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Wed May 2, 2012, 12:55 PM

Rick Scott allows guns at GOP convention to ‘protect’ citizens from ‘protests’

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) has officially rejected a proposal by the city of Tampa to limit firearms outside the Republican National Convention in Florida later this year. Last week, the Tampa City Council formally asked Scott to use his executive power to temporarily suspend a state law that prevents local governments from regulating guns.

The council has already issued a citywide ban on items like pieces of wood, switchblades, slingshots, containers of bodily fluids and even squirt guns. A so-called “Clean Zone” around the convention area would prohibit string longer than six inches, glass containers, light bulbs, portable shields and gas masks. A smaller protest area would prevent demonstrators from having camping gear, bottles, cans and umbrellas. The Secret Service has said that only law enforcement will be able to carry firearms inside of the convention center.

Council member Lisa Montelione told Scott that a gun ban was necessary to “prevent a potential tragedy.”

“The short answer to your request is found in the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Article I, Section 8 of the Florida Constitution,” Scott said in his letter to the council (PDF). “While the government may enforce longstanding prohibitions on the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, an absolute ban on possession in entire neighborhoods and regions would surely violate the 2nd Amendment.”

“Like you, I share the concern that ‘violent anti-government protests or other civil unrest’ can pose ‘dangers’ and the ‘threat of substantial injury or harm to Florida residents and visitors to the State.’ But it is unclear how disarming law-abiding citizens would better protect them from the dangers and threats posed by those who would flout the law,” he added.

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Reply Rick Scott allows guns at GOP convention to ‘protect’ citizens from ‘protests’ (Original post)
FarLeftFist May 2012 OP
dkf May 2012 #1
onehandle May 2012 #2
csziggy May 2012 #3
lpbk2713 May 2012 #4
Downwinder May 2012 #5
gratuitous May 2012 #6
JoePhilly May 2012 #7
Marr May 2012 #8
bongbong May 2012 #21
maxrandb May 2012 #9
Doctor_J May 2012 #10
Odin2005 May 2012 #11
Gregorian May 2012 #12
madinmaryland May 2012 #13
anti-alec May 2012 #14
LASlibinSC May 2012 #15
veganlush May 2012 #16
veganlush May 2012 #17
kentuck May 2012 #18
backscatter712 May 2012 #19
bongbong May 2012 #20
Aerows May 2012 #22
socialist_n_TN May 2012 #23
butterfly77 May 2012 #24
nanabugg May 2012 #25
Iris May 2012 #26
DarkPoetinc Aug 2012 #27
DURHAM D Aug 2012 #28

Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 12:57 PM

1. Good grief, with SYG laws this is a recipe for disaster.

 

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 12:58 PM

2. Now every tiny-dicked Dirty Harry wannabe is free to shoot any protester he sees as a threat.

See George Zimmerman.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:00 PM

3. So how long into the convention until some gun toting GOPer thinks they need to SYG

Against protestors exercising their free speech rights? After all, the history of the Stand Your Ground (which should be known as Shoot First) is that all that has to happen is for someone to "feel threatened". So if some tea bagger feels threatened by the opinions of an Occupy type, they'd probably feel justified in shooting them.

This has the potential to make Chicago 1968 look like a picnic in the park!

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:02 PM

4. Who's going to protect us from the RNC?




Silly me ... Scott doesn't GAF about that.



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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:21 PM

5. DUH, won't protesters have guns? They are citizens too.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:23 PM

6. I am hopeful that people will exercise restraint

I am not, however, optimistic that they will do so.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:24 PM

7. "Violent anti-government protesters" ... ummm ... that's the GOP's base.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:26 PM

8. Protesters aren't citizens now?

I expect this rule would be reversed in about 10 minutes if the protesters showed up with more guns than the GOP'ers.

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Response to Marr (Reply #8)

Wed May 2, 2012, 03:32 PM

21. Yes

 

Just like the repigs in California suddenly called for, and passed, gun control after the Black Panthers started carrying guns to protect themselves from the cops in the 1960s.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:28 PM

9. What could possibly go wrong???

Bunch of drunk, angry, senile-old-teabaggers at a convention to nominate Mitt Rmoney??? What are they worried about.

But, I can't understand this: "The Secret Service has said that only law enforcement will be able to carry firearms inside of the convention center.

Why the fuck not you ASSHATS!?

Bunch of namby-pamby "so-called" strong supporters of the 2ND Amendment.

It would be a damn shame if they had a "real" circular firing squad and take the entire convention out. The collective IQ in Florida would tripple in an instant.

Fuck it! Let's just go all "Wild, WIld West". Instead of a ballot of delegates, let Rmoney, Santorum, Newt and Paul participate in a duel. Pass out guns in the gift bags and issue them to the protesters. It's not like anything would go wrong.

I mean, it's not like the Repukes are so beholden to and petrified of the NRA that they'd throw common sense out the window...are they?

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:38 PM

10. Hopefully a few hundred protestors will stand their ground

it's their law, we need to make it work for us.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:42 PM

11. Prick Scott should be arrested for inciting violence.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:43 PM

12. Am I the only one who is thinking of THIS-

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #12)

Wed May 2, 2012, 01:47 PM

13. I was thinking more along the lines of this....



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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 02:22 PM

15. I don't worry about the guns

it's all about the bullets. Oh yeah and the string

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 03:03 PM

16. What part of the second amendment

can be used to deny people INSIDE the convention center the right to bear?

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 03:21 PM

17. The second amendment

is the biggest fraud, why is it so hard for people to see that? ".....and BEAR arms, shall NOT be infringed..."

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 03:23 PM

18. Good !

Maybe they will kill each other off?

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 03:26 PM

19. I'm trying to be concerned about the Repubs shooting each other.

Because I'm not worried at all about protesters.

But with all the infighting in the GOP, I ought to concerned about delegates and politicians shooting each other.

Really... I'm trying to be concerned. Trying and failing.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 03:29 PM

20. Criminal Scott repeats the same lie

 

The 2nd Amendment is about militias, not about laissez-faire gun ownership. The SCOTUS (mostly) held this view for a long time, until the super-conservatives appointed by Cheney (thru his assistant Bush) overturned decades of precedent with Heller.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 03:35 PM

22. What could possibly go wrong here?

Sheesh.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 08:38 PM

23. Scott is a fucking idiot..............

Either that or there's a more sinister motive behind this.

One of my speculations when we were talking a lot about Trayvon Martin was that this law was implemented to give private citizens the same immunities from prosecution that the police have always had when it comes to murdering citizens they don't like. I further speculated that it wouldn't be long before this immunity extended to killing the rest of us on the left, not just black folk. After reading this I think that if I were planning on going to FL for the convention protests, I would be going armed. I would LITERALLY be in fear for my life every moment I was there.

Or maybe he's just an idiot.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 08:50 PM

24. Can the protestors bring guns too?

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Response to butterfly77 (Reply #24)

Wed May 2, 2012, 09:04 PM

25. I would assume so. They need to protect themselves. Occupy the Shootout!! nt

 

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Response to FarLeftFist (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2012, 09:10 PM

26. Uncivilized.

Even if they won't admit their policies are radical and designed to create a serfdom then this proves it. Their ideas can't hold up to a civilized debate so they assume violence will have to be the answer.

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Response to DarkPoetinc (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:46 PM

28. Have fun back at the Cave.

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