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George Cauldron

(14 posts)
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:23 PM May 2012

Right-wing city council ends transit program for poor and disabled purely on ideological grounds

This popped up in the local news this week and isn't getting enough coverage. I want as many people as possible to know about it. The douchebaggery seeping out of this makes me ill. I guess it's what I get for not voting in local elections.

http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/bay_area/news/lc-s-andy-mann-if-you-need-help-getting-around/article_be2517d9-e394-52cf-bb13-9c092ab798ac.html

LC's Andy Mann: If you need help getting around, move to Galveston

League City Councilman Mick Phalen said he plans to ask the council to reconsider a vote to discontinue subsidized door-to-door service for low-income or disabled residents that transports them to and from jobs, medical appointments and other places they need to go.

The program, provided through grant money acquired by the Gulf Coast Center, has been operating for several years at no cost to the city, but after Aug. 31, federal grant funds to continue the program, which provides about 800 trips a year for League City residents, will depend on a local match of $8,500 per year, or $27,013 for three years, said Gulf Coast Center consultant Gary Goodman of The Goodman Corp.

Many of the people who use the program, who will pay about $12 per trip, are disabled and need help getting to work or to clinics for medical services, Goodman said.

Phalen said Friday that he’s disgusted by fellow Councilman Andy Mann’s comments during Tuesday’s city council meeting, when officials voted 6-1 against continuing the service.

“I don’t get this,” Mann said at the meeting. “There was a period in my life where I was broke, and I didn’t have gas for my car, and I walked.

“I guess I’m coming off as a heartless Republican, but this sounds like something that the churches and community services organizations like the United Way would address.”

Mann said “League City does not want to become some sort of entitlement community,” adding that the city should encourage self-reliance and suggesting that people who require public services move to Galveston, “because that community has already made the choice - ‘We want to build public housing. We want people to have free rides everywhere.’”

“America gives us all choices of where we can live,” Mann said. “How do we build a community that is self-reliant, understanding that we’re part of a bigger network? How do we instill self-reliance so that this thing goes on to the next generation and it’s a place where they can come back to. It just reminds me so much of my hometown, Port Arthur. And I can’t go home. I can’t raise my kids back there.”

After the Galveston County Daily News interviewed a dialysis patient who said he needs the transportation service to get medical care, Mann posted on his Facebook page Thursday night: “I called Mr. Prior and told him my son would be glad to drive him to his appointment. He didn't pick up so I am attempting to get an address so I can stop by.”
‘Mistake’

Phalen said that although he also voted against continuing the service, he now feels his vote was a mistake and he does not agree with Mann’s comments. “I would call them embarrassing,” he said. “We can philosophically talk about role of government, but phrasing it in that context....it was embarrassing for League City.”

Phalen said he does believe that a door-to-door transportation service would be better suited to a nonprofit organization or church, and said he’ll ask the council to consider providing the public match with the understanding that officials will explore ways to transition to burden to charitable organizations.

Councilman Dan Becker said during Tuesday’s meeting that he disagrees with taking federal funds for programs that he philosophically does not agree with, adding that until cities start standing up to the federal government, “the system is never going to get fixed.”

Councilman Dennis O’Keefe said that while “I have great compassion for people who are not as fortunate as we are,” he feels the need for transportation will be met by a park and ride service that was approved at Tuesday’s council meeting, providing service between UTMB facilities in League City and Galveston. “I believe we have an adequate substitute at this time.”

With Tuesday’s lone vote in favor of the transit service, Councilwoman Joanna Dawson said Friday that she feels the service is beneficial for League City residents, including veterans and families caring for relatives while trying to hold down a job.

“I feel a deep empathy for working families in League City who have to transport an aging parent,” Dawson said, noting that it’s often not possible for a working adult to take time off for a relative’s medical appointments. Often, the relative winds up in assisted living instead, she said.

“I think we need to help them, and I think the price was good,” Dawson said.

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One thing this article failed to mention (but you can find in the other local article about it) is that a federal grant would have provided $200,000 if the city put up the $8,500. That's right, the feds would have paid 96% of the damn thing. They've been paying 100% for the past several years, and wanted a little from the city this year. But no, that's not going to work when, like Mann said, the elderly, poor, and disabled can just walk the thirty miles to Galveston.

It is possible to be a bigger p.o.s. than this? I'd expect comments like Mann's from the Legion of Doom, not my local city council.

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Right-wing city council ends transit program for poor and disabled purely on ideological grounds (Original Post) George Cauldron May 2012 OP
disgusting. just disgusting. cali May 2012 #1
Becker is just as much an unfeeling nutbag as Mann. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #2
very christiany of him elehhhhna May 2012 #7
It is in the water all over nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #3
Really- won't pay 8500 of local tax dollars to receive 200,000 of other tax payers $s. salin May 2012 #4
Here is your Mr. Mann CurtEastPoint May 2012 #5
You are one asshat douche bag Mann. Your time will come...soon! crunch60 May 2012 #9
Tragic. LASlibinSC May 2012 #6
May this fucker get his spinal cord broken. Asshole! Odin2005 May 2012 #8
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? Please Mr. Mann, could I have another cup o gruel? OffWithTheirHeads May 2012 #10
Truly hateful. I hope his son rebels at being assigned a dialysis patient 3x/week, 4 hours a pop riderinthestorm May 2012 #11
I suppose voting these nitwits out is just too much to ask? gratuitous May 2012 #12
What these vans should do Politicalboi May 2012 #20
A county just south of here had to close their county health care clinic proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #13
we need to stop thinking of republicans as human Doctor_J May 2012 #14
Broken clock. He was right twice. saras May 2012 #15
They will be very vulnerable to a ADA lawsuit JPZenger May 2012 #16
Good to know it's not just me sickened by this George Cauldron May 2012 #17
here is his facebook page dana_b May 2012 #18
This is what I posted on his facebook page: Manifestor_of_Light May 2012 #23
League City ananda May 2012 #19
Anyone who would vote to hurt the most vulnerable among us... Leftist Agitator May 2012 #21
+100,000!!! I'm long out of patience. Zalatix May 2012 #22
Good Christians all. (((SARCASM))) Manifestor_of_Light May 2012 #24

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
2. Becker is just as much an unfeeling nutbag as Mann.
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:31 PM
May 2012
Councilman Dan Becker said during Tuesday’s meeting that he disagrees with taking federal funds for programs that he philosophically does not agree with, adding that until cities start standing up to the federal government, “the system is never going to get fixed.”


How in the hell could you be philosophically opposed to poor and disabled people getting a ride to work?
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. It is in the water all over
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:32 PM
May 2012

and the problem is that it will pass, but people will actually die when we finally see the end of this idiocy.

And it is things like this that will lead to the end of this crap.

salin

(48,955 posts)
4. Really- won't pay 8500 of local tax dollars to receive 200,000 of other tax payers $s.
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:36 PM
May 2012

Disgusting. Clearly in this community there is NO sense of community and no empathy for those in need.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
9. You are one asshat douche bag Mann. Your time will come...soon!
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:08 PM
May 2012

tx for posting his mugshot, so we all know who he is now.

LASlibinSC

(269 posts)
6. Tragic.
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:58 PM
May 2012

I'm gobsmacked. These asshats are especially hateful in smaller cities and towns, big fish in small ponds shit. I was like you. I thought well these people live here too, they want the best for the town. Wrong I started hearing words like entitled, dependent federal handout. Local politics matter, thats where these bastards cut their teeth. Don't let them go unchallenged.!

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
10. Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? Please Mr. Mann, could I have another cup o gruel?
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:12 PM
May 2012

It's really too bad a Hell does not exist for these people to rot in.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
11. Truly hateful. I hope his son rebels at being assigned a dialysis patient 3x/week, 4 hours a pop
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:12 PM
May 2012

for interminable number of years.

Now multiply that times the 800 other people who are using this system that these fuckers need to provide transport for every year.

Simply disgusting. The feds would be providing 96% of the funding (the town vetoed the entire thing because they'd have to provide for a measly 4%).

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. I suppose voting these nitwits out is just too much to ask?
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:13 PM
May 2012

Because after all, the residents doubtless are all life-long Republicans, and golly, who else could they possibly vote for if not these fine gentlemen?

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
20. What these vans should do
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:41 AM
May 2012

Is put up a sign in the van or on the van or both that says "Your government pays 96% of this ride". Let these "No Government" assholes have to be seen in a commie van. It may wake some of them up as to who is really looking out for them.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
13. A county just south of here had to close their county health care clinic
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:14 PM
May 2012

because the right wing asshats on the county commission refused to accept federal money to run the clinic.

So the kids in the county have no more access to affordable vaccines. And of course, women have no more affordable health care.

I despise these people. They're ruining our country, one community at a time.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. we need to stop thinking of republicans as human
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:23 PM
May 2012

they're not - they're rabid, demented animals - a cancer badly in need of radical treatment. It disgusts me that the president I worked and voted for treats them better than he does decent people.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
15. Broken clock. He was right twice.
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:24 PM
May 2012
I guess I’m coming off as a heartless Republican

Correct.

Many of the people who use the program, who will pay about $12 per trip, are disabled and need help getting to work or to clinics for medical services

“I don’t get this,” Mann said

Correct.

"suggesting that people who require public services move to Galveston"

Accident at work? Getting old? Car die? Get the fuck out of town.

We want people to have free rides everywhere.

If that's the only way to move towards getting rid of the automobile, so be it. Sounds good to me.

George Cauldron

(14 posts)
17. Good to know it's not just me sickened by this
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:33 PM
May 2012

According to his profile on the city website, Mann is a member of the Big Brothers of Galveston County. I can only imagine the sort of wisdom he imparts upon impressionable young kids.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
23. This is what I posted on his facebook page:
Sun May 6, 2012, 02:08 AM
May 2012

So is your son going to drive the 800 other people who need these services to their appointments, jobs, etc. as well??? The federal government covers 96% of the cost of these vital services to citizens and your town is TOO CHEAP to provide a measly $8,500.00?

i'm a native texan and I cannot believe these recta.

Nobody represents me any more in any governmental office.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
19. League City
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:48 PM
May 2012

Also a proud home of the KKK.

In 1992 David Duke came there to speak during his campaign for the presidency.

I joined a group of protesters there, carrying a sign that said: Hitler 1932 Duke 1992.

 

Leftist Agitator

(2,759 posts)
21. Anyone who would vote to hurt the most vulnerable among us...
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:55 AM
May 2012

Has forfeit their rights as a fellow human being. Interpret that as you will, because if I post how I feel, I'll very shortly after be gone from DU.

Suffice it to say that I'm rapidly losing my patience with these fuckers.

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