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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:55 PM

What would you think of the moral values of a person who does this?

The person signs a contract to charge $100.00 for a service. When they begin to provide that service they send a bill for $140 and say that's the market price for the service.
19 votes, 5 passes | Time left: Unlimited
The person has no moral values
19 (100%)
The person has moral values, there is nothing wrong with what they are doing
0 (0%)
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Reply What would you think of the moral values of a person who does this? (Original post)
RB TexLa Apr 2012 OP
Stan Smith Apr 2012 #1
Turbineguy Apr 2012 #2
ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #3
FarPoint Apr 2012 #4
Spazito Apr 2012 #5
FarCenter Apr 2012 #6
COLGATE4 Apr 2012 #8
Frustratedlady Apr 2012 #7
Journeyman Apr 2012 #19
Frustratedlady Apr 2012 #24
Posteritatis Apr 2012 #9
demmiblue Apr 2012 #10
gateley Apr 2012 #11
JVS Apr 2012 #12
LaurenG Apr 2012 #15
ret5hd Apr 2012 #13
OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2012 #14
flvegan Apr 2012 #16
LaurenG Apr 2012 #17
apocalypsehow Apr 2012 #18
Union Scribe Apr 2012 #20
LeftyMom Apr 2012 #21
saras Apr 2012 #22
Kaleva Apr 2012 #27
Synicus Maximus Apr 2012 #23
Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #30
RobertEarl Apr 2012 #25
RB TexLa Apr 2012 #26
RobertEarl Apr 2012 #29
RB TexLa Apr 2012 #32
WillowTree Apr 2012 #34
RB TexLa Apr 2012 #35
Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #28
treestar Apr 2012 #31
apocalypsehow Apr 2012 #33

Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:57 PM

1. Must have been a republican.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:57 PM

2. But the would have

Family Values!

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:58 PM

3. Other: That person has at least one moral value that is different than mine. nt

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:01 PM

4. My feel on this...

The contract superseded the mailed bill. The contractor could say the bill just reflects a cost savings and accept the terms of the agreement.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:03 PM

5. Well, if the contract had as much information as this OP has I would say...

Buyer Beware.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:05 PM

6. It is business. Morals do not apply. Contract law does.

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Response to FarCenter (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:20 PM

8. Absolutely correct. And the contract

calls for payment of $100.00, not $140.00. Victim only has to pay $100.00

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:17 PM

7. Would he have lowered the price if the market price went down?

In your dreams.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:40 PM

19. I do. . .

If the price of materials goes down, or a project proves easier than originally estimated, we charge less for it. It's the correct and proper thing to do. It is, in fact, in keeping with the "golden rule."

Cash register honesty. It's the easiest form of honesty there is.

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:30 PM

24. Good for you, but you are a rarity...unfortunately.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:23 PM

9. Ah, loaded polls, how I've missed you. (nt)

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:25 PM

10. I chose to pass because I feel as if there is some ulterior motive to this post.

Lol, I may be paranoid!

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:28 PM

11. Also no integrity. nt

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:31 PM

12. Could I shoot someone for doing that and claim I was standing my ground?

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Response to JVS (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:44 PM

15. No but you could plainly state that you don't drink with them

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:31 PM

13. Poor RB. Maybe you should have taken that drink when it was offered.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:36 PM

14. I would say it was a health care provider if there were a lot more zeros.

What other business, you go in for service, they won't tell you how much it will cost, your insurance pays them an amount they seem to pull out of their ass, and you get a bill (with no explaination of what you are paying for) for several thousands of dollars that you are expected to pay immediatly?

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:10 PM

16. Never fails to entertain.

Because $40 is ultimately the all-or-nothing item to decide if someone has any moral values whatsoever.

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Response to flvegan (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:19 PM

17. Oh yes!

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:21 PM

18. Before I add my vote, can I ask the larger context of the situation? If you'd prefer not to say,

I'll understand, but it's got my curiosity. Thanks.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:45 PM

20. Take that, lawn guy!

??

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:46 PM

21. Maybe next time you should drink with them.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:48 PM

22. Contract law. Morals aside, the person providing the service is breaking the law.

 

It's also possible for people to have different, incompatible moral systems, of which one isn't always "better" than the other, though sometimes that clearly is the case.

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Response to saras (Reply #22)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:10 PM

27. Not if there a section in the contract that allowed for an increase.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:50 PM

23. I fail to see what this has to do with morals. It is a legal issue not a moral one. If both parties

signed a contract calling for the payment of $100 the fact that the provider is asking for more is not an issue.

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Response to Synicus Maximus (Reply #23)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:15 PM

30. True. If YOU are the person they signed a contract with, they're legally bound by the price.

Unless there are exeptions in the contract that are not vague.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:58 PM

25. Ahh, yes

Defense department contractors, eh?

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #25)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:01 PM

26. Worse, doctors

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:11 PM

29. Single payer is the answer then?

If the government would just make all of us US soldiers, we'd all have health care with government the single payer. Then doctors could be brought under control?

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #29)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:32 PM

32. No, charge more medical providers for fraud and put them in prison.

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #26)

Mon Apr 30, 2012, 01:25 AM

34. Since when do doctors sign contracts guaranteeing their fees up front?

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Response to WillowTree (Reply #34)

Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:16 PM

35. They sign them with preferred provider networks and then bill the insurance

companies more than the agreed amounts.

Of course if they are dishonest with them, you know they are dishonest with their patients.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:07 PM

28. I don't sign contracts with you.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:20 PM

31. The legal values of the person are shaky

If they signed a contract to do it for $100, then they are bound to do it for $100. They can't sue for the extra $40 - they'd have no basis.

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Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:34 AM

33. My reply #18 awaits your perusal (if you haven't seen it) or action (if you have). Thanks. n/t.

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