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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis joke isn't funny anymore!
When the President/Democrats say, "These were good ideas when they were your ideas, but suddenly they're not any longer (big smile), ha ha ha..."
Not funny.
This is how the country continues to get pulled further and further to the right. We wind up espousing their ideas. They then have to come up with more ludicrous (hyperbole) ideas, e.g., their war on women, to make their bad ideas of years past look reasonable when Dems sign off on them.
It's their game. They are winning because Dems are afraid to look center left, whatever that means today, because as far as I can tell, Republican ideas are erroneously being termed "the center" rather than "right of center." The right is mere hyperbole, there to pull the country further to the right. And it works!
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)has been the utter corruption of the Democratic message.
What used to be considered right-wing positions - austerity budgets, supply-side tax policies, free trade agreements, the police/surveillance state, defense of pre-emptive war as administration doctrine - have all been embraced by corporate Democrats and made bipartisan.
Our message has been poisoned. It's way past time to demand our party back.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)edhopper
(33,075 posts)good ideas!
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)then the Republicans will all the sudden think it is the worst idea in the world. They will even use it as a campaign issue. Rmoney is campaigning against his own health care plan, that is how crazy they are. I am sure we could come up with examples of this insanity all day.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)They're stuck with Romney, in fact, Rs will vote for him despite his flip-flopping. That's all beside the point.
The bigger picture is that Dems play their game and the end result is the country gets pulled further and further to the right. Even our beloved pundits on MSNBC and progressive radio play their game: OMG! Did you hear what they said about women, today!!! (5 minutes later) President Obama is now in favor of cap-and-trade, a Republican idea!, but NOW they're against it because Obama is for it!!! Can you believe these guys?!?!?!!
Wait a minute.
Shouldn't the question be...Can you believe Obama?!?!?! He keeps espousing Republican ideas!
DJ13
(23,671 posts)When the GOP is in power they propose absolutely stupid shit, but enact very little of it.
When the Democrats are in power they take those stupid shit ideas and treat them as serious proposals, getting much of them enacted into law (welfare 'reform' and NAFTA are two examples).
Its like the two parties are operating out a scripted play, and we're their audience.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)stopped them the first time(s) and they're still bad ideas now that the Democrats have embraced them. And this is what you get when you keep pursuing bad ideas.
K&R
alfredo
(60,062 posts)respect the residents of that territory and win their support, or at least prevent an uprising. When the opponent is finally vanquished, we can pull some of our troops from the occupied territories. Still we have to respect the customs of the occupied territories to keep those territories passive.
Not long ago the Republicans wanted to destroy the Democrats as a viable party. They failed because they showed no respect for those in occupied territories.
jillan
(39,451 posts)j/k
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)"Our enemies are innovative and resourcefull, and so are we. They never stop thinking of ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
George W. Bush, accidentally telling the truth
That was my email signature line in 2005.
I added this, about his re-selection
"I prophesy to you this evil man will plunge our Reich into the abyss and will inflict immeasurable woe on our nation. Future generations will curse you in your grave for this action." Erich Ludendorff
the abyss? Did I exxagerate? Be hyperbolic?
You decide. For myself, I think western civilization came that close, all too close, to going down with a crash.
http://timeline.stlouisfed.org/index.cfm?p=timeline&tlid=538#tl_538
immeasurable woe? Okay, maybe it is measurable, like 12.7 million unemployed even now. But nobody has really measured the number killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, nor the long term effects.
An election is coming up. Let's learn from our past mistakes, shall we? Don't vote Romney, don't vote Republican, don't return to the disastrous policies of George W, Bush and Ronald Reagan.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Otherwise I don't get it.
And often.