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truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:34 PM Feb 2015

When it is stated that no one has been jailed for crimes of Iraq War era -

I just want to scream.

As one decent person was indeed jailed for illegal activities that came about during that war.

He is John Kiriakou, a man who exposed the ways that torture was being routinely conducted.

No other American has been brought to court and tried for actual crimes, only this one whistle blower.

But recently Democratic Congressman Moran, of Virginia, has asked for a pardon for Kirakou:

More on this story at this tiny url link:
http://tinyurl.com/moh35kr

Or else here if you are good a cutting and pasting long entries:
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/11/20/congressman-criticizes-selective-prosecution-of-cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakou-calls-for-pardon/#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=-&at_pos=6&at_tot=8&at_si=54ea3a6852856864

From the above article:
On the floor of House of Representatives on November 17, Virginia Democratic Representative Jim Moran put forward a stinging rebuke of the “selective prosecution” of former CIA officer and whistleblower John Kiriakou. He asked President Barack Obama to pardon Kiriakou and called the fifteen-year CIA veteran “an American hero.”

Kiriakou was the first member of the CIA to publicly acknowledge that torture was official US policy under President George W. Bush’s administration. He was convicted in October 2012 after he pled guilty to violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (IIPA). He was sentenced to two and a half years in jail in January 2013, and reported to Federal Correctional Institution Loretto in Pennsylvania on February 28, 2013, where he has been serving his sentence. (Firedoglake has been publishing Kiriakou’s letters from prison written as “Letters from Loretto”.)

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When it is stated that no one has been jailed for crimes of Iraq War era - (Original Post) truedelphi Feb 2015 OP
There already are consequences for Iraq malaise Feb 2015 #1
Your statements are especially tragic considering that during truedelphi Feb 2015 #2
No they weren't. EX500rider Feb 2015 #4
Never forget the men in the West have no friends - malaise Feb 2015 #7
Jim is a good man and was my Congressman. John is 1 of only a few national heros of the post-9/11 leveymg Feb 2015 #3
The two films you mentioned got funding when other truedelphi Feb 2015 #10
Hollywood money is as RW as Wall Street leveymg Feb 2015 #11
Saddam enid602 Feb 2015 #5
Actually, that's not the only person jailed. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #6
Thank you for correcting me on my omission. truedelphi Feb 2015 #9
Sad K&R. Overseas Feb 2015 #8

malaise

(268,921 posts)
1. There already are consequences for Iraq
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:37 PM
Feb 2015

No people lie back and tolerate what was done to their own by outsiders in an illegal war and occupation.

Now they're lying about said consequences. In WW2 they would have called them the resistance.

Sadly the neo-cons want perpetual war for profit.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
2. Your statements are especially tragic considering that during
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:40 PM
Feb 2015

WWII, the Iraqi people were our allies.

EX500rider

(10,839 posts)
4. No they weren't.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 05:46 PM
Feb 2015

After Rashid Ali al-Gaylani's coup in 1941 they were axis aligned causing the British to invade with a military occupation lasting till 1947.

malaise

(268,921 posts)
7. Never forget the men in the West have no friends -
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:06 PM
Feb 2015

only self-serving interests.

The Soviet Union was also a Western ally.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. Jim is a good man and was my Congressman. John is 1 of only a few national heros of the post-9/11
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 05:01 PM
Feb 2015

era in my book. The people who got medals are largely war criminals and a disgrace to their country. Those who selectively prosecuted him as retaliation for breaking silence are the worst.

When will Hollywood stop glorifying as heroes psychopathic mass shooters in Special Forces and CIA officers who bear direct responsibility for allowing known terrorists into the United States? The commercial success of propaganda films such as Zero Dark Thirty and American Sniper is symptomatic of a mass schizophrenia in America.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
10. The two films you mentioned got funding when other
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:42 PM
Feb 2015

Films could not be made, due to the lank of financing available during what are tough economic times.

CIA-produced. (Perhaps.)

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
6. Actually, that's not the only person jailed.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 05:53 PM
Feb 2015

Let we forget Lynndie England was sentenced to three years. Utterly ignored was the lack of supervision, inadmissible was the CIA agents who directed the actions. After all, the CIA agent isn't in the chain of command of a soldier, so the Civilian could not legally give orders to the soldier despite being told to do whatever this guy wants by her Officers.

So we sent the tool to prison while ignoring the hand that directed it, or the mind that conceived it.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
9. Thank you for correcting me on my omission.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:40 PM
Feb 2015

Your last sentence is an excellent contribution to the discussion, as that is exactly how we handled it.

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