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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsToo bad I'm not on TV. I'd say the Oklahoma tornadoes are God's way
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of punishing the area for their racism, their hatred of the LGBT community, and for electing idiot Senators who deny climate change. I truly think God's pissed.
Oopsy! I guess only preachers are allowed to blame things on the sins of people.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Conduction and convection.
In the end, tornadoes are solar powered weather phenomena.
I've observed water spouts over the Caribbean. They are mesmerizing.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)malthaussen
(17,065 posts)... education not required. All you need is the ability to project passionate belief.
Oh, and no scruples at all.
-- Mal
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Why do you feel you have any moral superiority to them? Why is it every fucking time, over the last decade, whether it is fires or tornadoes some dimwit gets on DU and shits on people?
sinkingfeeling
(51,274 posts)it's all because their god is displeased. Because women have abortions or two gays marry. The lovely 'Christian' TV preachers shit on everybody that doesn't send them $20 a week. Why do they have moral superiority?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)These idiots don't hesitate to say gawd is punishing the people when it happens to someone else.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's been a while since I talked to you, I hope she's well.
Don't let the op get you down, it's just business as usual in GD.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)for a few years so our main issues nowadays are culture shock. Getting used to having to kiss everyone on both cheeks (French Cultural Influence) and the cars on the wrong side of the road (English Colonial Influence) and the fact that everyone but us speaks three languages, French, English, and Creole.
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Not Me
(3,398 posts)You can bet that any disaster that occurs after SOTUS rules on marriage equality will be linked to teh gays.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Along with their record number of earthquakes from fracking waste disposal...
Unless you are actually FOR cracking apart the earth beneath us, destroying millions of gallons of water, creating radioactive & cancerous fracking waste, creating methane flares for faster climate change, wrecking small towns & their drinking water, killing widlife in fracking accidents, etc.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)You think that God should punish every citizen in every state (or make an example of a few) in which fracking occurs, even if the citizens being punished a) aren't doing the fracking and b) have no way to control the fracking.
That attitude is why most people on this board despise televangelists. Are you better than that?
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)You know that somebody died last night and a lot of people lost their homes, right? Try to show a little class.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Arkansas doesn't exactly strike me as the land of enlightenment.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)You're not immune: your comments are sickening. If you had a conscience, you'd delete the OP.
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OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Your state is not without it's share of racists as well.
It sickens me to read these broad-brush attacks when most Oklahomans I know are good people.
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OKNancy
(41,832 posts)and they have good manners as well. They don't get on the internet and slam people they don't know.
ETA: uh oh.. you can't respond. LOL
janlyn
(735 posts)Having been in 2 tornadoes myself, I could never wish that on anyone! And it is the height of rudeness to wish ill to others !Hugs from Arkansas
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)OKNancy
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(12,778 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Did you have to take shelter?
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NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Of course, I've come to expect them.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)disasters on things like Gay Marriage, but they do it ONLY when it happens in BLUE STATES. Never when it happens in places like OK.
It should be obvious.
Geesh. Get a grip.
sinkingfeeling
(51,274 posts)gaspee
(3,231 posts)And then some people decided to lose their collective shit and I was all - WTF? Reading comprehension, anyone?
Worried senior
(1,328 posts)those that claim to speak for God, we hear plenty of that.
Mariana
(14,847 posts)Amazing that anyone on this site would stick up for the likes of Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)I hope you aren't also wishing destructive weather on them, and possibly the planes they are flying in on.
kath
(10,565 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Oklahoma City is hosting two rounds next year.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Apparently one of the planes from South Bend (Notre Dame) was rerouted from Oklahoma City on Wednesday to avoid the storms then and they had to ride in by bus.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/article16340588.html
All of those teams flew in on Wednesday, as I suspect many of their fans too. It would have been horrible if one of those storms had caused one of those planes to crash. I would think then we'd want to rethink the sentiments of the OP had that happened. Likewise, I think for those who did suffer in those storms there, I think they deserve our sympathy as Democrats with our traditional values, whether they are Republicans or some other political persuasion/party. We don't have to respond to the Pat Robertsons of the world in the same fashion they act.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Seeing the skies in my part of the state last night, I wouldn't have wanted to fly over Oklahoma either. It's been a long time since lightning lit things up like that around here.
sinkingfeeling
(51,274 posts)think God is doing bad things because of the state's people. I'm trying to point out that if the tornadoes last night (there 4 in my county) were some place else, some would say it was just punishment from God. Here's a few examples:
A day after Haitis devastating 2009 earthquake, U.S. Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson said the disaster was provoked by the Haitians' "pact to the devil."
All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens, John Hagee, a Texas-based evangelical pastor who leads the Christian Zionist movement in the United States, said after Katrina. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are - were recipients of the judgment of God for that."
Two days after the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, the Rev. Jerry Falwell said the attacks were, at least in part, Gods judgment on those who would secularize American public life.
"God is systematically destroying America," McTernan wrote in a blog post on his website this week. "Just look at what has happened this year." (Hurricane Sandy)
Northridge Earthquake, 1994
Pat Robertson said the 6.7 magnitude earthquake in Los Angeles County's San Fernando Valley, which caused about $25 billion in damage and 72 deaths, could be attributed to God's displeasure with gays and lesbians, pro-choice activists, and "perversity," he said.
Hurricane Bonnie, 1988
Pat Robertson tried to pre-emptively blame gay revelers at Disney World's Gay Days Weekend for being the cause of the pending storm.
Tsunami, 2011
Just a couple of months later, (Cindy) Jacobs added that homosexuality caused the 9.0 magnitude earthquake, which prompted a destructive tsunami in eastern Japan, causing 15,870 deaths and $235 billion in damage.
A year later, Megachurch Pastor John Haggee of San Antonio, Texas, said God caused Hurricane Katrina to wipe out New Orleans because it had a gay pride parade the week before and was filled with sexual sin.
"You know what, God is not one that is going to wink at sin," Olsen said in a video. "God is shaking. If anybody looks at the news and has just seen what's been happening recently with the floods, the fires, the tornadoes, God is shaking. Yeah I think you have God shaking, sure you have the enemy shaking, you have both and I don't want to say oh that's the judgment of God or that's the enemy. But the reality is God is judging us, and I think it's going to get worse."
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/10/31/10-disasters-gays-were-blamed-causing?page=full
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/16/6-other-calamities-blamed-on-divine-retribution/
sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)and the spirit in which you posted it. I'm willing to bet that everyone who read it got it too but ya know you have to be politically correct even on DU because there are the finger pointers who would suggest that because there was loss of life and property only sympathy can be observed or expressed. Then you have the followers of the finger pointers and you get piled up on.
I'd like to believe that everyone is capable of observing events with more than one view or focus. One doesn't denigrate the other because the foundation (focus) is totally different.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,274 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Way one: Click the "smilies" button between your title and message text. Then you can click on the smilely you want to insert into your post. To get the larger smilies, like , you will have to click on the "..." button at the end of the list.
Way two: type : sarcasm : where you want the smiley, without the spaces between the word and the colons (I had to put in spaces so it would show the text instead of the smiley)
MisterP
(23,730 posts)where everything from a quark-flip to a supernova is divine will: it was really big in mid-18th-c. Methodist revivalism in Britain, and seeped into the CoE at which point William Blake tore it a new one: it often pops up in rhetoric, but it's a real big *movement* in the US, yoked to prosperity gospel and social Darwinism
a big part of this is only half the country's in "mainstream" denominations: since the 1960s US religion has been dominated by DIY churches--one congregation, one minister
frankly they SHOULD teach all this in HS!
Mariana
(14,847 posts)Your meaning was perfectly clear.
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)Not even close to being funny. Natural disasters happen everywhere in this country not just in OK. Are you saying that killing 7 children in 2013 was God's way of getting back at Oklahoma for it's politics?
I'm nowhere close to being comfortable with the politics in this state, I don't identify as a Christian either, however there are really good and caring people here who don't deserve this type of hatred. I also don't believe that the guy in the sky would go after kids or be that hateful.
I am sure I will get slammed for this, but I couldn't let this go without saying something.
sinkingfeeling
(51,274 posts)people weren't praying.
"If enough people were praying (God) wouldve intervened, you could pray, Jesus stilled the storm, you can still storms, Robertson said on the show.
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)I think even I would have tried to pray.
gaspee
(3,231 posts)Has the collective IQ of DU fallen so much in the months I haven't been here? This was clearly sarcasm, not the OP stating a belief. How odd...
This explains so much about many of the people who post here. Its sad.
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)Sorry to disappoint you, I knew it was sarcasm, I just didn't see the humor in it.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)the tragedy of the destruction caused by the tornadoes.
It doesn't speak to the tornadoes at all, only TV evangelists who use natural disasters as a way to stump their anti-gay rhetoric.
Hello?
kath
(10,565 posts)Lowest basement some days.
Sheesh!
And years back, it used to be frequently be stated here that the Freepers couldn't grasp satire/parody because they were too stupid...
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)sharp witted and quick. This place used to Fly. Now, it just seems to crawl ... lingering ....
I don't know.
Just different ... still DU but, not DU.
libodem
(19,288 posts)But the thought passed through my head, too.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)that you were being sarcastic, even without the tag.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)and still be mean-spirited, hateful, and ugly. It's quite common in fact.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)It was so obviously sarcasm, aimed at those who do say the sorts of things the OP parodies: that disasters happen because god is punishing the gay, or women who have abortions, or some such.
If people here can't understand parody, well, I'm not sure what to say as the first three things I thought of simply weren't very nice so I'm not going to say them.
Behind the Aegis
(53,823 posts)Some seem to forget there are many of us who live in this state, we are simply "abstract" to them. The "other." Glad you are OK.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Hopefully we have a few days of nice weather coming.
Mariana
(14,847 posts)They'll make shit up if they have to, in order to have an excuse to get indignant.
Vinca
(50,168 posts)more tornadoes for Jesusland. The kicker is when they stand in front of their demolished home/church/school and say, "God is testing us." Apparently, it isn't an intelligence test.