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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 01:24 PM Apr 2015

“I don't really care,” Reid said, when asked about the GOP field. “I think they're all losers."

Senator Reid was asked WHO will lead GOP field:


Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) called the GOP presidential field “losers” and compared Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to a “lump of coal” in a Wednesday interview.

Reid said he wasn’t worried that Hillary Clinton doesn’t have a significant challenger in the Democratic primary.

“I am not a big fan of primaries,” he said. “I don't think they help, especially when you're someone as noted as Hillary.”

He was less kind to the Republican contenders.

"I don't really care," he said, when asked about the GOP field. "I think they're all losers."


http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/238882-reid-gop-field-a-bunch-of-losers

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“I don't really care,” Reid said, when asked about the GOP field. “I think they're all losers." (Original Post) kpete Apr 2015 OP
Good points. GusBob Apr 2015 #1
Very good points yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #3
The horrifically money soaked and politically distorted American primary election system is a monstrosity. Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #2
He is right of course Kalidurga Apr 2015 #4
The Republcian neo-cons have metamorphosed into neo-Nazis. olegramps Apr 2015 #18
This is why 97% of their base is white and it's leaning to more males than females. Kalidurga Apr 2015 #20
Thanks for your response. olegramps Apr 2015 #24
Who beat you up, Senator Reid? Enthusiast Apr 2015 #5
Nah, Senator Reid is Cha Apr 2015 #22
Glad he's speaking his mind. Sanity Claws Apr 2015 #6
I love his crusty old codger demeanor these days... CTyankee Apr 2015 #7
"Losers" is a kind, but pointedly apt description. hifiguy Apr 2015 #8
I have far more graphic terms to describe them. 47of74 Apr 2015 #16
Give em Hell, Harry! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #9
I'm just wild about Harry! HoosierRadical Apr 2015 #10
Too bad this Reid didn't step to the plate 8 years ago. 47of74 Apr 2015 #17
They are.. whadda ya goin' Cha Apr 2015 #23
Give 'em Hell, Harry! Gamecock Lefty Apr 2015 #11
True. 47of74 Apr 2015 #15
And yet, these losers seem to call the shots on Capitol Hill. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #12
Have they actually achieved anything for all of their loudmouthed bullshit? BlueStater Apr 2015 #13
Yes, they have. tazkcmo Apr 2015 #14
In other words Bartlet Apr 2015 #29
Harry is hot and cold. Some days I get frustrated with him. Other days he makes ya proud. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #19
“I am not a big fan of primaries,” Autumn Apr 2015 #21
It'll be our job in 2016 to prove him right. ffr Apr 2015 #25
Speaking truth to power... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #26
Ugh. bigwillq Apr 2015 #27
Ya know what scares me about that fact, Harry? Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #28
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. Very good points
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 01:49 PM
Apr 2015

Of course McConnel is worst of all. I am sure he will have some statement back at Senator Reid.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. The horrifically money soaked and politically distorted American primary election system is a monstrosity.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 01:35 PM
Apr 2015

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
18. The Republcian neo-cons have metamorphosed into neo-Nazis.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:06 PM
Apr 2015

They embrace every principle of the Nazis and I would challenge any Republican to deny this fact.

Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
5-28-3


Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
20. This is why 97% of their base is white and it's leaning to more males than females.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:49 PM
Apr 2015

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

They go nuts when politicians don't wear flag pins. They take it as a challenge I think instead of someone not wanting to put on a flag. IMO wearing a flag pin shows more style than substance.


2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc...

It goes much farther than this I think. They really do believe some people should die of illness or diseases that are easily treatable, but too expensive to treat if a person is poor, unemployed, or underemployed. They will call anyone without a job including the disabled useless feeders.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

This I think is the biggest deal breaker, why I have a problem with most conservatives. Sure they can seem nice and be charming, but the next thing you know they are talking about building a wall on the border...awkward.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Yes, bombs not bread or books.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

Except in the case of our fundies and tea party types they just want the government to take money and spend it on war, but none on social programs not even for the elderly or disabled and definitely not for single mothers or fathers who need help.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

I don't think they are quite there yet. But, corporations are.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

I don't think they really want national security. If they really wanted this they would insist on our troops being stationed in the US instead of in 150 countries or more. What they really want is the United States to impose it's will on the entire world and to make it safe for corporations to exploit the people and resources of other countries.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

I think this phase is complete or at least as complete as it can be in this country.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Yes, totally and they want more. If they could get away with it workers would be sleeping in barracks and in three bed bunks. They would get a couple bowls of rice or noodles and an ounce of meat.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

Right to Work laws mission almost completely accomplished.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

Fasten your seatbelts they are trying. A teacher was arrested for writing a novel about terrorism. I forget the deets on that one though.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

One of many reasons to declare the war on drugs over to declare stop and frisk or whatever the euphemism they use, illegal.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Yes, like how they take the resources of Indian tribes that are supposed to be in a government trust and the funds are supposed to go back to the tribes.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

They are trying. Sometimes succeeding. If it wasn't for those pesky poll watchers they would get away with it.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
24. Thanks for your response.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:09 AM
Apr 2015

I really fear that there isn't anyone running for office that will actually challenge the Republicans with these charges. Nor do I think that the majority of the citizens are fully aware of just how serious the situation has become. I can only suppose that the ship will right itself in time, however, in the meantime millions will suffer.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
7. I love his crusty old codger demeanor these days...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:44 PM
Apr 2015

and he doesn't seem to care what anybody thinks...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. "Losers" is a kind, but pointedly apt description.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:46 PM
Apr 2015

"Lunatics" would be a bit more accurate in the dictionary sense.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
16. I have far more graphic terms to describe them.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 05:07 AM
Apr 2015

Terms that reference their parentage, reproductive proclivities, how much of their bodies are composed of fecal material, and ultimate destination.

HoosierRadical

(390 posts)
10. I'm just wild about Harry!
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:03 PM
Apr 2015

"I don't really care," he said, when asked about the GOP field. "I think they're all losers."


BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
13. Have they actually achieved anything for all of their loudmouthed bullshit?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 04:52 PM
Apr 2015

Then Reid is absolutely right about them being losers.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
14. Yes, they have.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 08:50 PM
Apr 2015

They shut down our government, prolonged the recession and have prevented progress on a number of legislative fronts.

Bartlet

(172 posts)
29. In other words
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 06:04 PM
Apr 2015

they haven't actually achieved anything since all you listed where things they did out of failure to do anything substantive.

Autumn

(45,042 posts)
21. “I am not a big fan of primaries,”
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:57 PM
Apr 2015
I know of another loser, all he needs to do is look in a mirror.

ffr

(22,668 posts)
25. It'll be our job in 2016 to prove him right.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:41 AM
Apr 2015
He was less kind to the Republican contenders.

"I don't really care," he said, when asked about the GOP field. "I think they're all losers."


Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
28. Ya know what scares me about that fact, Harry?
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

Dubya was a loser too.

"Loser" is not an exclusionary condition for winning elections.

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