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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRussian Newspaper publishes Kremlin strategy paper on plans to annex the Ukraine
Drawn up before the fall of the government in Kiev.
First the link to the original publication in Russian: http://www.novayagazeta.ru/politics/67389.html
Translation of the article and document as published on a Ukranian website:
The document that has come into the possession of Novaya was presumably brought in to the Presidential Administration in the period between February 4 and February 12, 2014.
Now excerpts from the document:
First, the regime of Viktor Yanukovych has gone totally bankrupt. Its political, diplomatic, financial, and information support from the Russian Federation is no longer meaningful.
Second, as a sporadic civil war in the form of urban guerrilla of the so-called supporters of the Maidan against the leadership of a number of the countrys eastern regions has become a fact, while the disintegration of the Ukrainian state along the line of geographical demarcation of regional alliances - western regions plus Kyiv and eastern regions plus Crimea - has become part of the political agenda, [and] in these circumstances, Russia should in no way limit its policy toward Ukraine only to attempts to influence the political situation in Kyiv and the relationship of a systemic opposition (A. Yatsenyuk, V. Klitschko, O. Tyagnybok, P . Poroshenko, etc.) with the European Commission.
Third, in an almost complete paralysis of the central government, unable to form a responsible government even facing threats of default and of Naftogaz lacking funds to pay for Russian gas, Russia is simply obliged to get involved in the geopolitical intrigue of the European Community directed against the territorial integrity of Ukraine.
First of all, this is because otherwise our country risks losing not only the Ukrainian energy market, but also indirect control over Ukraines gas transportation system, which is much more dangerous. This will endanger the position of Gazprom in Central and Southern Europe, causing huge damage to our countrys economy.
3. The Constitution of Ukraine is in no case able to provide for a mechanism that could legitimately initiate the integration of Ukraines eastern territories and Crimea into the state-legal framework of the Russian Federation.
. . .
Current events in Kyiv convincingly show that the Yanukovychs time in power could end at any moment. Thus, there is less and less time for an appropriate Russian response. The number of dead in riots in the capital of Ukraine is direct evidence of the inevitability of civil war and the impossibility of reaching consensus if Yanukovych remains president. In these circumstances, it seems appropriate to play along the centrifugal aspirations of the various regions of the country, with a view to initiate the accession of its eastern regions to Russia, in one form or another. Crimea and Kharkiv region should become the dominant regions for making such efforts, as there already exist reasonably large groups there that support the idea of maximum integration with Russia.
4. Of course, taking the burden of supporting Crimea and several eastern territories, Russia will be forced to take on budget expenses, which would be cumbersome in the countrys present position.
Undoubtedly, this will affect macroeconomic stability and the prospects for [Russias] economic growth. However, geopolitically, the prize will be invaluable: our country will gain access to new demographic resources, [and] highly qualified industry and transport personnel will be at its disposal. In addition, it can count on the emergence of new eastward Slavic migration flows - as opposed to the Central Asian migration trends. The industrial potential of the Eastern Ukraine, including the military-industrial sector, once included in the Russian military-industrial complex, will allow for the faster and more successful implementation of the program of rearmament of Russias military forces.
What is equally important, Russias constructive, smoothing participation in the highly probable disintegration of the Ukrainian state will not only give new impetus to the Kremlins integration project, but will also allow our country to retain control over Ukraines gas transportation system, as mentioned above. And at the same time, it will allow there to be significant changes in the geopolitical situation in Central and Eastern Europe, allowing Russia to regain its major role there.
5. To start the process of a pro-Russian drift of Crimea and eastern Ukrainian territories, [certain] events should be created beforehand that can support this process with political legitimacy and moral justification; also a PR-strategy should be built that draws attention to the forced, reactive nature of the actions of Russia and the pro-Russian political elites of southern and eastern Ukraine.
Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1048525-novaya-gazetas-kremlin-papers-article-full-text-in-english.html
The document lays out the strategy for annexation of Crimea and parts of the Eastern Ukraine, as well as Russia's clear economic and geopolitical motives--"the prize"--for doing so.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)We had one MIRTed fellow come by and a couple of quick one liners, but the silence for the most part has been deafening.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)This just makes me....sad.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)an article that discussed an interview with the editor of the newspaper saying he would publish the document. Now he has. This shows the apologists for war on Ukraine have been completely wrong, just as we have been telling them.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)That was sarcasm about McCain after all the conspiracy theories put forth here.
Bookmarked for later -- great read. Thanks for posting, BainsBane.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Fair reluctance to support with taxes the pro-fascist forces from Western Ukraine and a government dependent on them, and guided by the requirements of the European Union rather than the needs of its citizens these should become slogans for the moment.
It is advisable to consistently voice these three slogans, which stem from one another:
- A demand for federalization (or confederation) as a guarantee for these regions against the pro-Western and nationalist forces interfering in their internal affairs;
- The eastern and south-eastern areas joining the Customs Union at the regional level independently from Kyiv, which will provide for the necessary conditions for their industrys normal operation and development;
- Direct sovereignty, followed by accession to Russia - the only guarantor of sustainable economic development and social stability.
Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1048525-novaya-gazetas-kremlin-papers-article-full-text-in-english.html
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Examples
I am really wondering why they are against federalization?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1008312
"a peaceful solution that allows for federalization of Ukraine. Only then will there be peace." http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017243072
Surprise, surprise, John Pilger uses the term too http://www.democraticunderground.com/101690926
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)which we have been told repeatedly justifies killing Ukrainians.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It's the swallowing up of one part of a federation by Russia that is the problem.
Remember! We have a "federal" government. And it works well.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)before ever seeing this. Thank you for bringing it here. There has been a lot of propaganda and assumptions being made from all sides, yet the facts that are know are understood by most and go against any ability of a liberal to support Putins game. It is only a small group of posters completely ignoring what is going on and they continue to tow the Putin line. He has them hook line and sinker. Meanwhile, people suffer.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Exactly. That is what is so appalling about the war apology.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I can only presume RT hasn't yet told them how to respond to this.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)there's a cash-flow problem at the Kremlin
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)I think there are people who will simply ignore any information that doesn't confirm their preexisting views. They are wedded to a certain worldview that to them is more important than the truth. I expect they will carry on posting their crap as though this never existed and might find some ways to attack the newspaper or Ukrainian news outlet. None of the discussion will be substantive.
William769
(55,144 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,730 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)So they won't be able to hide from it forever.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,730 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)what looked like weeks/days of really ridiculous propaganda and unbelievable conspiracy theories. It's nice to see the misinformation brigade being challenged by real facts.
This information and the recent murder near the Kremlin of the opposition leader should be enough to wake people up to the political realities of Russia's war on Ukraine.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Like the imperialist U.S. has planned for Mexico.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Complete with the talking points we've heard around here for months now.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)Only coming from the Kremlin this time.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)That is the triumph of this information.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)They fell right in line.
Do you think any will actually start to rethink their position and why they were so eager to accept whatever the Kremlin told them?
pampango
(24,692 posts)February 27 will from now on be marked in Russia as Special Operations Forces Day, according to a decree signed Thursday by President Vladimir Putin and published on the official legislative website. The Special Operations Forces, a branch of Russian defense apparatus operating both inside the country and abroad, was formed in March 2013. The Chief of the General Staff said at the time of its creation that the new branch was inspired by the experience of "the world's leading nations," Russian media reported.
Answering its own question of why Feb. 27 was chosen as the day, an article in government newspaper Rossiiskaya Gazeta said: "Remember what happened and where a year ago. And how it all ended."
One year ago, mysterious troops bearing no insignia appeared in Crimea, which was shortly afterward annexed from Ukraine by Russia. The troops, who said little and declined to reveal their identity but ensured order during the annexation and subsequent referendum on joining Russia, quickly became known as "little green men" in the international media and "polite people" in Russia.
Putin initially denied that Russian troops had been dispatched to Crimea, but later admitted it.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/putin-establishes-new-polite-people-day-in-russia-/516675.html
Russia honors those who it said were not there at the time, but made the annexation of Crimea possible.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Too much vodka no doubt.
Not much finesse. Pretty clumsy and awkward. Oh, dear.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)The pretense that it was anything other than an invasion was for outside consumption. Besides, he knows his supporters don't care. Shit, a key opposition leader was just gunned down in front of the Kremlin, and someone comes along and sites RT saying how heart broken Putin is about it.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Challenging Putin is perilous.
He was on his way to a peace march protesting Russian war in the Ukraine. How sad.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)This has to be kept at the top of GD. We cannot allow them to continue to spread propaganda exposed as lies, not without being called out on it.
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FSogol
(45,470 posts)You guys made more sense when you used terms like "running dog capitalist".
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)That is why I begin with the link to Novaya Gazeta. Meanwhile, you provide no sources for your OP and repeat the very talking points that the Kremlin outlined in its strategy paper before the fall in Kiev over a year ago.
You've been exposed.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)but not even my name, which is not pampango.
FSogol
(45,470 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)He has been busy. He's got a quota to meet.
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NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...as "the democrats" kind of betrays your political stance as anything but; and most likely Republican.
If you're a Democrat, don't give up so easily. If you're a Republican...feel free to hit the road.
For the record, you've had more than one post alerted and judged by a jury. Not everyone is against you.
pampango--Your source is questionable at best
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6290481
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nichomachus
(12,754 posts)We spent $5 billion on it.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)if you think $5 billion pays for a country. And nothing approaching evidence. Just the very propaganda in the Kremlin talking points.
Thank God Putin's there to liberate the Ukrainians from Western economic influence by putting them six feet under.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)That's a "Pants on Fire" whopper that the poster's repeating.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/mar/19/facebook-posts/united-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)the Putin people
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)are you seriously going to claim there is no difference between economic aid and rolling tanks into a country?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Do some fact checking before you just post stuff you find
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Facts and truth are entirely irrelevant to the Putin apologists.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Fuck Yeah.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)would suggest otherwise. Putin did just declare a national holiday to honor the Russian soldiers who took Crimea. He knows what's going on, even if you refuse to.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)As long as we're completely Complete Irrelevance Bingo.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)This is to important to be overlooked.
I agree that people need to see this.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)This needs to stay at the top.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Kick!
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)So I would ask you all to paste the info from the OP (no need to link to this thread) in their threads, so they can't run away from the information.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Those conspiracy theories were obviously not credible, and now we're seeing why.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)is they have decreased the propaganda proliferation. That may itself be an acknowledgment of error, even if they are not strong enough to admit they were wrong.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)Victoria Nuland CIA IMF Monsanto GMO Benedict Cumberbatch!