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kpete

(71,898 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:18 PM Mar 2015

White House chief of staff: 50 years of Israeli occupation must end

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White House chief of staff: 50 years of Israeli occupation must end
U.S. cannot pretend Netanyahu didn't say no Palestinian state would be established on his watch, Denis McDonough tells J Street conference in Washington



“We cannot simply pretend that those comments were never made,” McDonough told the J Street conference in Washington, whose left-leaning audience received his remarks enthusiastically.

“Israel cannot maintain military control of another people indefinitely,” he said. “An occupation that has lasted for almost 50 years must end.”

MORE:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.648465


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/23/white-house-israeli-occupation-palestinian-territories-must-end
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White House chief of staff: 50 years of Israeli occupation must end (Original Post) kpete Mar 2015 OP
Huge K&R! The apartheid system run by Israel must end. dissentient Mar 2015 #1
about time the obvious angryvet Mar 2015 #2
Should the US be funding a nation whose current leader has stated publicly that they are an sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #3
But, but, but... God gave us all this land!!! longship Mar 2015 #4
Bibi is not religious oberliner Mar 2015 #16
Maybe. But he's still a kook. longship Mar 2015 #35
K & R Scurrilous Mar 2015 #5
350,000 Israeli settlers living in the West Bank Martin Eden Mar 2015 #6
Me either n/t SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #7
The illegal Israeli immigrants in Palestine should be subject to the Republican Party immigration position in America. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #8
THAT would make some heads explode! n/t Martin Eden Mar 2015 #10
Why? If Republicans like their domestic immigration stance so much, why isn't it good for BFF Israel? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #11
Because Martin Eden Mar 2015 #12
What about a land swap as proposed in the Geneva Initiative? oberliner Mar 2015 #17
Looks like an honest effort Martin Eden Mar 2015 #22
That would be up to the Palestinians, wouldn't it? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #28
Kind of breathtaking. KnR. Hekate Mar 2015 #9
What else is in store for Bibi..Obama calls them out on their nukes? K&R Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #13
K & R democrank Mar 2015 #14
Cut off all funding and every weapon from bullets on up. obxhead Mar 2015 #15
+1000 mountain grammy Mar 2015 #20
Hillary should distance herself from this sort of rhetoric and from J Street generally. tritsofme Mar 2015 #18
Really? obxhead Mar 2015 #21
I've been researching the issue my whole life, thank you very much. tritsofme Mar 2015 #23
And that would be good? elleng Mar 2015 #27
It will be great. tritsofme Mar 2015 #29
Please explain. elleng Mar 2015 #31
We've been around the block before, I believe. tritsofme Mar 2015 #32
You and I have never discussed this before, elleng Mar 2015 #33
HI, obx! elleng Mar 2015 #34
About freaking time malaise Mar 2015 #19
Dr. Frankenstein to Monster: We'd like you to be ''less monstery.'' DeSwiss Mar 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Sissyk Mar 2015 #25
Good to hear. elleng Mar 2015 #26
Since Bibi made his Clean Break with us, its our turn now. leveymg Mar 2015 #30
Is he talking about Congress? nt Damansarajaya Mar 2015 #36
 

dissentient

(861 posts)
1. Huge K&R! The apartheid system run by Israel must end.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
Mar 2015

President Carter is right, and has been all along!!

angryvet

(181 posts)
2. about time the obvious
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:21 PM
Mar 2015

was stated. What Israel is doing to the Palestinians is criminal. Israelis illegal settlers rip up Palestinian's olive groves. Israeli illegal settlers build synagogs on Palestinian lands. Hiways in Gaza and the West Bank don't even have road signs in Arabic. This has got to end.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Should the US be funding a nation whose current leader has stated publicly that they are an
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:22 PM
Mar 2015

Apartheid State?

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. But, but, but... God gave us all this land!!!
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:50 PM
Mar 2015

If anybody claims such as Netanyahu, they are no better than "lebensraum".

Sorry for the Godwin invocation, but Bibi is not much different. In other words, he is a fucking religious lunatic.

longship

(40,416 posts)
35. Maybe. But he's still a kook.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:38 PM
Mar 2015

And he seems to pander to the religious kooks, who want no peace in the Middle East.

So, there is no effective difference than if he was religious.

Martin Eden

(12,801 posts)
6. 350,000 Israeli settlers living in the West Bank
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:03 PM
Mar 2015
What are the chances they will be:
a) forced to leave their homes by the Israeli government?
b) willing to live within and be subject to the authority of a Palestinian State?

I don't see either of those things happening.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. The illegal Israeli immigrants in Palestine should be subject to the Republican Party immigration position in America.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:11 PM
Mar 2015

Martin Eden

(12,801 posts)
22. Looks like an honest effort
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:25 PM
Mar 2015

I wasn't familiar with it; here's a snip from the Summary:

. Borders and settlements:
The border marked on a detailed map is final and indisputable.
According to the accord and maps, the extended borders of the State of Israel will include Jewish settlements currently beyond the Green Line, Jewish neighborhoods in East Jerusalem, and territories with significance for security surrounding Ben Gurion International Airport. These territories will be annexed to Israel on agreement and will become inseparable from it.
In return to the annexation of land beyond the 1967 border, Israel will hand over alternative land to the Palestinian, based on a 1:1 ratio. The lands annexed to the Palestinian State will be of equal quality and quantity.


The devil will be in the details, and meanwhile Israel keeps making facts on the ground with more settlements. I think this would be extremely difficult politically, and even moreso because hardliners on either side could derail the process.

I think this initiative exists because there is no other more viable route to peace, but I sincerely doubt this has much of a chance.

Thanks for the info.
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. That would be up to the Palestinians, wouldn't it?
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:16 PM
Mar 2015

I mean it's their rightful land that you're trying to trade back to them, isn't it?

tritsofme

(17,320 posts)
18. Hillary should distance herself from this sort of rhetoric and from J Street generally.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:02 PM
Mar 2015

Her administration will be much better than the current on the issue of Israel.

tritsofme

(17,320 posts)
23. I've been researching the issue my whole life, thank you very much.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:31 PM
Mar 2015

Israel is one of our greatest allies and closest friends. Our relationship is much larger and more enduring than two clashing personalities.

I am confident that Hillary will make a clean break from the J Street crowd.

tritsofme

(17,320 posts)
32. We've been around the block before, I believe.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:30 PM
Mar 2015

I have no illusions of changing your mind.

I expressed my opinion in the previous posts, I look forward to Hillary correcting this tangent.

Response to kpete (Original post)

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
30. Since Bibi made his Clean Break with us, its our turn now.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:17 PM
Mar 2015

Just don't expect things will ever be the same between us.

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