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rdking647

(5,113 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:49 PM Mar 2015

arkansas passes anti gay law like indiana

heres some companies headquartered in arkansas. just for information purposes.....

walmart
murphy oil
Mountain valley spring water
Riceland foods
ranger boats
tyson foods
Sams club
dillards dept store

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arkansas passes anti gay law like indiana (Original Post) rdking647 Mar 2015 OP
It is really time to take this to the courts still_one Mar 2015 #1
I think that is the point of these laws salin Mar 2015 #5
As bad as the SC is, they are not going to legalize discrimination still_one Mar 2015 #32
we can hope... but those with the strategy of pushing this legislation (ala THIS wording) salin Mar 2015 #33
If they allowed this it would be a direct violation of the civil right act still_one Mar 2015 #34
was it signed already? marym625 Mar 2015 #2
Nope. OP jumped the gun. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #11
Thank you marym625 Mar 2015 #18
No, but Gov. Hutchinson has said he'll sign it. Arkansas Granny Mar 2015 #15
sigh marym625 Mar 2015 #16
He left himself an out. We'll see if he takes it. jeff47 Mar 2015 #20
And the bible bigots & sinful haters called The Duggers misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #3
There are more Religious Freedom bills set to pass.... Avalux Mar 2015 #4
Think they are trying to get enough States to Amend the Constitution misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #7
Here's the list... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #8
what is the noise/news per reactions salin Mar 2015 #6
The governor is talking about a compromise herding cats Mar 2015 #10
that is something... am glad that the backlash up here (and the now very public proposed salin Mar 2015 #13
Thanks for the info. I hadn't heard that. Arkansas Granny Mar 2015 #19
Time to find out what the "big guys" think about this, now that the disavowal has taken on a life of libdem4life Mar 2015 #9
We need to find out who is writing, JEB Mar 2015 #12
bet its Alec or the dude from Kansas who wrote the self-deportation immigration laws for salin Mar 2015 #14
Nah, ALEC is about money. This hurts money. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #21
Are they blind, can they not see the shitstorm this caused Indiana? NightWatcher Mar 2015 #17
Arkansas just received approval for a Bowl Game. bvar22 Mar 2015 #22
chip chip chip. first take away business rights....consult 1933 history for details nt msongs Mar 2015 #23
Scum Repukes here in Nevada are considering a similar one... joeybee12 Mar 2015 #24
add in Acxiom LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #25
If any of you think this is bad, imagine the next SC appointment being made by a con. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #26
Yep, that is most concerning. Damn, is an exodus from the US next. If that happens, this RKP5637 Mar 2015 #30
A mass threatened boycott of Wal-Mart will do wonders, I'm guessing. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #27
i buy riceland rice Takket Mar 2015 #28
Interesting what the Walton's response will be. diabeticman Mar 2015 #29
makes watching the GOP clown car so much fun beachbum bob Mar 2015 #31
about the list niyad Mar 2015 #35
Walmart has asked the Gov not to sign it. Cha Mar 2015 #36
this is easy gollygee Mar 2015 #37

salin

(48,954 posts)
5. I think that is the point of these laws
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:59 PM
Mar 2015

get in front of the same court that ruled on the Hobby Lobby case (SCOTUS)

salin

(48,954 posts)
33. we can hope... but those with the strategy of pushing this legislation (ala THIS wording)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:53 PM
Mar 2015

hope differently.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
20. He left himself an out. We'll see if he takes it.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:34 PM
Mar 2015

He said he'd sign it if it was like the laws passed in 13 other states. It technically isn't like those laws - the other state laws only apply to government, not between businesses and customers.

He probably won't take that escape route, but it is there.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
3. And the bible bigots & sinful haters called The Duggers
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:56 PM
Mar 2015

This must be how the Religious Wars got their start.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. There are more Religious Freedom bills set to pass....
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:57 PM
Mar 2015

I see this as a concerted effort by Republican-controlled states to overwhelm us. They probably figure if enough states do it, those who oppose can't possibly stay on top of the issue enough to be effective in repealing them.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
7. Think they are trying to get enough States to Amend the Constitution
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:01 PM
Mar 2015

Or hoping to get it to the Supreme Court. They are counting on their GOP SC judges to rule in their favor.
This is personal & dead serious.

herding cats

(19,549 posts)
10. The governor is talking about a compromise
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:07 PM
Mar 2015
Could a compromise be brewing on HB 1228, the so-called "religious conscience" bill that opponents argue would offer additional legal protection for discrimination against gay people? The following is what we can report based on multiple sources at the Capitol speaking on background:

Gov. Asa Hutchinson appears to be looking for a way out of the current controversy. Particularly with the increasing volume of media coverage and corporate backlash around the similar law in Indiana, the governor has real concerns about the law's impact on economic development, sources say.

In separate meetings this morning, the governor and his chief of staff, Michael Lamoureux, met with two backers of the bill — Sen. Bart Hester and Rep. Bob Ballinger — and two opponents of the bill — Rep. Warwick Sabin and Sen. Joyce Elliott.

The governor is potentially interested in the concept, also floated by Gov. Mike Pence in Indiana, of adding a "clarification" amendment to the bill that would expressly state that the law does not authorize discrimination or make it lawful to discriminate. The amendment would expressly list various categories — race, religion, old age, etc. — and would include sexual orientation and gender identity.

Given that Ballinger and the bill's proponents have said over and over that the bill is not intended to protect discrimination — indeed, he claims it's only about preventing discrimination — this would appear to be a change in line with their stated purpose, but sources say they are still resistant to such an amendment (Ballinger rejected the idea yesterday in committee and thus far today has given every indication that he plans to proceed with the bill as is). Hutchinson is reportedly making the pitch around the effort to recruit business to the state, but it's unclear at this stage whether the governor's muscle can push a compromise through.

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2015/03/31/governor-exploring-possibility-of-compromise-on-hb1228



***UPDATE: One note that might be buried in the liveblog: it's possible that the lawmakers may still try to cut a deal with the governor around anti-discrimination provisions even if HB 1228 passes today. If so, they would do it via a separate bill rather than an amendment. Of course, that means getting a bunch of GOPs to vote for legislation codifying anti-discrimination rules, including for LGBT folks. So…we'll see.



http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2015/03/31/hb-1228-on-house-agenda-this-afternoon

salin

(48,954 posts)
13. that is something... am glad that the backlash up here (and the now very public proposed
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:23 PM
Mar 2015

types of fixes) are having an impact down there.

It is hard for the fix not to include protection from discrimination given that is how this has been framed by proponents. Take note of how "offended" Gov. Pence said he was that it had been characterized that way!

Which seems to take the intended purpose out of the law.

Wonder how that will effect efforts in the other teaparty states who have rushed the Alec law through their respective legislatures.

Please keep us posted!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
9. Time to find out what the "big guys" think about this, now that the disavowal has taken on a life of
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:06 PM
Mar 2015

its own. Who'd have known. Jim Crow has morphed into Mike Pence. Don't think it's going away anytime soon, hopefully anyway.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
12. We need to find out who is writing,
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:12 PM
Mar 2015

promoting and pushing these hideous laws and come down on them like a ton of bricks.

salin

(48,954 posts)
14. bet its Alec or the dude from Kansas who wrote the self-deportation immigration laws for
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:24 PM
Mar 2015

numerous states.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
24. Scum Repukes here in Nevada are considering a similar one...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:06 PM
Mar 2015

They're getting grief already and from what I hear, may drop the whole thing quietly.

RKP5637

(67,032 posts)
30. Yep, that is most concerning. Damn, is an exodus from the US next. If that happens, this
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:58 PM
Mar 2015

place is going to be one hotbed of wars and all types of stuff. The US was about freedom and equality, but now is the time to take the United out of United states and just call it Divided States, or possibly US = United Stupidity.

What they are doing is building the foundation for a theocracy. Damn, but I despise religion, it is the great divider of mankind having caused tremendous deaths, persecution and division.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
27. A mass threatened boycott of Wal-Mart will do wonders, I'm guessing.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:22 PM
Mar 2015

These cretins don't give a shit about human rights, but they care deeply about their wallets.

Takket

(21,425 posts)
28. i buy riceland rice
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

not anymore. if the gov signs this I will find another brand and make sure Riceland knows why I'm leaving
no more Tyson either

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
31. makes watching the GOP clown car so much fun
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:04 PM
Mar 2015

..........no hiding their intent and the backlash is awesome. When NASCAR speaks out against the law signed in Indiana, you know conservative world is in trouble

niyad

(112,435 posts)
35. about the list
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:34 PM
Mar 2015

walmart (been boycotting for nearly 20 years)

murphy oil

Mountain valley spring water (not silly enough to buy bottled water)

Riceland foods (now on my list)

ranger boats (don't have, would never buy, a boat)


tyson foods (been boycotting for years


Sams club (see number 1)

dillards dept store (new to my list since it is a member of arawc)

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
37. this is easy
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:44 PM
Mar 2015

I don't use any of that stuff or shop at those places anyway.

I have heard rumbling that we might end up with a similar law here in Michigan If that happens, I can't avoid everything in my own state, but hopefully I'll find out which companies here support it and which don't.

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