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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 11:47 AM Mar 2015

So -- what if YOU could legally discriminate based on your religion

Inspired by this thread from TheMasterNemesis: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026432137

Indiana and Arkansas have passed religious freedom laws allowing businesses to discriminate based on the religious beliefs of the owners. Obviously, this is aimed at businesses that don't want to make cakes with same-sex couple cake toppers. I'm further supposing that this doesn't bode well for women in hijab's or women seeking birth control pills through the health insurance of a Catholic owned business. The implications are horrifying.

...but that doesn't mean that we can't or shouldn't have some fun with this law

There are a LOT of faiths out there, and as TheMasterNemesis correctly points out, anyone with a few bucks can get a divinity degree or a ministerial certification. Suppose a business is owned by those who worship Ra? Suppose a business is owned by Rastafarians? Druids? Wiccans? What could you do with a faith and a license to discriminate?

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So -- what if YOU could legally discriminate based on your religion (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 OP
My religious belief dictates that... It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #1
"All anti-women misogynists wear the ugliest dress down to the stilettos" KamaAina Mar 2015 #28
if I am a member of the Church of Cognitive Dissonance guillaumeb Mar 2015 #2
All people who tell me to have a blessed day- pays double. notadmblnd Mar 2015 #3
and Praise The Lord chanters. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #6
It's kinda insulting actually notadmblnd Mar 2015 #23
+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #26
Do I have to wait on a law that says any company that mentions god csziggy Mar 2015 #21
No, but I bet you tolerate it more than you think you do- besides it is easy to boycott those that notadmblnd Mar 2015 #22
Let's see what happen when a store owner refuses to provide service to a woman awake Mar 2015 #4
Lord Haathar The Corpulent forbids DirkGently Mar 2015 #5
You clearly understand the spirit of the new law. Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #15
I have the religious right to stone to death Confederate Flag-wearing dumbasses. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #7
Get someone with a really good CNC Router Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #16
No Children under 10 in the main part of my restaurant (I don't have one.) BlueJazz Mar 2015 #8
I wouldn't open a business. I'm not a fan of people, so I'd pretty much find something ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #9
This is merely a joke Cirque du So-What Mar 2015 #10
People forget that discrimination against Catholics by Protestants was commonplace 100 years ago Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #14
Your post assumes it's only Christians that will be doing the discriminating B2G Mar 2015 #11
I think the law assumes that Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #13
Nods - I think that Pence wouldn't mind if people also discriminated against Muslims el_bryanto Mar 2015 #24
I guess us atheists should thank dog that nobody can tell by looking. MindPilot Mar 2015 #12
+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #27
Church of Saint Claude: Patron Saint of the Fearful Purrfessor Mar 2015 #17
I would insist that all be blessed by His Noodly Appendage in that I would toss Cup O Noodles.... Hekate Mar 2015 #18
I declare backwards day in Indiana Generic Other Mar 2015 #19
I don't have a religion, just a low tolerance for stupidity and willful ignorance.... Ghost in the Machine Mar 2015 #20
... Zorra Mar 2015 #25
I suddenly have this unexplainable urge to drink a Coke Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #30
The Religion of the Almighty Dollar HockeyMom Mar 2015 #29
You have boiled down the stupidity of discrimination Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #31
 

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)
1. My religious belief dictates that...
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 11:52 AM
Mar 2015

All anti-gay bigots wear a clown outfit, with a big orange sign that says "I AM A HONKING BIGOT".

All anti-women misogynists wear the ugliest dress down to the stilettos

All racist people wear red or blue down to the T's with some sports emblem on it. Preferably Dodgers or Bulls. Those that don't like Latinos must wear somberos and heavy blankets.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
28. "All anti-women misogynists wear the ugliest dress down to the stilettos"
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:06 PM
Mar 2015

Even the men?

WEelcome to DU!

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
6. and Praise The Lord chanters.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:10 PM
Mar 2015

I worked with a lady like that.
Every other sentence ended with praise the lord
She should indeed pay double.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
23. It's kinda insulting actually
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 11:55 AM
Mar 2015

Not necessarily to me but to the person(s) who actually did the deed the religious nut is praising the lord for.

I recently had a narrow escape with death. I didn't thank god for saving my life nor did I praise Jesus. It was the team of Drs. that did their jobs extremely well that saved my life.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
21. Do I have to wait on a law that says any company that mentions god
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:22 AM
Mar 2015

In their phone messages or on their web sites does NOT get my business? Those that also put a mention of god on their signs or trucks get my contempt. And if they have Faux Noise on their TV, I turn around and walk out.

But should I have waited for a law to be passed before being discriminating about those things?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
22. No, but I bet you tolerate it more than you think you do- besides it is easy to boycott those that
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 11:51 AM
Mar 2015

are up front about it.

The "have a blessed day" bothers me particularly because it is usually said at the end of a transaction in stead of a simple "thank you for your business" or just a plain "thank you" and it's usually not the business owner but some clerk is imposing their belief in blessings on me.



awake

(3,226 posts)
4. Let's see what happen when a store owner refuses to provide service to a woman
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:00 PM
Mar 2015

Based on His religious beliefs.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
5. Lord Haathar The Corpulent forbids
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:09 PM
Mar 2015

- Selling fishing tackle in excess of 3 oz. to guys named "Jimbo"

- Serving popcorn shrimp or any "popcorn" food to Baptists in hats

- Bowling while Scotch-Irish

- The performance of country music during daylight hours

- Flan

And that's just from Lord Haathar's First Book of Abominations. There's a whole volume on forbidden flatware, and seventeen granite tablets describing the various forbidden T-shirt designs.

His Great Corpulence (May he be ever full of carbs) welcomes this new era of religious freedom.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
15. You clearly understand the spirit of the new law.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:32 AM
Mar 2015

His Great Corpulence needs, like Groucho Marx, not to belong to any club that would admit people like him as a member.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
7. I have the religious right to stone to death Confederate Flag-wearing dumbasses.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:14 PM
Mar 2015

It says so in my Bible, which I wrote myself.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
16. Get someone with a really good CNC Router
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:38 AM
Mar 2015

Re-create the carving on the side of Stone Mountain in a large pice of wood or Styrofoam, but change it to include Grant, Sherman, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, and G.H. Thomas, and replace the Confederate flags with American flags. When anyone wearing a rebel flag comes in, point to the reimagined Stone Mountain, and explain that, to you, the Confederate flag just represents idocy and failure.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
8. No Children under 10 in the main part of my restaurant (I don't have one.)
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:30 PM
Mar 2015

There would be a separate section for them in a closed part of the establishment though.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
9. I wouldn't open a business. I'm not a fan of people, so I'd pretty much find something
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:31 PM
Mar 2015

to discriminate against you for...

Seriously though, I can't even wrap my head around entering into the customer service industry.

Cirque du So-What

(25,932 posts)
10. This is merely a joke
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:18 PM
Mar 2015

but I believe it contains a seed of truth when it comes to future turmoil:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well, are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are your Christian or Buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, Me too! Are your Episcopalian or Baptist? He said, "Baptist!" I said, "Wow! Me too! Are your Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord? He said, Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are your Original Baptist Church of God or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum!" and pushed him off.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
14. People forget that discrimination against Catholics by Protestants was commonplace 100 years ago
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:27 AM
Mar 2015

So I see the seed of truth in your post.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
11. Your post assumes it's only Christians that will be doing the discriminating
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:22 PM
Mar 2015

Last time I checked, Islam wasn't too thrilled with gays, alcohol consumption or guide dogs in their cabs.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
13. I think the law assumes that
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:25 AM
Mar 2015

I think that Muslims and other non Judeo-Christian faiths engaging in discriminatory practices was not what they had in mind when they wrote the law.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
24. Nods - I think that Pence wouldn't mind if people also discriminated against Muslims
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:00 PM
Mar 2015

on religious terms.

Bryant

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
12. I guess us atheists should thank dog that nobody can tell by looking.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:27 PM
Mar 2015

ETA: If I were to have a business, I certainly would not discriminate. See, this is where being an atheist with absolutely no moral compass or the spiritual capacity to know right from wrong is an advantage; I don't care who or what you are, I'll gladly take your money.

Purrfessor

(1,188 posts)
17. Church of Saint Claude: Patron Saint of the Fearful
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:46 AM
Mar 2015

It is hereby decreed that all members of the Church of Saint Claude shall be free to abstain from appearing in any government mandated photographs that one so chooses

Therefore, due to my religious beliefs I am exempted from photo ID requirements for any official purpose that I alone have the freedom to choose, including that of voting.

Hekate

(90,662 posts)
18. I would insist that all be blessed by His Noodly Appendage in that I would toss Cup O Noodles....
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:48 AM
Mar 2015

....at everyone who told me to have a blessed day. And all would shout Ramen!

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
20. I don't have a religion, just a low tolerance for stupidity and willful ignorance....
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:03 AM
Mar 2015

I guess I could have a restaurant with a water hose by the drive thru window and just turn it on and squirt the dumbasses who who come through the drive thru and order their food, then say "to go" at the end of it

Peace,

Ghost

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
31. You have boiled down the stupidity of discrimination
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:47 PM
Mar 2015

I don't care about the color of your skin; I care about the color of your money.

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