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Tue May 1, 2012, 06:16 PM

Pres. G.W. Bush DIDN'T Give The Order When Bin Laden Was At Tora Bora

So their talking point that "Any President would have given that order" is simply false. The Republican party's most recent choice for Commander-In-Chief failed to give that order even when it was a much easier order to give.



http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-4494937.html

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But they didn't do that either, because Fury says that plan was also disapproved. He says he has "no idea" why.

"How often does Delta come up with a tactical plan that's disapproved by higher headquarters?" Pelley asks.

"In my experience, in my five years at Delta, never before," Fury says.

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Reply Pres. G.W. Bush DIDN'T Give The Order When Bin Laden Was At Tora Bora (Original post)
Motown_Johnny May 2012 OP
unblock May 2012 #1
mythology May 2012 #9
lastlib May 2012 #10
Motown_Johnny May 2012 #13
underpants May 2012 #2
AzDar May 2012 #3
chieftain May 2012 #5
chieftain May 2012 #4
Botany May 2012 #6
Motown_Johnny May 2012 #12
annabanana May 2012 #7
SunSeeker May 2012 #8
aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #14
TahitiNut May 2012 #11

Response to Motown_Johnny (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 06:46 PM

1. notice that the rmoney campaign DIDN'T say "even gwb would have given the order". they said CARTER.

even having lived through the shrub years, it's still mind-boggling, especially with the right-wing bent of the media, that shrub was SO bad, and so OBVIOUSLY bad, that he managed to lose the not just tarnish the republican brand, but in the end, he may well be responsible for ceding NATIONAL SECURITY as an "issue" to the democratic party.

nevermind that republicans have always been far more bluster than ability when it comes to national security, the media and the popular consensus has looooooong been that this "issue" was a republican strength.

perhaps, perhaps, no longer.

a bit of a silver lining in the dark, dark cloud that was the shrub years.

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Response to unblock (Reply #1)

Tue May 1, 2012, 08:07 PM

9. That's because to Republicans it's a grave insult to compare somebody to Carter.

They don't recognize that Reagan intentionally screwed around to delay the release of the captives in Iran or that Reagan then made the decision to sell arms to Iran and unpopular rebels in Nicaragua.

It cuts in to their drooling hero worship.

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Response to mythology (Reply #9)

Tue May 1, 2012, 08:16 PM

10. Ronald Reagan would've sold bin Laden the helicopters!

(I hate that bastard..)

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Response to lastlib (Reply #10)

Tue May 1, 2012, 10:41 PM

13. Reagan gave Bin Laden tons of weapons

and then allowed him to fill the power vacuum once the Soviets pulled out.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 06:59 PM

2. We need Rangers now!

But Gary Berntsen, the CIA officer in charge of the agency's paramilitary operation in Tora Bora, was convinced that air attacks alone wouldn't get the number one target, Osama bin Laden.

"We needed U.S. soldiers on the ground!" Berntsen wrote in his 2005 book "Jawbreaker."

"I'd sent my request for 800 U.S. Army Rangers and was still waiting for a response. I repeated to anyone at headquarters who would listen: We need Rangers now!"


http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/05/10-years-of-war-the-battle-of-tora-bora-missed-opportunity/

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 07:03 PM

3. I believe GWB gave the order all right... the order to let him go.

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Response to AzDar (Reply #3)

Tue May 1, 2012, 07:42 PM

5. As well as the order to let Saudis leave the US

even though all other civilian aircraft was grounded in the days immediately following 9/11.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 07:40 PM

4. K&R

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 07:55 PM

6. Rummy did and it was to stand down and let the locals go after OBL

n/t

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Response to Botany (Reply #6)

Tue May 1, 2012, 09:57 PM

12. You don't think Rummy talked to The Rummy before that order was given?

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 08:00 PM

7. That makes sense.

He was much more valuable to them as teh monster that we would give up anything to be saved from

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 08:06 PM

8. Thank you for the post!

Bush's Tora Bora fail should be mentioned every time the Cons claims what Obama did was no big deal.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #8)

Tue May 1, 2012, 10:55 PM

14. I can't see how any right wing pundits would handle that question

except to stammer and cough their way to the next commercial break.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 08:31 PM

11. He was FAR more valuable to Bush/Cheney/BigOil alive than dead.

Fear & loathing ... the GOP themes for control.

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