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Quick question. (Original Post) GGJohn Apr 2015 OP
I don't have a problem with it fadedrose Apr 2015 #1
All very good points that I agree with. GGJohn Apr 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Brickbat Apr 2015 #2
I don't hunt. I have no issue with hunting bigwillq Apr 2015 #3
Agree. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #7
Agreed... Cooley Hurd Apr 2015 #30
+1 Motown_Johnny Apr 2015 #62
no problem at all with hunting for food cali Apr 2015 #5
Thanks cali. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #10
Me too, sometimes lift them on paper and put them outside...:) fadedrose Apr 2015 #13
I generally leave the spiders alone except Black Widows, GGJohn Apr 2015 #14
Our problem here is with Brown Recluse. oneshooter Apr 2015 #47
Don't see those in our neck of the woods, GGJohn Apr 2015 #49
I shoot my own turkey every thanksgiving NightWatcher Apr 2015 #6
LOL GGJohn Apr 2015 #9
..... Inkfreak Apr 2015 #43
Thanks DashOneBravo Apr 2015 #71
I used to hunt, but I don't anymore. MineralMan Apr 2015 #8
Thanks MineralMan. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #11
My pleasure. Everytime I eat meat, someone MineralMan Apr 2015 #12
I was a vegan/vegetarian after reading John Robbins' book "Diet for a New America" and it got me off libdem4life Apr 2015 #20
Thanks libdem4life. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #22
I don't have a problem with people hunting for food gollygee Apr 2015 #15
Thanks gollygee. GGJohn Apr 2015 #24
I haven't hunted in 35 years TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #16
Thanks TexasProgresive. GGJohn Apr 2015 #18
I wonder how that works on the high powered rifles used for deer hunting TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #23
Not quite sure how it works, but it doesn't silence the weapon GGJohn Apr 2015 #25
I found this TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #32
Thanks for the info and link. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #36
Suppresors are now legal to use when hunting in Texas. oneshooter Apr 2015 #51
That's fine for limiting some sound which is mostly an annoyance TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #56
I don't hunt, but Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #17
Thanks Erich Bloodaxe BSN. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #19
I don`t hunt democrank Apr 2015 #21
Thanks democrank. GGJohn Apr 2015 #26
On the fence pipi_k Apr 2015 #27
Thanks pipi_k. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #35
Pro-hunting. It's far more humane than slaughterhouses, poultry processing, etc. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #28
Thanks NYC_SKP. GGJohn Apr 2015 #37
Don't have a problem treestar Apr 2015 #29
I love hunting. Brickbat Apr 2015 #31
I grew up hunting/fishing in PA left-of-center2012 Apr 2015 #33
If you kill it, you eat it. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #34
Hunting for food OK. Hunting for people, not. Hoyt Apr 2015 #38
Well, you know... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #39
. . . . . .or hang their heads on the wall as a trophy. Hoyt Apr 2015 #40
Milita pointing weapons DashOneBravo Apr 2015 #74
Agreed. GGJohn Apr 2015 #46
Hunting for food should be the only reason to hunt, imo. bravenak Apr 2015 #41
I tried it a few times. Inkfreak Apr 2015 #42
Raises hand. Twice. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #44
That is what my family has always believed. jwirr Apr 2015 #45
No , I don't think I could kill an animal sendit Apr 2015 #48
Thanks sendit. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #53
Don't hunt, undecided but lean heavily towards do not approve. n/t PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #50
Thanks PowerToThePeople. GGJohn Apr 2015 #54
Answer PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #57
Thanks for the honest answer. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #61
I raise my beef and chickins. oneshooter Apr 2015 #52
Thanks oneshooter. GGJohn Apr 2015 #55
I have a 1911 Winchester M92 that was my Grandfathers. oneshooter Apr 2015 #68
Bigger Question RecoveringJournalist Apr 2015 #58
Thanks RecoveringJournalist. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #63
I don't hunt. LWolf Apr 2015 #59
Totally agree and thanks LWolf. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #64
I grew up in a rural area handmade34 Apr 2015 #60
Thank you handmade34. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #65
I don't have a problem with hunting as long as the animal is used for food. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #66
Thanks NaturalHigh. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #67
no problem with it. drray23 Apr 2015 #69
i have a farmhouse drray23 Apr 2015 #70
I hunt DashOneBravo Apr 2015 #72
Don't hunt. Have no problem with hunters (except the pansy big game hunters who have the okaawhatever Apr 2015 #73

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
1. I don't have a problem with it
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:01 AM
Apr 2015

So long as hunting is done in an area where it's permitted, not on some farmer's land who doesn't hold with it.

Not as long as it's far enough from homes that bullets don't penetrate the walls or break windows.

Not as long as the animals being hunted are not on the endangered species list.

As long as it's in season and people have licenses, no problem here.

Exceptions for Native Americans/Eskimos, etc., because it was their land and they didn't ruin it. We did. They are better caretakers of the land than our Congress could ever be.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
4. All very good points that I agree with.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:03 AM
Apr 2015

If we are lucky enough to harvest more than we need, we'll give the xtra to our local shelters to help feed the less fortunate.

Response to GGJohn (Original post)

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
3. I don't hunt. I have no issue with hunting
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:02 AM
Apr 2015

as long as the meat is either consumed or donated, and as long as the hunting is done legally.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. no problem at all with hunting for food
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:05 AM
Apr 2015

I don't hunt myself. Hell, I even have a hard time killing bugs.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
14. I generally leave the spiders alone except Black Widows,
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:19 AM
Apr 2015

I won't tolerate those our home, they get a quick catch in a jar and then transported to one of our barns to continue with their pest control.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
49. Don't see those in our neck of the woods,
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 07:56 PM
Apr 2015

but I have to agree, if I saw one, it would die, their bite is much worse than a Widow.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. I shoot my own turkey every thanksgiving
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:07 AM
Apr 2015

Sure it scares everyone else in the grocery store, but that's their problem.


J/k I have no problem with responsible hunting.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
8. I used to hunt, but I don't anymore.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:08 AM
Apr 2015

I fish, instead, and release everything I catch. Licensed hunters who follow the "fair chase" rules and who utilize what they kill are OK with me.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
12. My pleasure. Everytime I eat meat, someone
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:13 AM
Apr 2015

has killed an animal. So, I can't logically be opposed to responsible hunting.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. I was a vegan/vegetarian after reading John Robbins' book "Diet for a New America" and it got me off
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:34 AM
Apr 2015

meat for a long time. But I did the Mommy Van thing to McDonald's after games. I'm now a Flexitarian...a little every now and then and don't make people fix me different meals...and salads at restaurants got old. But I agree. Hunting is more humane than the slaughter houses.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
15. I don't have a problem with people hunting for food
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:21 AM
Apr 2015

It seems much kinder than eating factory farmed animals to me.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
24. Thanks gollygee.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:39 AM
Apr 2015

After seeing a couple of those factory farms and the horrendous conditions those animals live in, I swore off ever buying meat again at a supermarket, we now raise our own cattle, have free range chickens, hunt for venison, turkey, and an assortment of game birds, and we grow our own veggies and such.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
16. I haven't hunted in 35 years
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:22 AM
Apr 2015

I don't have a problem with people who hunt responsible. The problem is that many hunters don't understand the range of their bullets. While they may not be able to target above 200 yards the bullets travel much further with killing power.Some irresponsible hunters "sound" shoot. They hear a sound in the brush and shoot at it without knowing what made the noise, so they kill our dogs, cats, cows and goats.

And then there is the incredible noise of the gun reports during dear and dove season. We raise dairy goats and have livestock protection dogs (Great Pyrenees). The dogs hate gun fire and will not let the goats graze. All in all I wish that unless people have a real need to harvest animals by hunting for food they would do it elsewhere.It is annoying at best and dangerous at its worse.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
18. Thanks TexasProgresive.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:30 AM
Apr 2015

I'm in favor of sound suppressors for hunting rifles in the vicinity of dwellings and hunting courses.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
23. I wonder how that works on the high powered rifles used for deer hunting
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:38 AM
Apr 2015

It seems to me that the ultra-sonic speed of the projectiles makes more noise than the powder charge. I could be wrong but it sounds like a mini sonic boom. This is true for my single shot air rifle which travels at 1200+fps. It makes an incredible crack.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
25. Not quite sure how it works, but it doesn't silence the weapon
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:41 AM
Apr 2015

like what Hollywood likes to portray in the movies.
I know some European countries require suppressors for hunting and in the US, there are states that now allow those for hunting.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
32. I found this
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:57 AM
Apr 2015
http://www.shootingillustrated.com/index.php/1349/the-truth-about-suppressors/
Simply having a suppressor on the end of your gun doesn’t mean it’s quiet enough to conceal a shot. When shooting supersonic ammunition, suppressors only reduce muzzle report while doing nothing for the bullet’s sonic “crack” as it moves downrange. Anyone along that flight path will hear the projectile pass loudly, and anyone to your rear will hear a slightly muted shot. Even subsonic projectiles aren’t silent. While there’s no crack, they zip downrange with an unnerving sound when heard from the receiving end. The larger the projectile, the more noise it makes disturbing the air in flight. This applies to both supersonic and subsonic projectiles, though it’s a different sound for each. Likewise, larger-diameter suppressor bores generally equal more noise at the muzzle. The smaller the bullet and tighter the bore, the less noise escaping, all else being equal.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
56. That's fine for limiting some sound which is mostly an annoyance
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

but is does nothing to limit the super sonic crack as these deadly projectiles pass through my 40 acres. If they were like myself and my elders who mostly managed one bullet for one deer then it would be more acceptable.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
17. I don't hunt, but
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:23 AM
Apr 2015

I don't have a problem with poor people who need to hunt for food doing so. I'm less sanguine about people hunting because they simply enjoy hunting, even if they then eat the meat. But since I'm not currently a vegetarian, and not planning to become one soon, I would be hypocritical to completely condemn those people. Animals are still dying to feed me.

democrank

(11,085 posts)
21. I don`t hunt
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:34 AM
Apr 2015

but have no problem with people hunting for food as long as they end the animal`s life as humanely as possible.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
27. On the fence
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:45 AM
Apr 2015

I don't hunt, don't particularly care for it, but I understand people doing it for food.


One of my stepdaughters' husbands has been hunting deer for years but has never gotten one. He always sounds disappointed when he hasn't gotten one at the end of the season, but I think deep down inside he's not all that sad about it. In fact, I suspect that if he ever did manage to shoot one, that would be the end of his career as a hunter.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
28. Pro-hunting. It's far more humane than slaughterhouses, poultry processing, etc.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:46 AM
Apr 2015

There are even better ways to get protein, we don't have to eat animals, but if we do then hunting is the better way to do it.

For us and for the animals.

I highly recommend the BBC show "Blood, Sweat, and Takeaways" if you can find copies, streaming, Netflix, whatever.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00l2gww



treestar

(82,383 posts)
29. Don't have a problem
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:47 AM
Apr 2015

With it. But probably because of loved ones who do it. If it weren't for them I might be against it.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
33. I grew up hunting/fishing in PA
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:58 AM
Apr 2015

As long as the 'hunter' has gun safety training, hunts within the law (season, area, etc) I have no problem with it.
Eat the game or give it to someone who will.
I enjoyed being outdoors more than the hunting or fishing.
Then I moved on to backpacking and camping.

But there are a lot of idiots out in the woods carrying guns.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
42. I tried it a few times.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 05:39 PM
Apr 2015

I didn't really dig it. I'm a bit of a softy. I harbor no illusions about the the meat I get at the store and feel if needed I could hunt to sustain myself. I really don't like venison and wild turkey was kinda gross. Maybe it's the way it was prepared. I've slaughtered a few chickens to eat before. That was doable for me. I had moose, too. Not impressed. I was raised on farm raised meat so it's just my preference, I suppose.

I'm not a fan of trophy hunting but understand how some can be done and helps cull herds or raise money for preservation. I'm fairly pragmatic when it comes to this stuff. I think it's stupid when people get outraged at a licensed kill of an old beast on a preservation and little to no attention is paid to the poachers out there that shun the rules and kill at whim.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
54. Thanks PowerToThePeople.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:09 PM
Apr 2015

Question: Do you eat meat at all?
Do you think factory farms are more humane that hunting for food?

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
57. Answer
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:16 PM
Apr 2015

I do eat meat from factory farms and very well may have to change my diet because I do feel they are inhumane to the animals.

Hunting for sport I disapprove of completely, for food I am more amiable. My big reason for disapproval is that I feel all firearms should be illegal, no private citizen not partaking in civil defence duties should be allowed to keep weapons of terror and death.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
52. I raise my beef and chickins.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:04 PM
Apr 2015

But I do hunt for deer, hogs, turkeys, and dove. I use a Flint Longrifle, recurve bow, Sharps rifle and Winchester lever rifle. With all I endeavor get as close as possible for a one shot kill.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
55. Thanks oneshooter.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:12 PM
Apr 2015

I use a Winchester lever action 30-30 for deer, elk, and the wild hogs up here and either a .22 rifle or a .410 for the smaller game.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
68. I have a 1911 Winchester M92 that was my Grandfathers.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 09:46 PM
Apr 2015

It is in 38/40 win. and I also have the matching 1904 Colt New Service, also in 38/40 Win.

58. Bigger Question
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:22 PM
Apr 2015

So you mean that some liberals are not only ok with guns, they actually USE them. OMG!

Shhhh. Don't tell any extremist cons. They so badly need their rhetoric to function in their daily lives.

Oh and for the record, I'm ok with it.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
59. I don't hunt.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:24 PM
Apr 2015

I don't have a problem with licensed hunting for food. I have a major problem with poaching and with sport/trophy hunting.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
60. I grew up in a rural area
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:32 PM
Apr 2015

in a family of hunters... I never did. Once I left home, I started to homestead and raised all my own meat, killed it, cleaned it and processed it myself... these days, I am vegetarian... leaning heavily towards veganism

we live in strange times... it is a different world than what I grew up in... I have seen your responses in this post and it appears you are a hunter and you do it the moral and correct way... I can't condemn that

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
66. I don't have a problem with hunting as long as the animal is used for food.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 09:15 PM
Apr 2015

That said, I don't hunt. Just not my thing.

drray23

(7,619 posts)
69. no problem with it.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:06 PM
Apr 2015

i do not hunt but as long as it is humanely done for the purpose of eating food i have no issues with it.

drray23

(7,619 posts)
70. i have a farmhouse
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:11 PM
Apr 2015

my property backs a hunting club and quite often the dogs end up at my door. i know all the local hunters and allow them to enter my land to retrieve their dogs but not shoot in there. quite often, i get free venizon from sone of them for rounding up their dogs and letting them cross my land. So I get to eat game without having to hunt it. 😆

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
72. I hunt
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:00 AM
Apr 2015

I kill 3-4 doe a year and mostly process them myself. I send one to be ground into burger. Those deer are what we eat most of the year.

The limit for deer in our area are 3 bucks total during bow, black powder and rifle season. And during rifle season it's 3 doe a day. That's how many we have.

I'm also a "only kill what you eat type" hunter.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
73. Don't hunt. Have no problem with hunters (except the pansy big game hunters who have the
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:04 AM
Apr 2015

animals basically cornered for them)

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