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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:09 PM

The center has been pulled way over to the right - "Their" definition of compromise is conversion.

Last night I watched an interview of Marty Kaplan by Bill Moyers. It opened my eyes like few other interviews. I then set about looking up Marty Kaplan, and found it. It sums up some very crucial ideas about this terrifying time we're living in, in which we've had right wing ideology dominating our lives for the past 32 years.

Here it is:

http://billmoyers.com/content/show-preview-marty-kaplan-on-what-makes-political-ads-work/

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Reply The center has been pulled way over to the right - "Their" definition of compromise is conversion. (Original post)
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 OP
libodem Apr 2012 #1
freshwest Apr 2012 #2
libodem Apr 2012 #4
chowder66 Apr 2012 #3
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #5
fascisthunter Apr 2012 #6
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #11
fascisthunter Apr 2012 #12
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #13
socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #7
libodem Apr 2012 #9
malaise Apr 2012 #8
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #10

Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:22 PM

1. More important than ever to be a critical consumer of the media

Whether written, audio or visual. Someone is profiting by manipulating your intention,.

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Response to libodem (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:37 PM

2. 'Whether written, audio or visual. Someone is profiting by manipulating your intention.' Exactly...

Paid speech vs. unpaid speech.

'The one who pays the fiddler picks the tune.'

Know who owns the voices you are hearing.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:22 PM

4. So true

Marketing of America from research and development through advertising. We are the marks of marketing. Most of us don't gronk that. From products to politics we are being influenced to consume what we are TOLD we need, want, desire or expect.


The take away is be aware of the constant pandering to your emotional centers because most of this shit is irrational.

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 02:07 PM

3. On Real Time w/ Bill Maher Friday - About "moving to the middle"

During a discussion about Austerity in the U.K compared to the U.S. Andrew Ross Sorkin said
Republicans are moving too fast and Democrats are not moving at all. Then Paul Begala said 2 trillion?
And Bill Maher pointed to Paul while looking at Sorkin and said “How is -Democrats cutting- 2 trillion not “at all”?
Then Sorkin said I’m not going to dismiss that but when thinking about the larger issue they ultimately need to get to the middle.

I was kind of mortified by that bit of banter because A) Sorkin did dismiss the 2 trillion in his original argument…. outright (which is part of the problem with getting the information right anymore) and........
B) “they” need to get to the middle (I thought…. the middle is now very far right so NO, it’s not about getting to the middle anymore and that bit of nonsense needs to stop being addressed in that way. The right must move to the left going forward because that is closer to the true middle). It is time to stop saying “the middle” as though it is a fair compromise. It is not.


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Response to chowder66 (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:58 PM

5. They're monsters. nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 07:10 PM

6. Damn Straight.... we, on the left have been saying this for a while now

but the arrogant a-holes in the so-called center, keep trying to pretend there is no such thing happening. Bullshit days are over.

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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:14 PM

11. We all have been bought and sold by the wealthy and corporations nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 30, 2012, 07:58 PM

12. not so willfully

there's the most relevant difference.

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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #12)

Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:46 PM

13. True nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 07:32 PM

7. For the political class that's been bought by the capitalists,.........

this is very true. Not so much for the people though. It's just that what the people want doesn't matter any more TO the political class.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 07:38 PM

9. We turned into old Europe

In less than a generation. We will need a French Revolution just to undo the Patriot Act. Bush fucked us three ways to Sunday.

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 07:35 PM

8. I watched it today

Brilliant

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:13 PM

10. I was impressed too. He hit the nail on the head nt

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