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Sun May 6, 2012, 11:27 AM

Discouraging, I know

Looking at the world's situation with open and honest vision is heartbreaking.

Teetering in Japan is a nuclear bomb that has the potential of making millions of square miles poisoned for centuries. It is, this Spent Fuel Pool #4, a metaphor in a way of the situation of nearly all of our complicated modern society.

Propped up, just as the economy as a whole is, it is a veritable house of cards sold to us by the "Don't worry, we know what we are doing" crowd.

The collapsing economy and this spent fuel pool are two examples of the lies told in the chase by our leaders to see who can "die with the most toys".

But it is warm out, flowers are blooming and so far, the air is safe. So there is hope, eh?

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Reply Discouraging, I know (Original post)
RobertEarl May 2012 OP
malaise May 2012 #1
Zax2me May 2012 #2
LASlibinSC May 2012 #3
RobertEarl May 2012 #4
LASlibinSC May 2012 #10
RobertEarl May 2012 #12
LASlibinSC May 2012 #13
Logical May 2012 #5
RobertEarl May 2012 #6
Logical May 2012 #7
RobertEarl May 2012 #8
RobertEarl May 2012 #9
Mnemosyne May 2012 #11

Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2012, 11:31 AM

1. The worst part of the crisis in Japan is the silence

on the subject. When will we - the citizens of this planet demand accountability and punishment for these criminal scumbags who care about nothing but profit.

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Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2012, 11:53 AM

2. Japan situation is now a coverup.

 

We never hear anything.
Positive or negative.

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Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2012, 12:01 PM

3. Denial, there I said it.

I live to close(40-50mi) to a nuclear plant to want to know. Because it scares the hell out of me. Let the howling begin.

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Response to LASlibinSC (Reply #3)

Sun May 6, 2012, 12:18 PM

4. That's what bums me out the most

And do not take this personal.

Human denial or not even wanting to know due to being cowardly or too busy chasing the toys, is what is the most disheartening.

Looking upon the stray cat who has wandered into place here, and knowing it does not know anything about the fuel pool or the economy of the world, but only knowing that it has food and shelter, for now, and is therefore happy, makes me think most humans are no better.

Which is a shock, because i always thought that we better.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #4)

Sun May 6, 2012, 01:29 PM

10. I accept your comments in the spirit they were given.

Fear is very powerful, and I guess cowardice is too. However, I never said I was happy. I guess I'm scared, frustrated by the fact that I am just now trying to educate myself on the process of nuclear power plants. I don't think I can sway my neighbors opinions with out admiting that I was in the same boat at one time. To me it's all about the learning curve. Thank you for the thread and the link!

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Response to LASlibinSC (Reply #10)

Sun May 6, 2012, 02:02 PM

12. We were all unaware at one time

Asking myself why i keep on about this, the answer comes to me...

There are things we as a society can do, and things our government can do, to prepare.

The EPA has a link about cesium which seems to be the most possible radiation if the pool were to drop. In this link is some info about how it can be detected. It takes special diagnostic equipment that is, at present, scarce. EPA Link:

http://epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/cesium.html#environment

If we all become aware of the problem we may just be able to do something about it. Like make diagnostic centers available for everyone.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #12)

Sun May 6, 2012, 02:20 PM

13. This link looks great.

thank you! I'll enjoy going over it after I get dinner in the oven. Its helpful when people rec material. I realize that it takes time and thought, so I THANK YOU

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Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2012, 12:24 PM

5. This PANIC about Pool # 4 is not valid! potential = Facts to some people. Please...

provide any proof this is even CLOSE to happening. Real proof!!! Scientific proof. From real scientists!

Why do people love psudo-science? I guess it is more exciting than the truth!

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Response to Logical (Reply #5)

Sun May 6, 2012, 12:31 PM

6. Panic?

Not panic just real concern.

Just because you have not seen the evidence does not mean it doesn't exist. If you really cared you would know. And you'd would show proof that there is no concern.

I could lead you to water, but I can't make you drink, so why waste my time?

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #6)

Sun May 6, 2012, 12:34 PM

7. Most people posting "waste of my time" mean "I have no facts"...Post ANY scientific......

information showing this is even remotely possible of happening.

I and others will be waiting.

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Response to Logical (Reply #7)

Sun May 6, 2012, 12:39 PM

8. Ok

Is what Senator Wyden of Washington thinks after visiting Fukushima going to be enough for you to think that something is up, and will be coming down? Link:
http://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/after-tour-of-fukushima-nuclear-power-station-wyden-says-situation-worse-than-reported

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Response to Logical (Reply #7)

Sun May 6, 2012, 12:43 PM

9. Here is a DU post about the matter

http://www.democraticunderground.com/112712303

Yes, it is my OP. In the E&E group.

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Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2012, 01:42 PM

11. ...

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