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Big Ed wants to play 3d chess with Obama over TPP. (Original Post) CK_John Apr 2015 OP
No softball roundtable to dis Elizabeth Warren, I'll bet. Go Big Ed...get him. libdem4life Apr 2015 #1
Ed challenged the prez to go on his show and talk it out. Hope he does... polichick Apr 2015 #5
I think that's how he got him on. They are submitted pre-talking points. That's probably why Ed libdem4life Apr 2015 #26
Unfortunately, you're probably right. polichick Apr 2015 #27
Ed's still on the air? NightWatcher Apr 2015 #2
Big Ed and Bernie double-teaming the prez, who called out msnbc... polichick Apr 2015 #3
Even without his football concussions, Big Ed is no match for Obama. I remember when he was for the Hoyt Apr 2015 #4
Big Ed always fights for the workers. mmonk Apr 2015 #6
Without knowing if you seen the show, IMO, it verged on being disrespectful. CK_John Apr 2015 #7
I saw it and I saw nothing disrespectful. Cleita Apr 2015 #9
No, I did not. And MSNBC has quit showing his shows in repeats like they used to. mmonk Apr 2015 #10
That was great. Cleita Apr 2015 #8
Loved that big grin on Bernie's face! polichick Apr 2015 #11
He had that "What did this jerk get me into?" look. CK_John Apr 2015 #12
That's one interpretation. polichick Apr 2015 #13
If he was upset he would have ducked away for a phone call or a Cleita Apr 2015 #14
Bernie and Ed are trapped in a 1947 world view. We don't make everything the world CK_John Apr 2015 #15
And if you had paid attention you would have heard Bernie Cleita Apr 2015 #16
Then we better start making what we need. CK_John Apr 2015 #17
Yes. We'd better. But you had better do it communally because Cleita Apr 2015 #19
TPP is just a stopgap measure. My solution is lower SS age to 50 and since CK_John Apr 2015 #20
You need people working at living wage jobs to get SS funds. Cleita Apr 2015 #21
It may not be desirable but if your over 50 and don't know a smart phone from CK_John Apr 2015 #22
Yes it is. Now you see the problem. Really, go back and look at 1947. Cleita Apr 2015 #23
You have to take the world as it is, not as it was. Get ready for driverless cars. CK_John Apr 2015 #24
I look forward to a driverless car I can afford. I probably could if 1947 economic policies Cleita Apr 2015 #25
This WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #18
Thanks for posting this - more people should see it! polichick Apr 2015 #29
Give 'em hell, Ed bigwillq Apr 2015 #28

polichick

(37,152 posts)
5. Ed challenged the prez to go on his show and talk it out. Hope he does...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:56 PM
Apr 2015

Tweety only lobbed softballs.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
26. I think that's how he got him on. They are submitted pre-talking points. That's probably why Ed
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 10:42 AM
Apr 2015

won't get an interview. Pretty sure he's not going to work from their list, but I could be wrong.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. Ed's still on the air?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:49 PM
Apr 2015

I thought he disappeared a while ago. Didn't he quit his radio show and his daily msnbc show?

polichick

(37,152 posts)
3. Big Ed and Bernie double-teaming the prez, who called out msnbc...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:51 PM
Apr 2015

for its coverage of the TPP. As Bernie said, none of the other networks are covering it still,

Great segment!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Even without his football concussions, Big Ed is no match for Obama. I remember when he was for the
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:54 PM
Apr 2015

Pipeline. Then a bunch of MSNBC viewers got on him, and he changed his mind quickly. I do agree with him, but it just shows he's not particularly nuanced or knowledgeable.

About a week ago, Ed was going on about this "New dispute mechanism WHICH WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE would let companies usurp a nation's 'national sovereignty'. . . . . ." and basically take over the world.

One of the guests was telling Ed that most trade agreements had pretty much the same dispute mechanism for decades, even NAFTA, and that Obama was trying to insert improvements that would avoid any frivolous disputes, and the like.

Ole Ed was yelling and calling her a liar, saying that's just not true . . . . . . One of Ed's cherry-picked commenters -- who always strokes his ego -- tried telling Ed it's true NAFTA has it and Obama is trying to improve it. But, Ed kept saying I don't believe that is true.

I used to like him, but his emotional rants just get old. Tonight, his blustering -- "By God, I'll debate Obama, just get him on here . . . . ." -- and yelling was a bit much.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
6. Big Ed always fights for the workers.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:24 PM
Apr 2015

He had my web story and video on his show about Obama "putting on his walking shoes" years ago.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. I saw it and I saw nothing disrespectful.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:48 PM
Apr 2015

They were just calling it what it was, a weasel deal that needs a lot more explanation and facts presented.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
10. No, I did not. And MSNBC has quit showing his shows in repeats like they used to.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:52 PM
Apr 2015

I can only speak to this as being Big Ed's big issue since day one.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. If he was upset he would have ducked away for a phone call or a
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:11 PM
Apr 2015

vote on the floor. I watch Bernie every week on Thom Hartmann and that was a genuine, "I like what you are saying", grin. Ed and Bernie have been very close to the ground on this deal and they are not criticizing the President as much as they are trying to dissuade him from what seems to be some very bad advice that he's getting.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
15. Bernie and Ed are trapped in a 1947 world view. We don't make everything the world
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:25 PM
Apr 2015

needs. We make hardily anything we need, just look in Walmart or Dollar General. We are trying to get the world to buy our stuff.

They are telling us, "We no longer need your stuff" and quit bugging us about our way of doing things. That's what TPP is about.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
16. And if you had paid attention you would have heard Bernie
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:39 PM
Apr 2015

say that the Asian markets the President said we would be selling our goods to wouldn't be a reality. Instead the stuff being sold in China would be made in China. Whatever we still make here would be made in Asia instead once this deal goes through. We get nothing in the way of jobs or trade balance. I was alive in 1947 and we should try to get back there because things were better for the average working class family.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
19. Yes. We'd better. But you had better do it communally because
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:24 PM
Apr 2015

no bank today will help you and even if you succeed in being able to undercut the wholesale prices of the Asian imports, they will buy you out or make sure you go bankrupt. The laws are not in your favor and that is what Ed and Bernie are trying to fight back at.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
20. TPP is just a stopgap measure. My solution is lower SS age to 50 and since
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:42 PM
Apr 2015

technology is not going to create enough jobs we have to train people to learn to live without work and not kill eack other.

At 75 it's going to be a problem for others.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
21. You need people working at living wage jobs to get SS funds.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:57 PM
Apr 2015

I do agree that retirement at 55 is desirable.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
22. It may not be desirable but if your over 50 and don't know a smart phone from
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 12:10 AM
Apr 2015

the cloud, you are going into the dustbin and a safety net will be needed. Also money is just a concept and if it's needed it will be found. Just like it was found for 13 yrs of war.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
25. I look forward to a driverless car I can afford. I probably could if 1947 economic policies
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:58 AM
Apr 2015

would be in place today. I can't even afford a regular hybrid today and doubt very much if a driverless car is anything most of us can look forward to owning today. In 1947, my parents could look forward to the latest auto innovations.

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