I’m Jewish and have such a difficult time with Right Wing Jews.

[busterbrown]

I was always brought up to think that people of our faith were always on the right side of social/political issues.. I realize most of the reasons many of our faith have embraced solid core right wing issues, however today I was roving through various right wing sites today, to see the “facts” on how Obama has been sending political teams into Israel in order to defeat Bibi..

Because we all know how our President is so not politically savvy...

Anyway I’m posting this not so much to attack but rather just out of disappointment ..

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/obama-runs-campaign-defeat-netanyahu-israel-elections

[randr]

1. I too am extremely disappointed by the political scene in Israel

Of all the people on the planet, the Jews have the moral authority to make a difference in regards to human rights worldwide. Instead, they have had 60 years to make some peace with their neighbors in the Mideast, they have created an occupied ghetto for their closest relations, and they have become militarily reliant on the largest empire in the history of the world.
At a time when the world needs moral guidance and examples of good will they are not showing the slightest interest in what could be their greatest calling in history.

[busterbrown]

2. We mus not forget this:

There are thousands upon thousands who’s voices are not heard..

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/world/middleeast/04israel.html?_r=0

[randr]

5. Thanks

I needed that and so do the American people at large.

[Rhinodawg]

3. Sorry... not me.

Have we learned N O T H I N G from the past?

Moral authority for some reason didn't work in Germany.
Not doing to well in Europe right now.

Funny how jews are singled out for "morality" when they defend themselves.

I'm never going to drink that Kool-Aid... never.

The world loves jews....after they are dead.


NEVER AGAIN.

[busterbrown]

10. Who singled them out.?.

You and I are on entirely diff. pages..No one in their right mind would ever deny the atrocities which they endured...

[Scootaloo]

27. if you have a strong stomach, look up Rhinodawg's posts

You'll get a pretty clear picture of where the fellow is coming from.

[tenderfoot]

33. He's a member of the 101st Keyboardist Brigade

ready to sit out another armed conflict like the rest of the blood thirsty chickenhawks.

[nomorenomore08]

35. But does killing civilians by the hundreds (including children) really fall under "self-defense"?

I support Israel's right to exist, and do not condone any form of terrorism or political violence. But if you look at Israel vs. Palestine over the last decades, the body count is far from symmetrical.

[hifiguy]

7. Right wing Jews learned all the wrong lesson from the Holocaust

and they learned them from their oppressors.

[Rhinodawg]

8. Wow

wow,wow,wow.

I think I'd better not say anything.

[hifiguy]

9. I refer to the hard-core ultra-right fringe

and their political toadys like Netanyahoo, who seem to view the Palestinian people as subhumans.

[Rex]

4. I have a hard time dealing with Right Wingers period.

And that goes double for when they are also fundamentalists as well. My world and their world are galaxies apart. When I hear them talk about social issues, it makes me cringe.

[Wella]

6. I have Jewish friends in both camps

My left wing friends are actually for divestment (BDS) and a two-state solution. My right wing friends are for attacking ISIS, stopping negotiations with Iran, and sticking up for Bibi. As a non-Jew, I don't always know what to make of the situation. I wish there were a more comprehensive view and not just "sides."

[busterbrown]

11. There could be a “more comprehensive view” There is right from wrong.

It is up to forums like this to clarify the diff. view points..

[Wella]

17. It takes a greater understanding of the issues to make a moral judgment

That's what concerns me. I don't think we know enough in this country.

[leftynyc]

19. Well, I come from a family of liberal Jewws

Most of my friends are liberal Jews - we all vote Democratic and not one - NOT ONE - supports BDS. We're also quite capable of separating Israel from bibi.

[Wella]

29. What are your thoughts on BDS, other than not supporting it?

I know it has led to many issues, including the non-hiring of one Stephen Salaita at University of Illinois, but how is BDS different from supporting the cause for justice in Palestine?

[leftynyc]

34. I honestly don't care about it

because I think it's completely ineffective when it comes to getting what it's seeking. But then I think the problems the Palestinians have are largely their own fault and the fault of those they've chosen as leaders. I honestly used to have a lot more sympathy but the suicide bombings and later, the rocket attacks have completely chipped away at that sympathy. Gazans voting in a terrorist organization to lead them was the final straw. It's certainly not Israel's fault that their choice was between corruption and terrorism. The Palestinians have been used as pawns by their own leaders as well as most of the countries that proclaim sympathy for them.

[kelliekat44]

28. Attacking ISIS?? Where? I know Iran has joined the fight against ISIS on the ground along with

Iraqi military, Sunnis, and Shia. You find that reported in much US media, you have to search al-Jazeera and the BBC etc.

[Spider Jerusalem]

12. It seems to me that there are a lot of American Jews...

who are very liberal when it comes to domestic US politics, and on the extreme right when it comes to Israeli politics (Anthony Weiner comes to mind as an example).

And that article seems to be a bit silly; Israel has strict laws about foreign campaign contributions (they're legal for primaries, but not for general elections); if some Israeli political group looks to hire American campaign consultants, for instance, I don't see that as being "Obama runs a campaign to defeat Netanyahu" (the UK Labour Party has hired David Axelrod as a consultant, I haven't seen anything in the news about "Obama masterminds plan to take down Cameron", because it's absurd).

[busterbrown]

15. There’s a ton of such stories out there today..Right Wing Fish Stink Stuff..

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/world/middleeast/04israel.html?_r=0

[JaneyVee]

14. Same here, on the bright side, 70% of US Jews vote Democratic.

[stevenleser]

23. I thought it was closer to 80% and same here. nt

[hunter]

16. Right wing Catholics are similar.

It always boils down to authoritarians on one side, everyone else on the other.

[Gothmog]

18. I am jewish

I know a number of very conservative Jews

[mucifer]

20. Yeah, I have a cousin who is a great guy but a right wing zionist.

In his personal life he is a amazing.

[busterbrown]

21. I have almost the identical situation... My berst friends.

He’s a tough guy...Always reminding me of the holocaust...When I bring up Gaza.. No connection between the two, yet invariably mentions that there is, even though he can’t define it..

[Bucky]

22. Being liberal, I find rightwingers annoying regardless of religious preference

[edhopper]

24. Why should you not criticize

people who are on the wrong political side.
Plenty of Jews are on the wrong side, being a Jew shouldn't get them a pass.
I don't know any progressive Jews that don't find Joe Lieberman a worthless POS.
And Eric Cantor was a disgusting fascist.

[busterbrown]

25. Oh, I’m all for blasting the crap out of them..Gladly.

But when I began writing the O.P. I didn’t want the thread turned into a who’s more anti-semetic piece.

[edhopper]

30. I see

Nobody gets a pass from me because he's Jewish.

[elleng]

26. I don't read that stuff, buster.

Life is hard enough.

[SomethingFishy]

31. You are not alone... I love fucking with them though...

Am I a Jew because I was born to a Jewish Mother? Or because I practice Judaism? Since I don't practice any religion am I really a Jew? Am I only a Jew if I agree with Israel's policies on Palestine? If I don't does that make me a Muslim?

They just get all fucking confused.

[Caretha]

32. I'm not Jewish

but so do I. In fact I have a hard time with wrapping my head around all right wing values.