the South.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #45
Great map. Do you have a link please? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #58
Sure... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #67
Thanks. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #69
Thanks, malaise. It was great, wasn't it? She nailed them to the wall. nt Hekate Jun 2015 #46
And then some malaise Jun 2015 #65
Not a fan either, but I think she is running a great campaign rufus dog Jun 2015 #47
I agree. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #48
Thanks so much for giving BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #49
K&R. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #50
I was really impressed with how powerful her argument was for voting rights. myrna minx Jun 2015 #60
They are squirming - they know she nailed them malaise Jun 2015 #63
Yep. Hillary is saying all the right things IMO. DCBob Jun 2015 #61
I'd like to see a lot more of Hillary in this mode CanonRay Jun 2015 #64
Stay tuned! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #66
Good policy and the right thing to do, kudos on this topic. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #68

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
1. I'm watching Morning Joe
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:50 AM
Jun 2015

and they just aired that clip. Scar, of course, was skeptical that the Re-thugs would try to thwart voter accessibility. That they would EVER do such a thing!
Eugene explained it to him...what a moron Joe is.

malaise

(268,724 posts)
5. Looks like the ReTHUG response will be
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:26 AM
Jun 2015

her emails and probably Benghazi.

Ah well - she'll kill them with this one.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
9. It's a good strategy.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:47 AM
Jun 2015

Save the fight for the repukes and avoid knocking other Dem candidates. If she has to stay away from the press and take hits for it that's annoying but if she lets slip one discouraging word about another Dem she'll get skinned alive. Hillary 2.0 is showing some real class and that's an encouraging development.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
4. The story about the college girl was fucked up.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:11 AM
Jun 2015

She couldn't vote because she only had a student ID, but she spent months registering other students. How many students did she register couldn't vote either?

Incredible.

It was a solid speech.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
10. She has nailed it on this one.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:52 AM
Jun 2015

I heard someone make the comment that you don't have to "opt in" for freedom of speech or other rights, so why shouldn't you automatically be registered to vote. I'm certain Bernie would support this, too.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
18. All sane Democrats would support this! It's an Us vs. Them deal!
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jun 2015

Make the Republicans fight this issue, it will be a blood bath.

blm

(113,019 posts)
11. I have to agree with you there. As a GOTV activist in NC it was good
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:52 AM
Jun 2015

to hear this will be a major issue.

As an HRC critic, I say keep it up and make my job a bit easier for the next election cycle.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. She did. She hit on all the right points, from restoring the voting rights act
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jun 2015

to automatic registration to expanded voting.

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
14. Voting Rights will be a major issue in 2016
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jun 2015

Hillary Clinton did a great job on this speech yesterday

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
16. The cons will twist what she said to imply she wants illegals to vote.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:18 AM
Jun 2015

Or something like that. . .

Hillary is smart though and will point out their lies!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
53. The automatic registration that follows you when you change addresses
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:43 AM
Jun 2015

would eliminate the danger of unqualified voters registering.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
52. She did not just identify a problem. She suggested solutions.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:41 AM
Jun 2015

OK, I'm going to say something snide: Maybe she is learning from Bernie.

That's a bit of a snark. But then it is a good sign when the candidates learn from each other and hone their campaign policy agendas by borrowing each other's good ideas. I'm all for spreading good ideas.

Our goal is to get 1) the winning candidate and 2) the best leader for our country.

Sharing ideas among the candidates will help us achieve both goals.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
62. I've always liked Bernie...
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:51 AM
Jun 2015

but it frightens me to watch 'Presidents' age before my very eyes, year after year. And I'm going to say the thing I guess I shouldn't say. I fear Bernie could die in office and that's what's keeping me from going whole hog on to Bernies side. I think he should choose a strong and youthful VP that's more like him. Then I can decide (morbid, I know).

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
20. It's going to be interesting seeing how the Repubs react to Hillary and Bernie both on the same day
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:37 AM
Jun 2015

Hillary on voting rights, Bernie on Social Security...

They really aren't used to getting flatly called out on their bald lies.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
23. Love the message, but it still felt scripted.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:49 AM
Jun 2015

I wish her delivery was better. It's always been something I haven't liked about her as a candidate.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
28. If you see her at a live event speech, it comes across so vastly different.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jun 2015

Unfortunately, The TV medium and online streaming is one the only places most Americans will ever see or hear her speak. This is something I said back in 2008 when she was running. And then I went to an event, and the difference was night and day. It was simply insane how different the speech I saw her deliver in front of a crowd came across later on during the news coverage of the event. Even her voice comes across differently and definitely the appearance of really caring about what she is doing, and not being such a "canned" speech. It's simply the oddest thing I have experienced to date in regards to politicians.

And I'm not saying I'm on board with anyone. If anything, I'm much more partial to Senator Sanders since I'm an original Vermonter and I know he understands direct democracy in action from living in that state for so long. I'm only saying this to point out that her delivery of a speech on TV is so vastly different than if you were in the room with her. And live and in person, she does come across as a dedicated, likeable, smart, and in tune candidate. I only wish she and the team could figure out how to make the "in person" candidate "pop" on the TV screen.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
29. I did see her at a live event. It's why I feel that way about her as a candidate.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jun 2015

It was in 2008. Maybe she's better now, but it seemed the same when I heard it on the radio. And, I'm not concerned about how I feel about it. I'm concerned how others will hear it. And, I can guarantee that most voters won't see her live.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
36. She's not a great natural politician but I am confident she will be great enough.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:23 AM
Jun 2015

We are going to face Walker, Bush, or Rubio...It's not as if any of them exude charisma...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
55. On videos and TV, she comes across as rather prim and rigid and cold.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:48 AM
Jun 2015

I've never seen her live.

That's one of the things I prefer about Bernie. He is just so focused on representing the people that he forgets about himself and comes across as warm and opinionated but with opinions that benefit the people, not opinions that he holds onto because he is rigid.

Hillary comes across as not very free or spontaneous in her spirit. Bernie is the exact opposite. The words just flow from his mouth. He really thinks on his feet.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
25. Alex Padilla, Califronia's SOS, on Chris' show last night
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:50 AM
Jun 2015

said that automatic voter registration would add 6,000,000 voters in California alone!
It's a no-brainer and it scares the hell out of the 'pubs.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
56. I sure hope California does it. I spent so many hours registering voters for Obama
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:50 AM
Jun 2015

in 2012. It's a lot of work that could be spent contacting voters in other ways.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
27. I WAS THRILLED
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jun 2015

She stood up, she called it, and like you said: nailed it!

Thank you, Bernie Sanders.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
51. And I double your thanks
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:41 AM
Jun 2015

She is turning left as fast as she can, now that she sees the way the wind is blowing because of Bernie.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
57. And I am glad to see that all the Democratic candidates are twisting and turning to the
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:52 AM
Jun 2015

left and toward the people who need representation. That's a good sign. That's the political revolution that Bernie is talking about -- or part of it at least.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
33. I agree, she hit the mark and named the names which I really liked.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:47 AM
Jun 2015

It's very smart politics and as an Oregonian I'd love to see the whole country take up our automatic registration and ease of voting policies!

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
43. Good speech, but even more I applaud her camp sending a lawyer to sue for it
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jun 2015

That is a good start. Hope this happens in more states.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
47. Not a fan either, but I think she is running a great campaign
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:08 AM
Jun 2015

Not taking question, it is early. The media is just looking for gotcha clips, great call.

Taking the fight directly to the pubbies, a double. She gets to come across as the nominee, she gets to gain points with Dems, and she gets to piss off the pubbies. I guess that would make it a triple.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
48. I agree.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:10 AM
Jun 2015

I've complained in the past about a lack of specifics on issues, well, she's specific on this one and she's dead-on correct.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
49. Thanks so much for giving
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:48 AM
Jun 2015

credit where credit is due!

That's the spirit that we all should have here. We have outstanding Dem candidates!

We each have our own preferred Dem candidate now.

But in the end, we will still have an outstanding Dem candidate, whether it be Hillary, Bernie, or Martin! While I have nothing against Lincoln Chaffee, who seems to be a good guy generally, I sincerely don't believe that he'll gain much traction with long-time Dems in a nation-wide race. In fact, much as I like Martin, I don't believe that even he - a life-long Dem - will end up close to Hillary or Bernie.



myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
60. I was really impressed with how powerful her argument was for voting rights.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 06:36 AM
Jun 2015

That was pretty great - and that it made the repubs squirm, was all the better. I'm so happy that she's brought this very important issue to the forefront of the campaign.

malaise

(268,724 posts)
63. They are squirming - they know she nailed them
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:04 AM
Jun 2015

I pity the fools who jumped on the voter fraud lies.

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