Do issues matter in the 2012 election, or are demographics destiny?

The past few elections indicate that demographics and location drive electoral outcomes and issues only matter inasmuch as they drive turnout. So, does Obama really need to persuade people to vote for him, or just get the right people to just vote?

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Do issues matter in the 2012 election, or are demographics destiny? (Original post)	RandySF	Apr 2012	OP
The Latter, Sir, is The Whole Of the Political Art Here Nowadays	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#1
So, does Obama really need to persuade people to vote for him	DJ13	Apr 2012	#2
Thank you. I have never seen such vapid, empty campaigns	woo me with science	Apr 2012	#5
I think the republicans have done themselves in ... if one looks at	RKP5637	Apr 2012	#3
Provide compelling reasons for people to vote for AND protect people's access to voting nt	msongs	Apr 2012	#4

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:39 PM

The Magistrate (80,520 posts)

1. The Latter, Sir, is The Whole Of the Political Art Here Nowadays

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:40 PM

DJ13 (21,340 posts)

2. So, does Obama really need to persuade people to vote for him

Nope.

Both sides will be playing the "vote for me so the other guy doesnt become President" game this year.

Its the preferred tactic so voters cant say they expect certain promises to be kept once in office.

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Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:49 AM

woo me with science (19,570 posts)

5. Thank you. I have never seen such vapid, empty campaigns

during a time of desperate national need for concrete solutions.

They know that the 99 percent don't like where they plan to take us, so there are no promises....just a bunch of flags and "the other guy would be worse."

It is an outrage, but it is what happens when we have corporate-selected potential rulers, rather than real representatives.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:47 PM

RKP5637 (25,592 posts)

3. I think the republicans have done themselves in ... if one looks at

their campaign issues, one almost has to loathe themselves to vote republican IMO, unless on the take in the top few percent. On social issues, the republicans want to go backward a few centuries. I guess some people would love that, but not the majority. IMO, Obama, is the only adult.

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Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:41 AM

msongs (30,496 posts)

4. Provide compelling reasons for people to vote for AND protect people's access to voting nt

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