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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:11 PM Feb 2015

Chris Hayes Asks: "What Has ‘Killing Our Way Out of It’ Actually Accomplished?"

Chris Hayes Defends Harf: What Has ‘Killing Our Way Out of It’ Actually Accomplished?
by Josh Feldman | 8:34 pm, February 18th, 2015 VIDEO





State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf got in some hot water this week for saying the U.S. can’t simply just “kill our way out of this war” with ISIS. She has since twice defended her comments, and now MSNBC’s Chris Hayes is defending her by saying the U.S. has been trying to “kill our way out” quite often in the past few years, and asked what that has actually accomplished.

Hayes first noted that her remarks “would seem to be obviously true” before playing clips of George W. Bush when he was president. And after playing video of Fox News up in arms over Harf’s remarks, Hayes brought up example after example of the consequences of American action in multiple nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.) before observing, “It seems like we’ve been doing an awful lot of killing our way out of this situation for an awfully long time, and what does the world look like?”

He continued:

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result. So at what point do we say that what the U.S. has been doing for 14 years without cessation is not working?”




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Chris Hayes Asks: "What Has ‘Killing Our Way Out of It’ Actually Accomplished?" (Original Post) kpete Feb 2015 OP
It's working just fine for the defense contractors and war profiteers. Atman Feb 2015 #1
Fourteen years is nothing, an eyeblink.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #2
Killing our way INTO it. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2015 #3
Just like you don't peace at the point of a gun, you don't get Democracy from a pile libdem4life Feb 2015 #4
For reasons I can't quite explain I cannot take Chris Hayes seriously. virgogal Feb 2015 #5
Maybe because he's too serious by far? randome Feb 2015 #7
Isn't it a bit simple minded to think there is an end point to everything we do? randome Feb 2015 #6
Killing. It's what we do, who we are. JEB Feb 2015 #8

Atman

(31,464 posts)
1. It's working just fine for the defense contractors and war profiteers.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:13 PM
Feb 2015

Just sayin. Who cares what we think? We don't control the budget.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. Fourteen years is nothing, an eyeblink..
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:15 PM
Feb 2015

The Drug War has been going on in its modern incarnation since Nixon and you don't see any Very Serious People talking about ending that.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. Killing our way INTO it.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:17 PM
Feb 2015

Nothing ever REALLY seems to change as far as US foreign policy goes, does it?

Hey... remember when the DEFENSE DEPT. used to be called the Dept. Of War?

The change in nomenclature was significant.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. Just like you don't peace at the point of a gun, you don't get Democracy from a pile
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:45 PM
Feb 2015

bombed rubble and dead citizens. The US has "power" cloaked as Peace and Democracy.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Maybe because he's too serious by far?
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:25 PM
Feb 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
6. Isn't it a bit simple minded to think there is an end point to everything we do?
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:23 PM
Feb 2015

Do we expect human trafficking to end someday? Child pornography? You could say the same thing, couldn't you, that our efforts at combating these type of crimes have not been effective?

Washing our hands of the rest of the world won't help. Diplomacy? With ISIS? How could that possibly be realistic?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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