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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:44 AM

Star Member Earth_First (11,613 posts)

Need a[nother] reason to quit smoking?

Any idea where that $7-10 per pack is going?

It's going into the pockets of individuals like John Boehner, George Allen, and Mitt Romney, $17 million in 2011; nearly $5 million already in 2012. Nearly 80% of it is going to top GOP members.

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/lobbying.php?ind=A02++

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/totals.php?cycle=2011&ind=A02

Smoking doesn't support your political viewpoints. Period.

Signed, -15 year smoker, 1 year smoke-free

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Reply Need a[nother] reason to quit smoking? (Original post)
 Earth_First Apr 2012 OP
LineReply One Year For Me As Well...
 KharmaTrain Apr 2012 #1
LineLineReply May I ask which e-cigarette do you use?
 SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #3
LineLineLineReply My brother in law used Volcano E-cigs
 Earth_First Apr 2012 #4
LineLineLineLineReply Thank you!
 SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #7
LineLineLineLineReply Careful With The Disposibles...
 KharmaTrain Apr 2012 #8
LineLineLineLineLineReply Absolutely!
 Earth_First Apr 2012 #9
LineLineLineLineLineReply The refills didn't work for me.
 proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #29
LineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply I Wish You The Best...
 KharmaTrain Apr 2012 #32
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Thanks.
 proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #34
LineLineLineReply The E-Z Go System...
 KharmaTrain Apr 2012 #6
LineLineLineLineReply This would be for my husband. He is three weeks smoke free but it having a hard time of it.
 SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #10
LineLineLineLineLineReply It All Depends On The Individual...
 KharmaTrain Apr 2012 #11
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply Thank you!
 SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #24
LineLineLineLineLineReply Just keep in mind that
 pipoman Apr 2012 #12
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply Three years smoke-free thanks to e-cigs.
 Doremus Apr 2012 #17
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Only someone with reading comprehension issues would interpret my post in that way..
 pipoman Apr 2012 #40
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply I will keep that in mind. Thank you!
 SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #25
LineLineReply 18 months with e-cigs. GreenSmoke.
 Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #22
LineReply Irony---
 trumad Apr 2012 #2
LineReply Congrats to all you butt kickers. I did the stop/start routine
 geckosfeet Apr 2012 #5
LineReply Congratulations on your smoke-free year!
 slackmaster Apr 2012 #13
LineReply I used to smoke a pipe.
 Johnny Noshoes Apr 2012 #14
LineReply a big reason i quit three years ago.
 d_b Apr 2012 #15
LineReply Cold Turkey for 3 years, 5 days. n/t
 Gore1FL Apr 2012 #16
LineReply Hear, hear. I quit a little over two years ago.
 myrna minx Apr 2012 #18
LineReply 7 years smoke-free here...I would like to THANK the families and friends...
 Tikki Apr 2012 #19
LineReply I am a smoker, and it is really nice to read all of your posts. Giving me a little bit of courage.
 robinlynne Apr 2012 #20
LineLineReply No insult intended but...
 randome Apr 2012 #23
LineReply So glad I quit...
 one_voice Apr 2012 #21
LineReply yeah, sure
 RobertEarl Apr 2012 #26
LineLineNew Reply There's gotta be one in every group, right...
 Earth_First Apr 2012 #31
LineReply What if one buys their smokes off the res.?
 lonestarnot Apr 2012 #27
LineReply Four years this month smoke free for me.
 Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #28
LineReply All you quitters (and trying to quitters) rock!
 AllyCat Apr 2012 #30
LineNew Reply Holy drop in the bucket, Batman!
 hughee99 Apr 2012 #33
LineNew Reply same reason not to do drugs in general, legal and illegal. in fact, same reason not to buy
 HiPointDem Apr 2012 #35
LineNew Reply Peacefully puffing on my e-cig as we speak
 LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #36
LineNew Reply You make a very good point. 15 months smoke-free here.
 Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #37
LineNew Reply I quit in 1985 and the idea that it was funding Reagan really helped me!!
 K8-EEE Apr 2012 #38
LineNew Reply I quit
 Meiko Apr 2012 #39

Response to Earth_First (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:51 AM

Star Member KharmaTrain (30,730 posts)

1. One Year For Me As Well...

Last week I passed one year since I had my last cig...after nearly 40 years of smoking and a 2 pack a day habit (no need to do the math...it was a lot of money). I vowed to quit when they hit $1 pack and then $2...but it wasn't until E-Cigarettes came along that I saw a way off that expensive and deadly treadmill. I now spend $10 a week vs. $7 plus a pack and my friends and family have been extremely supportive...they're glad I no longer smell like an ashtray.

The E-Cig has done the trick for me...and I can and do "vape" anywhere and everywhere. As long as you're determined it's a very good "gateway" to quitting. Plus, as you state, you are no longer lining the pockets of right wing asshats.

Congrats on your year of being smoke free!

Cheers

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:57 AM

SammyWinstonJack (35,105 posts)

3. May I ask which e-cigarette do you use?

Thanks in advance.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:04 AM

Star Member Earth_First (11,613 posts)

4. My brother in law used Volcano E-cigs

http://www.volcanoecigs.com/

He purchased two (or three, I cannot remember) of the disposable e-cigs at $7.99. Supposedly two packs per unit. By time he was finished with them he had quit no problem, almost a year smoke-free himself now...

I used a couple of these to cut back on my own personal intake before I quit when I did a lot of overnight driving for work, they were amazingly useful.

They are out of Hawaii, however their shipping is lightning fast, three days to the east coast using standard shipping.

It's a lot cheaper going the disposable route, versus the large initial investment of the refillable vaporizers.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:13 AM

SammyWinstonJack (35,105 posts)

7. Thank you!

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:13 AM

Star Member KharmaTrain (30,730 posts)

8. Careful With The Disposibles...

I tried those initially...and found the e-cigs they sell at gas stations to be inferior in both durability and "smoking quality" than my EZ Go refillable. While the initial investment for the refilables are higher, in the long run I like having the reliability which has been important in my being able to rely solely on the E-cigs.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:16 AM

Star Member Earth_First (11,613 posts)

9. Absolutely!

I would ebb on the side of caution on the 'gas station' disposables, howerver; I can personally vouch for the disposables from volcanoecigs...

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:23 AM

Star Member proud2BlibKansan (96,387 posts)

29. The refills didn't work for me.

Spent a lot of money on 2 different kinds. Both broke within a week. One wouldn't charge and the other was clogged - couldn't inhale.

So I am back to really quitting, not inhaling anything.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:32 PM

Star Member KharmaTrain (30,730 posts)

32. I Wish You The Best...

I had a bit of a learning curve but within a couple months I found what worked best. A lot of this is determination...I wanted to quit for a long time but still enjoyed the smoking sensation. This was the best of all possible world for me thus the incentive to make it work.

Here's hoping you're able to be successful...if only to put a lot of money back in your pockets and not into the coffers of big tobacco.

Cheers...

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:55 PM

Star Member proud2BlibKansan (96,387 posts)

34. Thanks.

It's a process. Slowly but surely I'll get there.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:09 AM

Star Member KharmaTrain (30,730 posts)

6. The E-Z Go System...

I get my supplies from a place called the Vapor Pro...very good on having materials in stock and quick delivery. The initial set up (the battery, carborator and fluid is about $60) and you can get the fluid in many flavors and levels of nicotine. I keep two "pacifiers" with me and that lasts me all day...

Good luck!


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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:16 AM

SammyWinstonJack (35,105 posts)

10. This would be for my husband. He is three weeks smoke free but it having a hard time of it.

Maybe e-cigs would make his quiting easier?


Thank you!

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:29 AM

Star Member KharmaTrain (30,730 posts)

11. It All Depends On The Individual...

...and their need/desire to quit. I'd suggest getting a "starter" e-cig or have him investigate the system itself. There's an excellent message board http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ that has all sorts of information about the best systems out there.

In my case, if it weren't for my e-cig I'd still be sucking on the cancer sticks. In many ways I feel like I'm "cheating" as I can still "puff" away when I'm working or watching TV and no one cares. I also use it when I'm driving and with no smell it doesn't bother others. I've been suprised at how supportive my family and friends have been and accepting of my new "habit".

I wish both of you the best of luck...I'm very glad I was able to switch to e-cigs and feel many advantages. I hope it helps him as well.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:18 AM

SammyWinstonJack (35,105 posts)

24. Thank you!

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:30 AM

Star Member pipoman (10,401 posts)

12. Just keep in mind that

e-cigs are simply replacing one nicotine form for another. The e-cigs don't have the other harmful properties of cigarettes, but they are still an addiction. If he is 3 weeks smoke free without nicotine, this could be a step backward. Better than smoking again, but if he can endure the nicotine withdrawal a little longer, he may be able to be completely nicotine free. I used OTC lozenges, nicotine causes capillary restriction, my hands tingled until I quit nicotine altogether.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:58 AM

Star Member Doremus (5,144 posts)

17. Three years smoke-free thanks to e-cigs.

30+year heavy smoker (2+ packs/day). Patches, cold turkey, cutting down, nothing worked. I literally could barely breathe anymore, and each year that passed my health got a little worse.

E-cigs worked, thank god, or I have no doubt I wouldn't be physically able to sit here and type this today.

When people ask about my e-cig, most are congratulatory and excited to tell someone they love that there's a new tool to save their life. Maybe one in 20 people respond in the pessimistic, scolding manner of your post.

I'm appreciative they are in a tiny minority.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 03:09 PM

Star Member pipoman (10,401 posts)

40. Only someone with reading comprehension issues would interpret my post in that way..

Maybe one in 20 people respond in the pessimistic, scolding manner of your post.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:18 AM

SammyWinstonJack (35,105 posts)

25. I will keep that in mind. Thank you!

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:14 AM

Star Member Tierra_y_Libertad (36,303 posts)

22. 18 months with e-cigs. GreenSmoke.

After 50 years of smoking.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:54 AM

Star Member trumad (34,452 posts)

2. Irony---

Both will kill you earlier.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:06 AM

Star Member geckosfeet (8,810 posts)

5. Congrats to all you butt kickers. I did the stop/start routine

years ago. Been smoke free for 30 years.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:30 AM

slackmaster (60,567 posts)

13. Congratulations on your smoke-free year!

 

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:53 AM

Star Member Johnny Noshoes (1,507 posts)

14. I used to smoke a pipe.

Last edited Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:54 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Also the occasional very expensive cigar. I quit nearly 30 years ago - cold turkey. The funny thing is a couple of weeks or so after I quit I went to drink some milk and thought it tasted funny until I realized that my sense of taste had gone back to normal and that was how milk was SUPPOSED to taste. I had a bad case of pneumonia back when I was 40 and ever since then I couldn't smoke even if I wanted to - hell really cold air in winter is a killer forget smoking.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:57 AM

Star Member d_b (6,674 posts)

15. a big reason i quit three years ago.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:57 AM

Star Member Gore1FL (11,690 posts)

16. Cold Turkey for 3 years, 5 days. n/t

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:02 AM

Star Member myrna minx (20,537 posts)

18. Hear, hear. I quit a little over two years ago.

Last edited Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:02 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

I'm no longer paying Republicans to kill both me and my country by buying cigarettes.

I smoked for over 20 years and quit cold turkey.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:05 AM

Star Member Tikki (9,621 posts)

19. 7 years smoke-free here...I would like to THANK the families and friends...

who come on-board and help the smoker as he/she is quitting.

My son and I quit same time and our SO's were an amazing help.



Tikki

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:11 AM

Star Member robinlynne (15,172 posts)

20. I am a smoker, and it is really nice to read all of your posts. Giving me a little bit of courage.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:15 AM

Star Member randome (12,790 posts)

23. No insult intended but...

...if you brush your teeth often or drink orange juice frequently, that helps temper the need to light up.

I quit about a dozen times until it finally took hold about 20 years ago. Once you've passed a certain time -and it's different for everyone- you know you can never go back.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:13 AM

Star Member one_voice (11,040 posts)

21. So glad I quit...

31 year smoker. Quit in Sept. 2010.

I will also stop buying jelly bellies, cuz they donate to the GOP too. Good thing I only bought them occasionally.

I know there are other things out there, will do what I can as I find out.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:19 AM

RobertEarl (2,934 posts)

26. yeah, sure

And do you know every time you use electricity you are giving money to nuke plants that are putting radiation into the air which makes everyone sick? Of course you did. Or now you do.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:02 PM

Star Member Earth_First (11,613 posts)

31. There's gotta be one in every group, right...

Congrats! You're THAT person...

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:19 AM

Star Member lonestarnot (71,135 posts)

27. What if one buys their smokes off the res.?

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:22 AM

Star Member Starry Messenger (21,473 posts)

28. Four years this month smoke free for me.

Quitting caused me to ramp up my posting at DU. Sorry everyone, lol.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:28 AM

Star Member AllyCat (7,526 posts)

30. All you quitters (and trying to quitters) rock!

That is a boatload of money for these goons.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:41 PM

hughee99 (10,122 posts)

33. Holy drop in the bucket, Batman!

The state of Massachusetts alone made an estimated $444 million in tobacco taxes 2010. That money was spent on a whole bunch of things I supported (like schools and medicare). If John Boehner and Mitt Romney get a couple of bucks so that some of our schools don't have to lay off more teachers, I'm willing to accept that. FAR more of that 7-10$ per pack ends up in the hands of the governments (local, state and federal) than in the hands of those who produce the product.

There are many reasons to quit smoking, this one is just pretty weak.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 01:59 PM

HiPointDem (17,227 posts)

35. same reason not to do drugs in general, legal and illegal. in fact, same reason not to buy

Last edited Sun Apr 29, 2012, 02:00 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

much of anything and not to hold a job where someone's making profit off your back or where you are enforcing the rules and world view of the ruling class -- which is most jobs.

"the economy" is run by them, and for their benefit.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 02:22 PM

Star Member LadyHawkAZ (3,922 posts)

36. Peacefully puffing on my e-cig as we speak

refillable cartridges and VG-based refill liquid. Yum.

Congrats on your smoke-free year!

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 02:25 PM

Star Member Arkansas Granny (14,670 posts)

37. You make a very good point. 15 months smoke-free here.

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 02:41 PM

Star Member K8-EEE (15,667 posts)

38. I quit in 1985 and the idea that it was funding Reagan really helped me!!

Somebody told me the relationship between GOP & big tobacco it really helped!

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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 02:56 PM

Meiko (1,076 posts)

39. I quit

 

in 1980, cold turkey and it wasn't fun.

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