"When peaceful democratic change is impossible...."

[YoungDemCA]

"...it feeds into the terrorist propaganda that violence is the only answer available."

-President Barack Obama, February 19, 2015.

[randys1]

1. The guy is brilliantly handling the crap from O'Reilly and so on about holy war

How messed up is our country where what Bill O'Reilly says matters as to national discourse?

We are out of control.


Has fox been playing speech after speech by W saying the same things Obama is saying?

Bet not



But as a guest on Lawrence said last night, while W was saying the right things about Muslims, his actions were bombing them, etc.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. John F. Kennedy

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

John F. Kennedy


Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13 March 1962

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=9100

[CanonRay]

8. Excellent quote....thanks!

[hifiguy]

9. One of my all time favorite quotes.

And the truth of it rings true through the years.

[OnyxCollie]

3. Why, then, won't Obama

prosecute Bush/Cheney for torturing detainees to elicit coerced confessions which were used to falsely lead the nation into war?

[jberryhill]

4. One reason would be a very difficult affirmative defense to overcome

In general, if you want to do something and you get an opinion from the attorney general saying, "yeah, you can do that" then that is a solid defense against criminal prosecution for doing what the attorney general said you can do.

That's *why* they had Alberto Gonzales signing opinions from his hospital bed.

The prosecution would be wrapped around that fencepost for a good long time before getting anywhere near a trial.

[Bandit]

5. Gonzales was not the person in a hospital bed they wanted to sign off on their actions

I think it was Ashcroft and he wouldn't sign anything..

[jberryhill]

7. Whatever the details...

...the bottom line is that they will rely on opinions obtained from the AG's office as an affirmative defense.

Whether those opinions were correct, well-founded, or whatever is not particularly relevant to the situation of a defendant who is entitled to rely on an opinion of the AG.

[Brigid]

6. He needs to remember:

Peaceful change is becoming increasingly difficult in this country too.

[hifiguy]

10. Impossible, actually, since the Clintons and their fellow-travelers

sold the Democratic Party to Wall $treet to line their own nests.