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from Financial Post:
Obama has repeatedly said a State Department review of the TransCanada Corp. project which would carry crude oil produced in Alberta, Canada, south through the U.S. should proceed before a decision is made on whether to allow construction of the US$8 billion pipeline.
Through this bill, the United States Congress attempts to circumvent longstanding and proven processes for determining whether or not building and operating a cross-border pipeline serves the national interest, the veto message said.
White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Obamas rejection was strictly about the legislation and not the project. Its certainly possible that Obama would eventually approve the pipeline once a State Department review is completed, he said, without giving a timetable.
The president will keep an open mind, Earnest said, repeating past administration language.
The State Department has given no firm timeline for its review of the pipeline, which was first proposed six years ago. Earnest said Tuesday he had no update on the process.
I would anticipate that once the review has been completed, there would not be a significant delay in announcing the results of that review and ultimately making a decision on this project, he said.
read more: http://business.financialpost.com/2015/02/24/obama-to-veto-keystone-xl-approval-bill-tuesday-in-blow-to-pipelines-prospects/?__lsa=23ad-c1a4
related:
from Jan. 9 - Pres. Obama's veto threat isn't the end of Keystone decision; it's a rejection of Congress deciding
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026062723
So, the veto (was) primarily about the 'processes'...I think that's a good thing, unless the end result is some sort of compromise decision by his State Dept. to allow the pipeline to move forward in some way.
But, remember, Pres. Obama's veto threat isn't the end of Keystone decision; it's a rejection of Congress deciding. We need to keep our eyes on the ball.
In January the Nebraska court cleared an obstacle for the Keystone pipeline:
Rejecting arguments from three anti-Keystone landowners, the Nebraska justices upheld a 2012 state law that allowed Republican Gov. Dave Heineman rather than an independent commission to approve Keystones route inside the state. Fridays ruling will let the State Department resume its almost-completed review of the Canada-to-Texas oil pipeline, which the department halted in April amid uncertainty about the Nebraska case.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said in November that the Obama administration was waiting for the Nebraska Supreme Court ruling about the route of the Keystone X-L oil pipeline, before completing an evaluation of the project.
The State Department is examining the courts decision as part of its process to evaluate whether the Keystone XL Pipeline project serves the national interest. As we have made clear, we are going to let that process play out, White House spokesman Eric Schultz said in a written statement.
Mr. Schultz said the president would still veto Keystone legislation pending in Congress if it is sent to him for consideration. Regardless of the Nebraska ruling today, the House bill still conflicts with long-standing executive branch procedures regarding the authority of the president and prevents the thorough consideration of complex issues that could bear on U.S. national interests.
on edit: from PoliticAverse
A Nebraska judge just found their keystone law unconstitutional...
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/02/19/nebraska-judge-law-allowing-keystone-xl-unconstitutional
Also. the State Dept. environmental impact report issued last year actually was seen as an open door (under his own criteria) for Pres. Obama to approve the project.
NYT:
The departments long-awaited environmental impact statement appears to indicate that the project could pass the criteria Mr. Obama set forth in a speech last summer when he said he would approve the 1,700-mile pipeline if it would not significantly exacerbate the problem of greenhouse gas emissions. Although the pipeline would carry 830,000 barrels of oil a day from Canada to the Gulf Coast, the report appears to indicate that if it were not built, carbon-heavy oil would still be extracted at the same rate from pristine Alberta forest and transported to refineries by rail instead.
Another key border-crossing pipeline benefiting tar sands producers was approved in November 2013 by the State Dept.
This veto is certainly welcome, but there's a question, given the narrow definition of the President's opposition to the pipeline which does not equate with most of environmentalists objections to the destructive practice of tar sand extraction of oil, of whether this veto is about his own prerogative in saying yea or nay, or if it represents a definitive opposition to the project in the end. The veto would not end the decision-making process; just prevent Congress from making that decision on its own. The verdict on the pipeline before the end of his term will still loom; not to mention the narrow margin in the Senate which would uphold his veto and the threat of some 'deal' which would move the approval forward.
djean111
(14,255 posts)And, those of us who are afraid he will okay the pipeline will be thrilled to be wrong.
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bigtree
(85,984 posts)...is that this administration has been largely open to approving the pipeline, with the president, thankfully, using his deciding power to delay a decision. Notwithstanding that welcome stalling by the President, there is an institutional momentum which has grown, not diminished, over the period of the decision's delay. To my mind, that portends some sort of compromise decision which would allow the pipeline to move forward.
The best way to prevent that possibility is to keep the pressure on the WH and Congress, not becoming sanguine or complacent in some belief that the political process is on our side. In fact, the deck is actually stacked against opponents with a republican Congress, a State dept. which is run by someone with financial interests in the company who hasn't been as resistant to the project as we would like, and the obvious influence that corporate money has over our political process.
The power over this decision will not just concede voluntarily. That decision needs to be impacted by an unwavering advocacy and protest from opponents. It's just not a case of trusting the President; nothing positive occurs in Washington in a vacuum of indifference and blind trust. I believe this delay, certainly welcome and laudatory, has been a primarily political one by the President. Now, the politics are as uncertain as they've been all along. We need to keep the pressure up and our eye on the ball.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Thanks for the analysis.
I wish he was an all-out environmentalist, but there are too many conflicting interests. And surging masses of people do need fuel, so I understand the pressure.
No, that's not true, I can't imagine what the pressure is like.
You're absolutely right, we can't let up the pressure.
G_j
(40,366 posts)bigtree
(85,984 posts)...keep the pressure on. If nothing else, there's certainly someone in the WH who respects our position enough to provide these political delays.
(How's that for optimism? )
randys1
(16,286 posts)She needs not to come out clearly against it for the obvious reasons and I think Obama has to keep it open partially for the same reasons having to do with her.
Now, if it turns out those reasons are to ultimately approve it, I will be furious.
But I have to think they are not. Or I have to believe it
bigtree
(85,984 posts)...more to do, I think, with the President's own political position and view.
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newfie11
(8,159 posts)Can't you let us delight in stopping the pipeline for a day or two!
I voted twice for this man, honestly I don't recognize what I heard when he was running to what's happened after winning.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)In the end, we always have to push it forward...no difference on this one.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Great just great.
Is it the oil industry doing the environmental impact study for the State Dept still, like when Hillary was SOS?
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Like he did over the Crusades brouhaha.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)do people vote republican?