Is the TPP the locked cockpit door?

[annabanana]

Those who say there's nothing to the uproar site as an example.. "Suppose an American company opens up in a foreign country and that country subsequently decides to nationalize it.. do we want that company to have to adhere to the laws of that foreign country?"

This is a one-way perspective. It all sounds wonderful to American companies as long as we're on that particvular end of the equation. And it's only one (the most extreme) example.

[Maedhros]

1. Yes, I do want American companies to adhere to the laws of foreign nations.[n/t]

[Hoyt]

2. Well, at least you accept that side of the coin. Now, how's about

we want German, Japanese, Korean, Italian, etc., auto makers to invest here. Are they as likely to do that if Texas or Alabama can screw their investment by favoring USA auto companies under trade laws? How about the big bucks China has invested here?

I think these tribunal are an important part of international trade to ensure each country's companies are treated fairly under international law. It doesn't affect most of our criminal, social, interstate, civil rights, etc., laws.

Is it possible the process might need to be adjusted at some point? Sure. But it is crazy to drop out of international trade agreements simply because they have dispute settlement mechanisms that have the same provisions in several thousands of international agreements negotiated in the past few decades.

[Renew Deal]

3. Using the murder of 150 people people to make a political point is not right.

[Blue_Tires]

9. +1

[GoneFishin]

4. The TPP is a fucking disasterous joke on working Americans and will send more jobs overseas,

and lower wages, food, safety and environmental standards in this country.

There is no excuse for supporting this piece of shit agreement in any capacity unless you outright hate the American middle class and the right of communities to govern themselves.

If working Americans had been given a fair shake over the last 30 years, had sufficient jobs to feed themselves, house themselves, and educate themselves without burying themselves in crushing debt then I might have some concern over the fictional corporations that played a positive role in keeping that fictional economy healthy and working for America.

But the middle class is disappearing because multinationals don't give a rats ass about American workers. They ship the jobs manufacturing their crap overseas but then want the privilege of selling that crap, unfettered, back into the U.S. to the same out-of-fucking-work people whose jobs they gave away to someone overseas.

Fuck them. TPP is by, and for multinationals and their 1% owners. Their Republican poodles in congress are working hard to expand the underclass in the U.S. to ensure that there is an ample supply of hungry people to mow their lawns and mop their floors for a bowl of gruel. And TPP is just one more big step toward making that transition permanent.

And I have no fucking idea what the hell the President is thinking. I can only assume that he is being blackmailed into supporting this nation rotting piece of crap.

[hifiguy]

6. This x 100

The president is no fool. He saw how lavishly the Clintons have been rewarded for their services rendered to the tenth-percenters.

[KittyWampus]

5. what a repulsive way to try and make a point.

[Nye Bevan]

7. How about waiting for the memorial services to be over

before capitalizing on this awful tragedy to attempt to make some kind of political point? Just a thought.

[GoneFishin]

8. Yes. And once you are locked outside of it your fate will be controlled by someone who has his

own sick agenda.

You will know something bad is happening to you and those around you. But having given up control to someone you counted on and had every reason to trust, you find out too late that they had something very different in mind.