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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:27 AM May 2012

North Carolina - it's worse than you thought:

The North Carolina Same-Sex Marriage Amendment will appear on the May 8, 2012 ballot in the state of North Carolina as a legislatively-referred constitutional amendment.

The measure would define marriage in the state constitution as between one man and one woman, and would ban any other type of "domestic legal union" such as civil unions and domestic partnerships.


http://www.ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/North_Carolina_Same-Sex_Marriage,_Amendment_1_(May_2012)

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North Carolina - it's worse than you thought: (Original Post) hedgehog May 2012 OP
Seems to me there's a case to outlaw divorce with that wording. sinkingfeeling May 2012 #1
A poll result I saw last night HillWilliam May 2012 #2
yep. Would have been voted down by landslide if they had known. Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #22
53% of North Carolinians support either gay marriage or civil unions mmonk May 2012 #3
The pro Amendment 1 people have been running ads on TV saying all this is not true. Jamastiene May 2012 #4
Our President believes this issue should be decided by the States. The Link May 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #9
My parents were considering moving to NC fruitsmoothie45 May 2012 #6
My MIL in NC told me that preachers and clergy were telling people on Sunday marions ghost May 2012 #7
I heard a woman call Stephenie Miller today and say they changed her polling place from JoePhilly May 2012 #12
And those laws about campaigning outside a polling place? marions ghost May 2012 #13
Why are you attacking their Religious freedom?? JoePhilly May 2012 #14
Deserves attacking marions ghost May 2012 #15
(Oh you're no fun) ... actually, my bet is that the precinct judge is a member of that church. JoePhilly May 2012 #16
you're probably right, but I'd be having hisher head on a platter... marions ghost May 2012 #19
I hear you ... I'd have gone crazy if that was my polling place. JoePhilly May 2012 #20
Here's a useful link regarding gay rights. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #8
Lovely. Ram hate through in a low-turnout primary. KamaAina May 2012 #10
That's exactly the plan. It would fail in November ... but might pass today. JoePhilly May 2012 #11
There must be a special place that is hot goclark May 2012 #17
du rec. nt xchrom May 2012 #18
If this goes through marions ghost May 2012 #21

sinkingfeeling

(51,279 posts)
1. Seems to me there's a case to outlaw divorce with that wording.
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:33 AM
May 2012

If marriage is between 'one' man and 'one' woman, then they surely can't abandon the 'one' to marry another.

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
2. A poll result I saw last night
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:36 AM
May 2012

indicated that 60% of the respondents had no idea how far-reaching the measure will be.

Looks to me as if insurance companies are looking for easy ways to deny coverage to children and domestic partners (even in mixed-sex relationships) for one thing. The first time a woman isn't protected under the domestic violence laws and folks can't get insurance for their opposite-sex partners or their children, THEN you'll hear the howling.

I will say "Don't come cryin' t'me. I told you so."

Bigots are getting suckered and the irony is almost delicious.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
3. 53% of North Carolinians support either gay marriage or civil unions
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:47 AM
May 2012

but have been led to think this just addresses marriage not realizing it forbids civil unions as well. Sooner or later, the sh*t will hit the fan.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
4. The pro Amendment 1 people have been running ads on TV saying all this is not true.
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:51 AM
May 2012

They are claiming it is all lies that it will hurt straight non-married families and their children too. They are fooling people into voting for something that is going to mess up straight people and their kids as well. It is not going to be pretty. I wish people would listen to the truth and vote against Amendment 1.

 

The Link

(757 posts)
5. Our President believes this issue should be decided by the States.
Tue May 8, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

I can only hope that his thinking evolves there as well.

Response to The Link (Reply #5)

fruitsmoothie45

(22 posts)
6. My parents were considering moving to NC
Tue May 8, 2012, 11:56 AM
May 2012

in a couple of years. As of where I live right now, there's not much I can do; I only hope people will come to their senses and vote against this, or I'm concerned for my own future.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
7. My MIL in NC told me that preachers and clergy were telling people on Sunday
Tue May 8, 2012, 01:19 PM
May 2012

to vote FOR the amendment. Those rightwing ministers--how do they live with themselves?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
12. I heard a woman call Stephenie Miller today and say they changed her polling place from
Tue May 8, 2012, 01:39 PM
May 2012

a library, to a church ... and out in front of the church ... you guessed it ... a big sign that said "Vote for Marriage".

Its getting better here ... but parts of NC are still crazy-land.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
15. Deserves attacking
Tue May 8, 2012, 02:55 PM
May 2012

If I had seen that sign at a polling place I think I would have had words with the precinct judge & filed a formal complaint if it wasn't removed....

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
16. (Oh you're no fun) ... actually, my bet is that the precinct judge is a member of that church.
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:00 PM
May 2012

Probably one of the guys who carries the collection plate.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
19. you're probably right, but I'd be having hisher head on a platter...
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:08 PM
May 2012

like John the Baptist...

Trust me, the sign would be gone, (through nonviolent means of course).





JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
20. I hear you ... I'd have gone crazy if that was my polling place.
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:49 PM
May 2012

I'd have started to take pictures and called the local Democratic headquarters.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. Lovely. Ram hate through in a low-turnout primary.
Tue May 8, 2012, 01:28 PM
May 2012

San Jose mayor Chuck Reed's attempt to do the same thing with a controversial pension reform measure pales by comparison.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
11. That's exactly the plan. It would fail in November ... but might pass today.
Tue May 8, 2012, 01:37 PM
May 2012

My wife, son and I all voted AGAINST it earlier today.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
17. There must be a special place that is hot
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:02 PM
May 2012

for these evil, evil, people!

When are they going to stop!!!!!!

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