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Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:00 PM

Elizabeth Edwards was a DUer.

Just sayin'.

Fuck that guy.

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Reply Elizabeth Edwards was a DUer. (Original post)
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 OP
dkf Apr 2012 #1
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #2
calimary Apr 2012 #57
trumad Apr 2012 #67
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #69
trumad Apr 2012 #76
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #77
trumad Apr 2012 #78
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #80
trumad Apr 2012 #81
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #82
trumad Apr 2012 #83
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #89
Rex Apr 2012 #91
TheManInTheMac Apr 2012 #3
Bake Apr 2012 #10
sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #4
Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #13
Paper Roses Apr 2012 #29
SCantiGOP Apr 2012 #32
redqueen Apr 2012 #41
jeff47 Apr 2012 #47
Chan790 Apr 2012 #52
Vanje Apr 2012 #54
Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #61
Lawlbringer Apr 2012 #5
magical thyme Apr 2012 #6
bigwillq Apr 2012 #7
hlthe2b Apr 2012 #9
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #15
hfojvt Apr 2012 #17
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #18
hfojvt Apr 2012 #21
Texasgal Apr 2012 #93
TheWraith Apr 2012 #37
CJCRANE Apr 2012 #38
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #40
snooper2 Apr 2012 #44
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #55
CJCRANE Apr 2012 #72
mzmolly Apr 2012 #64
hfojvt Apr 2012 #94
hlthe2b Apr 2012 #8
mzmolly Apr 2012 #97
leveymg Apr 2012 #11
progressoid Apr 2012 #12
Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #14
RebelOne Apr 2012 #51
dembotoz Apr 2012 #16
frylock Apr 2012 #45
DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #19
cali Apr 2012 #20
DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #24
cali Apr 2012 #27
DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #34
Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #22
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #79
Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #86
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #87
Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #90
hfojvt Apr 2012 #23
cali Apr 2012 #28
jeff47 Apr 2012 #46
closeupready Apr 2012 #25
tkmorris Apr 2012 #30
closeupready Apr 2012 #33
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #39
closeupready Apr 2012 #42
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #49
closeupready Apr 2012 #62
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #63
snooper2 Apr 2012 #65
snooper2 Apr 2012 #59
lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #26
mmonk Apr 2012 #31
pecwae Apr 2012 #35
Hissyspit Apr 2012 #36
Rex Apr 2012 #43
mahina Apr 2012 #48
hlthe2b Apr 2012 #50
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #53
mulsh Apr 2012 #56
cali Apr 2012 #58
mulsh Apr 2012 #92
HiPointDem Apr 2012 #60
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #66
HiPointDem Apr 2012 #85
cali Apr 2012 #68
Rex Apr 2012 #73
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #75
inna Apr 2012 #70
inna Apr 2012 #71
Rex Apr 2012 #74
inna Apr 2012 #96
kenny blankenship Apr 2012 #84
WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #88
BlueIris Apr 2012 #95

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:01 PM

1. Being a cheating lying creep isn't a criminal offense.

 

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:02 PM

2. Neither is being an asshole

Apparently.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:17 PM

57. Truly. Just look at newt gingrich and john mccain, both of whom threw over sick or injured wives

for something younger, prettier, leggy-er, and blonder.

But then again, if you want just plain ol' assholes, look at just about anybody with an "R" after their names.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:59 PM

67. Or a Patriot's fan

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Response to trumad (Reply #67)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:03 PM

69. Depends on who you ask.

Douche.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #69)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:27 PM

76. Bag

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Response to trumad (Reply #76)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:29 PM

77. Ban this man.

!!!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #77)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:29 PM

78. You working tonight?

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Response to trumad (Reply #78)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:31 PM

80. Thank God, no.

Why?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #80)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:35 PM

81. I'm concerned about your social life..

I want you to have fun.

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Response to trumad (Reply #81)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:41 PM

82. This isn't fun?

You mean there's life outside of DU?

Tell me more...

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #82)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:43 PM

83. ok

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Response to trumad (Reply #83)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:58 PM

89. Die.

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Response to trumad (Reply #83)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:07 PM

91. My God that is

horrible...

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:03 PM

3. Stealing campaign funds is, though.

And every person (many of them DUers) who donated is a victim.

So, yeah, what Will said.

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Response to TheManInTheMac (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:33 PM

10. And if The State proves beyond a reasonable doubt that he did that, he should go to prison

If not, he's just a lying cheating jerk.

Bake

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:04 PM

4. Elizabeth Edwards is not John Edwards.

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:56 PM

13. It is if you take my money and use it to build a cozy house for yourself.

Can't believe it. I never, I mean never give big money to politicians. And the one time I do, BANG, he turns out to be John Edwards.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:53 PM

29. Same here. Makes me mad as heck. n/t

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:59 PM

32. I agree. Baitball

My wife and I couldn't decide who to vote for in the SC primary. Congressman Clyburn (minority whip) has a big fish fry every election year on the eve of the state convention. All 8 candidates were there, so we personally spoke to four of them, including Obama. The final debate was the Saturday before the Tuesday vote, and we both decided that, based on the moving speech Edwards gave about poverty, that he deserved our vote even though he didn't appear to have a chance.
What really pissed us off later was thinking: What if he had locked up the nomination before the scandal came out? That might have damaged the party so badly that the replacement candidate would have been unelectable. That is unforgivable.
BTW, after the SC vote, I switched to Obama while my wife joined the Clinton camp. We both enthusiastically supported and worked for Obama after he secured the nomination.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:33 PM

41. +1

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:45 PM

47. If it's any consolation, your money didn't.

The trial is over funds from a single "donor". The case is over whether they were political donations or not political donations.

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:00 PM

52. Misdirection.

Misuse of campaign funds outside of FEC guidelines and expenditures reporting is a criminal offense. So is filing a fraudulent FEC report. He allegedly used campaign funds illegally and now stands trial for it. He allegedly filed a fraudulent expenditures report with the Federal Elections Commission and now stands trial for it.

Trying to distract from that by referring to it as "being a cheating lying creep" is a disingenuous attempt at misdirection. Political slight-of-hand, if you will. It's an interesting attempt to frame a criminal lapse as an ethical lapse in order to portray John Edwards as not criminally-culpable and reduce the severity of his infractions in the public opinion by applying language which, while negative, does not carry connotations of illegality.

Misappropriation of campaign funds is illegal.
Nobody has ever gone to jail for being a creep.

Frame his infraction as the second rather than the first and you sway public opinion.

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:03 PM

54. How about

using your campaign funds to keep your concubine in a luxurious mansion?

I have a low income. I donated as much as I could afford to Edwards Campaign, then I donated more. It REALLY PISSES ME OFF to consider how Edwards treated my hard-earned donation.

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:31 PM

61. Misuse of campaign funds isn't a criminal offense?

You better call the prosecution ASAP before they go any further with this trial then.

And allow me to posit some confusion while I have your attention. You seem to post in favor a lot of RW policies, which doesn't quite mesh with a nonsensical defense of Edwards being pure as the driven snow. What gives? Just a devil's advocate thing going on?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:09 PM

5. Was she really?

Or do you mean it in a symbolic sense? Stuff like that fascinates me.

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Response to Lawlbringer (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:11 PM

6. yes, she was

she posted here under her own name and I believe also at some point under a pseudonym.

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Response to Lawlbringer (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:11 PM

7. Yes. She had an account (nt)

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Response to Lawlbringer (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:13 PM

9. No... she absolutely did post here. BTW, Wes Clark's son did too...

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Response to Lawlbringer (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:01 PM

15. She was indeed.

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Response to Lawlbringer (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:09 PM

17. not really

she posted here a few times back in 2004 or something. Had maybe 20 posts, or 40 tops. So she wasn't a DUer in the sense that I am a DUer, williampitt is a DUer, H20man is a DUer, or even WaltStarr or HannahBell or NSMA were Duers. How much lurking she did, if she posted here under a pseudonym, it's kinda hard to tell (although I am sure EarlG or homeland security could find out )

It was certainly cool that she was here for a time, but to actially be a DUer (in my eyes) she'd have had to actually stay and be active, and that did not happen.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:12 PM

18. It used to be against DU rules

to criticize DUers for having low post counts.

x

*sigh*

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:24 PM

21. that isn't what I did

and a DUer with a low post count would be somebody who registered in 2004 and posted a little bit, and then read a lot and then posted again in 2006 ... EE didn't do that. Although, like I said, I have no idea how much she read after she seemingly stopped posting. Maybe she kept reading the greatest threads, and certain journals, etc.

She didn't however, remain an active DUer the way you and I (et. al.) have.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:54 PM

93. She may have been a lurker

I know I lurked for years before I signed up.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:23 PM

37. A lot of stuff happens here that used to be against the rules.

And not for the better.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:28 PM

38. She's a DUer to me. Her words brought great comfort to many of us.

Anyone who's posted here and made an impression big or small is a DUer IMHO.

There are DUers who posted here ten years ago when I joined that I still remember.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #38)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:30 PM

40. "Anyone who's posted here and made an impression big or small is a DUer"

+1

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #40)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:36 PM

44. including freeper trolls?

ROFL, I thought this post would be picture worthy so I googled freeper troll and this is the first image


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Response to snooper2 (Reply #44)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:04 PM

55. If they brought as much in a short time as E.E. did

Yes.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #44)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:19 PM

72. Yes, I still remember

some of the notorious disruptors fondly* and I'm sure other DUers do too. And I'll wager beer and travel money on that!



A DUer is a DUer, both the great and not-so-great, both the sublime and the ridiculous.

*ETA: And some of them not-so-fondly, but they're all part of DU's colorful story.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:57 PM

64. She had many more posts under her pseudonym - 38,144

to be exact.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #64)

Sat Apr 28, 2012, 02:58 AM

94. really, and what was that pseudonym?

Could that mean I unknowingly argued with her?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:12 PM

8. I just feel for their kids...

It is only for that reason that I wish this would just get resolved quickly and with far less media sensationalism. After Melanie Sloan and CREW came out to denounce what they claim to be overcharging on the finance issues, I had to question a bit as well.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 03:50 PM

97. Agreed.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:35 PM

11. If Sleeze was a crime, the federal prisons would be bursting with pols.

Compared to the mass murder, election stealing, and war crimes committed by some of his contemporaries still running around Scott Free, Edwards is just a Sleezy Li'l Shit. Not worth bending the election laws to prosecute him.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:55 PM

12. Wish she still was.

I met her during the campaign. Such a lovely person.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:59 PM

14. I remember the first time she posted here.

She didn't have enough posts to start a new thread, so she posted in an existing one. Skinner quickly fixed that problem.

Very sad. Cancer is tragic enough, even without having to deal with a lying, cheating, dirtbag of a husband.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:58 PM

51. I remember also. n/t

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:05 PM

16. what ever you think of her husband remember--he was the one who talked about poor folks

and with assholes like paul ryan out there
i wish he was still around


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Response to dembotoz (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:36 PM

45. and that's why i voted for him in the CA primary..

yep. dropped my absentee in the mail the night before he dropped out.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:13 PM

19. Some of you may have known Elizabeth Edwards personally.

I didn't. She seemed like a good person when I saw her interviewed on television and I have no reason at all to think she was not all that and more. But I have no idea what her relationship was with her husband. I have no idea what kind of a home life they had or what kind of living arrangements they had. I have no problem at all with you or anyone else making such assumptions and I don't think John Edwards deserves otherwise. I just always refrain from judging anyone else's personal life when I really have no idea about the situation. Bill Clinton cheated on his wife and lied about it. Fuck that guy, too, right?

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:23 PM

20. Elisabeth Edwards made quite clear that they did not have any

kind of arrangement that enabled him to screw other women with her blessing. But leave that aside. We knew what we were getting with Bill Clinton. Genifer Flowers, anyone? JE pontificated about the sanctity of marriage and opined that that was why he couldn't accept marriage equality. In addition, much as some of us may have despised Clinton's behavior, the repubs trying to impeach him resulted in dem circling of the wagons.

Oh, and Clinton's wife wasn't dying of cancer.

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Response to cali (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:43 PM

24. Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act

I'd say that would rank up there with "pontificating" in my book. But that's fine. That seems to be the trouble you get into when you start judging other people. Those you like you have an excuse for, those you don't... well, you don't. And I'm not at all suggesting anyone had "an arrangement", I'm simply saying that I don't claim to know or want to know what is happening in someone else's bedroom. That goes for people I like as well as people I don't.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #24)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:47 PM

27. One more time: Clinton never pretended that his

marriage was so holy that he couldn't endorse marriage equality.

And guess what? We ALL (yes I mean you) judge other people. All of us.

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Response to cali (Reply #27)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:17 PM

34. I will respectfully disagree

I can honestly say that I do not judge situations that I know nothing about. And since I know nothing about what goes on in the houses of people I have never met, I simply don't judge personal behavior regarding who cheated on whom or who was at fault in a divorce or anything like that. I wasn't in the bedroom with them. I have no idea who the "good guy" is. A woman runs off and leaves her husband and kids. I could say "what an asshole", but maybe her husband has berated her daily for the last 20 years. Maybe I should applaud her for leaving. My position is, I don't have any idea what goes on in someone else's house, so I choose not to form an opinion. Now if there are facts involved, like domestic violence or some other criminal act or a public statement that is clearly a lie, then, yes, I will judge that behavior. Things I know I can judge. I'm not pulling a Jesus here. I'm not telling you or anyone else not to judge John Edwards for his sex life. It's a free country, sort of. I just pointed out why I don't.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:31 PM

22. Off topic Will

Did you send me a tweet yesterday?

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:29 PM

79. The fuckhead who hacked my account did.

I hope you didn't click the link that came with the tweet.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #79)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:48 PM

86. Twitter had already deleted it before I saw it

This is the message that came from your account:
Hello someone is making nasty things about you

Then I clicked it and got this:
URL Terminated

The TinyURL (c5x6zfe) you visited was used by its creator in violation of our terms of use. TinyURL has a strict no abuse policy and we apologize for the intrusion this user has caused you. Such violations of our terms of use include:

Spam - Unsolicited Bulk E-mail
Fraud or Money Making scams
Malware
or any other use that is illegal.

If you received spam, please note that TinyURL did not send this spam and we do not operate any email lists. We can not remove you from spammer's database as we have no association with spammers, but instead we recommend you use spam filtering software.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #86)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:56 PM

87. "Hello someone is making nasty things about you"

...was the title of the heack-sent message. It came with a bit.url link that, if clicked, fucks your Twitter account like mine was fucked.

People need better hobbies.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #87)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:04 PM

90. No doubts!

Although I had to say I was a little flattered you tweeted me...until I realized you had no way in hell to know it was me!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:35 PM

23. "I think Morpheus means more to me than he does to you ...

and if you are serious about saving him, you are going to need my help ..." Trinity

Much as I love EE (I still have a three inch button that says "Elizabeth Edwards for first lady") I think she meant far more to John than she does to me. And that he wishes she was still alive. If she was still alive, I don't think she would be saying "fuck that guy". I don't think she showed that kind of acrimony to the man she was with, and presumably loved, for a long time.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:48 PM

28. she kicked him out.

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Response to cali (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:43 PM

46. Such things are not always permanent

Unfortunately, there wasn't time to see if they could "work things out".

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:45 PM

25. She wasn't a very nice person.

Neither is John, but based upon what I've read, she wasn't a person who people here should emulate.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:55 PM

30. First I've heard of that claim

Care to share what makes you say that?

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #30)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:06 PM

33. Well I know she had a good side, but for example,

during the campaign, she blurted during a conference call, "If we (meaning she and John) don't get health care, nobody does." (Paraphrasing.)

There are other examples.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #33)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:29 PM

39. "There are other examples."

Provide, please. Your first one was gibberish.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #39)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:34 PM

42. Take it up with "Vanity Fair".

They did a story about her and her nastiness in 2008, I believe.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #42)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:53 PM

49. I'm taking it up with you, since you brought it to the table

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #49)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:31 PM

62. Did you read the Vanity Fair piece?

??

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Response to closeupready (Reply #62)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:37 PM

63. Did you provide a link to it when you used it as convincing evidence?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #39)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:57 PM

65. I found the data you requested

See post #59

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #30)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:25 PM

59. There’s something terribly creepy about reading the scene in a private jet hangar

as Elizabeth Edwards despairingly tears off her shirt in front of her husband and his campaign staffers. Yick. (You can read the excerpt in Helieman’s native publication.) But the rubbernecking impulse is nearly irresistible, from one campaign tableau to the next.Even though we already sort of know the Clintons sling grenades tucked neatly inside their campaign mud, it’s fascinating to get inside Bill’s head during his rough, Nixonian ("I am not a racist.") treatment of Obama. Exactly who made Hillary, woman and candidate of steel, cry that morning at the diner? The lead-up to the Clintons' end-game endorsement of Obama is captivating, because so many people think it won't happen, party bonds being as delicate as pride.

The biggest hook in Game Change goes right back to the absolutely bizarre story of the Edwardses—John’s vanity and self-obsession (and simultaneous lack of self-awareness); Elizabeth’s incredibly, suddenly fraught life; Rielle Hunter’s utter whackjob-ness; and how things spun out of control for all of them. Most readers will just shake their heads in disbelief that a groupie managed to infiltrate the ranks of what was briefly a well-oiled campaign machine. What seems unfair is the unsympathetic insider characterization of Elizabeth Edwards as “an abusive, intrusive, paranoid, condescending crazywoman.” A cancer-stricken wife whose megalomaniacal husband embarks on an affair with a sycophantic nut seems warranted in her bitchery.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/01/game-change-the-book-about-the-raciest-race-ever


http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=9922158#page:showThread,9922158,2

With her husband, she could be intensely affectionate or brutally dismissive. At times subtly, at times blatantly, she was forever letting John know that she regarded him as her intellectual inferior. She called her spouse a “hick” in front of other people and derided his parents as rednecks. One time, when a friend asked if John had read a certain book, Elizabeth burst out laughing. “Oh, he doesn’t read books,” she said. “I’m the one who reads books.”

During the 2004 race, Elizabeth badgered and berated John’s advisers around the clock. She called Nick Baldick, his campaign manager, an idiot. She accused David Axelrod, his (and later Obama’s) media consultant, of lying to her and insisted that he be stripped of the responsibility for making the campaign’s TV ads. She would stay up late scouring the Web, pulling down negative stories and blog items about her husband, forwarding them with vicious messages to the communications team. She routinely unleashed profanity-laced tirades on conference calls. “Why the fuck do you think I’d want to go sit outside a Wal-Mart and hand out leaflets?” she snarled at the schedulers.

Elizabeth’s illness seemed at first to mellow her in the early months of 2005—but not for long. One day, she was on a conference call with the staffers of One America, the political-action committee that was being turned into a vehicle for John’s 2008 bid. There were 40 or 50 people on the line, mostly kids in their twenties being paid next to nothing (and in some cases literally nothing). Elizabeth had been cranky throughout the call, but at the end she asked if her and her husband’s personal health-care coverage had been arranged. Not yet, she was told. There are complications; let’s discuss it after the call. Elizabeth was having none of that. She flew into a rage.

If this isn’t dealt with by tomorrow, everyone’s health care at the PAC will be cut off until it’s fixed, she barked. I don’t care if nobody has health care until John and I do!



Couple quick google searches, I guess it all came from that "Game Change" book and also some Vanity Fair pieces

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:46 PM

26. She would have made us proud as a First Lady.




Too bad she got hooked up with wutsizname.


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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:57 PM

31. Yep, she was.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:18 PM

35. K&R in Elizabeth's memory. nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:20 PM

36. Edwards prosecutor is a Bush holdover Republican

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:34 PM

43. Really? Did not know that thanks!

I have no sympathy for her Ex.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:47 PM

48. word.

What a worm.

Aloha Elizabeth, wherever you are.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:55 PM

50. Here's a link to a post of hers following the lost election...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2604461

ElizabethEdwards Donating Member (29 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Nov-05-04 08:32 AM
Original message
From Elizabeth Edwards

Since I cannot start a thread (which I think is a good rule by the way), I have to hijack one -- at least briefly. I do want this thread to continue on, though, because the topic is so important. (Moderators can feel free to move this, of course.)

But I also had something I wanted to say to all of you. You know that I read DU and have for quite some time, long before any of you knew my name. I really appreciate the support you have given me on this latest hurdle and before. It means a lot to me and to John.

Now that I have more time, I will post some, too. But today I want to share something inspiring, part of a letter from Thomas Jefferson. This is from the new Bernstein biography of Jefferson. Jefferson sent the letter in 1798 after the passage of the Sedition Act:

"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."




RIP, Elizabeth. You are missed.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #50)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:00 PM

53. Well done.



Thanks.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:13 PM

56. Do any of us know much about the most intimate aspects of the Edward's relationship?

I ask because I've been related to at least four couples where one of them has eventually died from cancer. I was privy to lots of details only those closest to people in that situation can know. Not everything, of course, but enough to have seen at least one person carry on an affair with the other person's "blessing". (one of my set of grandparents)

As far as the Edwards go I have no idea what they discussed or agreed to or how any one in that family dealt with Mrs. Edwards conditions. I know a little of what those involved have made public. That's why I'm not passing any judgement on John Edwards or Elisabeth Edwards.

And yes, I not only remember Elizabeth Edwards was a DUer I enjoyed and miss her posts.

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Response to mulsh (Reply #56)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:21 PM

58. yes. we know quite a bit.

she discussed the affair on TV appearances, for one thing.

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Response to cali (Reply #58)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:32 PM

92. Thanks,here's a link to an article Elizabth Edwards wrote

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1896772,00.html.

I read a couple of other articles but this coming straight from Mrs. Edwards.

I avoided reading about this matter at the time. I haven't read anything much from John or Elizabeth on this matter. I don't care much about what goes on in other folks marriages. Even politicians who's views I agree with.

I'm married, I don't cheat on my wife. When I had girl friends I didn't cheat on them. Those are my choices. I don't admire people who are in any committed relationship who cheat but that's their choice. P

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:28 PM

60. The vituperation from certain segments of the democratic party this long after the fact

 

gives me pause.

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #60)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:58 PM

66. "certain segments"?

Care to elaborate?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #66)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:44 PM

85. nothing to elaborate. all that was meant was that the vituperation isn't universal,

 

just coming from *some* democrats.

no speculation intended on possible motivations or affiliations. i haven't looked into it. but the (what i consider to be out of proportion) continuing wrath makes me interested.

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #60)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:00 PM

68. what if some of were strongly anti-Edwards all along?

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #60)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:22 PM

73. Thank you for your concern.

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Response to Rex (Reply #73)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:23 PM

75. +1

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:08 PM

70. deplorable post (nt)

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:16 PM

71. and I'm sure EE would find this OP appalling

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Response to inna (Reply #71)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:23 PM

74. I disagree.

nt.

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Response to Rex (Reply #74)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:33 AM

96. i'm sure you do

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:44 PM

84. So was OMC.

I've encountered some great people here at DU. And I've also met with a few that remind me distinctly of Bush's "backwash".

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Response to kenny blankenship (Reply #84)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:57 PM

88. You're comparing Elizabeth Edwards to OMC.

Not a question. A statement.

Feel free to elaborate if you can.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Sat Apr 28, 2012, 04:32 AM

95. He's not my favorite Democrat,

but bashing him is beneath me.

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