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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:24 AM May 2012

All my conservative relatives' heads exploded after I posted this on facebook


“I think people ought to be free to enter into any kind of union they wish, any kind of arrangement they wish.”

--- Dick Cheney, in response to question on gay marriage, June 2009
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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. Cheney shoots *friends* in the face and then -they- apologize to _him_..
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:32 AM
May 2012

Would you really want to risk being on his bad side?

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
5. THAT took courage.
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:36 AM
May 2012

It makes it a little harder to see President Obama's recent "evolution" as a courageous act in light of the fact that Dick "Dark Lord" Cheney said that 3 years ago.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
6. Not really...
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:38 AM
May 2012

If he had said it while VP, or say, in '04 when it was a major issue on the campaign trail, I would agree. But after leaving office? No. Sorry.

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
7. if he didn't have a daughter that is a lesbian,
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:40 AM
May 2012

he'd have been against it. Conservatives are always against something until it affects them close to home.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
11. "Conservatives are always against something until it affects them close to home."
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:14 AM
May 2012

No kidding...

Just the other day I ran into an old acquaintance that I used to work with. Generally a good guy, but conservative/repug to the core. We used to have some pretty heated political discussions...

Anyway, he told me that he had move north-west of the city, out into the country to a place with quite a bit of land. Recently, though, he and many of his neighbors were getting really concerned because some residence around them had found out that their well water was contaminated by...here it comes...natural gas from fracking going on in the area. He said he couldn't believe that the government was allowing the practice knowing that this was a possibility.

I didn't have the heart to say "I told you so."

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
8. Courageous to say it when you name is on the ballot in less than 6 months
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:48 AM
May 2012

It's very easy to say it when you're out of office.

Cheney's comment took no courage at all. He didn't say it during the '04 election season.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
12. For a Democrat? No, it is not courageous to say before an election.
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:15 AM
May 2012

At this time, it is madness NOT to if you are a Democrat.

Obama has no chance of getting the vote of those who would, now, decide not to support him because of his belated defense of gay marriage.

On the contrary, in no order to shore up support from his own hoped-for supporters, he needed to do this.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
16. he had nothing to gain, and even less to lose-
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:37 AM
May 2012


I think that supporting marriage equality when he was still in office would have taken a hell of a lot of courage for him. And we never heard him say this then.

He didn't speak up when speaking up could have cost him something. When it presented a risk to him. Pres. Obama just did.
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