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I remember this whenever Jeb starts spouting about what a moderate he is. Or when others portray him that way.
Jeb Put Me Through Hell
Michael Schiavo at home. "He should be ashamed," Schiavo said of Jeb Bush. "To bring as much pain as he did, to me and my family, that should be an issue." | Maggie Steber/Redux for POLITICO Magazine
It was a living hell, he said, and I blame him.
Michael Schiavo was the husband of Terri Schiavo, the brain-dead woman from the Tampa Bay area who ended up at the center of one of the most contentious, drawn-out conflicts in the history of Americas culture wars. The fight over her death lasted almost a decade. It started as a private legal back-and-forth between her husband and her parents. Before it ended, it moved from circuit courts to district courts to state courts to federal courts, to the U.S. Supreme Court, from the state legislature in Tallahassee to Congress in Washington. The president got involved. So did the pope.
But it never would have become what it became if not for the dogged intervention of the governor of Florida at the time, the second son of the 41st president, the younger brother of the 43rd, the man who sits near the top of the extended early list of likely 2016 Republican presidential candidates. On sustained, concentrated display, seen in thousands of pages of court records and hundreds of emails he sent, was Jeb the converted Catholic, Jeb the pro-life conservative, Jeb the hands-on workaholic, Jeb the all-hours emailerconfident, competitive, powerful, obstinate Jeb. Longtime watchers of John Ellis Bush say what he did throughout the Terri Schiavo case demonstrates how he would operate in the Oval Office. They say its the Jebbest thing Jebs ever done.
If you want to understand Jeb Bush, hes guided by principle over convenience....He may be wrong about something, but he knows what he believes.
Those are the words of Dennis Baxley who was one of the most conservative legislators ever.
SO...even though Jeb is wrong about something it is okay because he believes it strongly. That is a pathetic excuse for ignorance.
Long article, hard to limit to just a few paragraphs. The worst is how Jeb continued attacking Michael Schiavo even after Terri's death.
Today, looking back, what makes Felos, the attorney for Michael Schiavo, angriest about the case is Bushs letter to McCabe. Even after 18 months of legal wrangling, even after her death, even after the autopsyafter all thatthe governor asked a prosecutor to initiate a retroactive criminal investigation of his client. It struck Felos as odd, bizarrepersonal.
It was such an abuse of authority, Felos said. I think that really raises red flags about his character and his fitness to be president. Jeb didnt get his way in the Schiavo case. I think he tried to take it out on Michael.
One interesting part is that President Obama said he regrets that he did not put forth effort to stop the interference.
It wasnt something I was comfortable with, but it was not something I stood on the floor and stopped. And I think that was a mistake, and I think the American people understood that was a mistake. And as a constitutional law professor, I knew better.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,672 posts)This case is the ultimate example of Republican healthcare hypocrisy.
Not only are they against expansion of Medicaid, they are against current levels of Medicaid.
Under Republican governor Rick Scott's policy (and Scott Walker's), Terri would also have to have regular blood tests to ensure she was not using illegal drugs. I assume if she failed a test (which has a 5-10 per cent false positive) she would have been cut off from care.
But if her husband followed the medical advise of her doctors (not to mention her own stated wish) and allowed her to pass away, he should be investigated for murder?
Jesus Christ, are they really this stupid, this immoral, this hypocritical, or just political whores?
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Yes.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)FourScore
(9,704 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)That's a power play of a bully.
brer cat
(24,500 posts)Scary thought.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Thanks for the Reminder.
Also worth remembering that Jeb Bush was Governor when paraplegic Richard Paey got a 25 year prison sentence for managing his own spinal pain.
http://reason.com/blog/2006/12/07/appeals-court-upholds-richard
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Which I won't buy. I like paper-free, BPA-free Kora. Hmm, just remembered to order some more.
http://www.amazon.com/Bamboo-Tissue-Treeless-Non-recycled-Materials/dp/B00G5V6VYW
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Quick, derail the subthread because we dont like the blog.
Here, The Huffington Post, same story: better, now?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/cruel-and-disgusting-pain_b_43216.html
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)For managing his own spinal pain?
Or are you totally uninterested in the core point there, instead focusing on the source.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)I have Auto-immune, the pain can become unbearable. To restrict pain medication from a patient is the same as torture.
FL has some bizarre laws. The residents need to clean house.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)One rare drug war story with a happy ending, at least as much as is reasonable.
But the point was, the worst of the shit went down when Jeb was in the State house, and he did diddly.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)to write letters to the editor of papers across the country reminding people just much Jeb Bush intervened in the matter when he had no right to do so.
Hekate
(90,496 posts)Dumb as a brick, and entitled to his own facts in his own universe. And cruel.
I hope this comes up again during the presidential campaign.
Chemisse
(30,802 posts)He's been painted as the more sensible, intelligent brother. But right here, he sounds just like W.
Pointing this out may be the best way to beat him, if he is the nominee.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Relativity is pointless in this case. They are all complete sociopaths.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I really do.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)What they did to Michael Shiavo is a travesty. It is an incredibly detailed account of what happened before and after she finally went.
I want to be able to look my father in the eye and say, I continued the legacy, he told the Miami Herald in 1994.
This image made me cry:
I can honestly say the thought of this man as President terrifies me.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Shame on all of the ones who took part in it.
I have more "Jeb is no moderate stuff" lined up to post soon.
I can not stand him.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)that he is trying to have himself painted as a moderate is disgusting.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Thank you, Mad. I'm afraid people are getting a sense of complacency over 2016. Jeb win would be a disaster.
UTUSN
(70,635 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Remember when Michelle Bachmann said publicly that Terri was healthy?
spanone
(135,765 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frist
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Most of us have to or will have to make very hard decisions concerning loved ones. This was outrageous.
spanone
(135,765 posts)In late 2002, HCA agreed to pay the U.S. government $631 million, plus interest, and pay $17.5 million to state Medicaid agencies, in addition to $250 million paid up to that point to resolve outstanding Medicare expense claims.[14] In all, civil lawsuits cost HCA more than $2 billion to settle, by far the largest fraud settlement in US history.[15] The name subsequently reverted to "Hospital Corporation of America." HCA abandoned the use of its name in its home market and instead promotes its Nashville hospitals under the TriStar brand.
On July 1, 2005, Senator Frist sold all of his HCA shares two weeks before disappointing earnings sent the stock on a 9-point plunge. Frist claimed that he sold his shares to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest if he ran for president. Other executives sold their stock at the same time. Shareholders sued HCA, alleging that the company made false claims about its profits to drive up the price, which then fell when the company reported disappointing financial results. Eleven of HCA's senior officers were sued for accounting fraud and insider trading. [16] HCA settled the lawsuit in August 2007, agreeing to pay $20 million to the shareholders.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital_Corporation_of_America
OH...and for extra added bonus, florida governor rick scott was head of the company when this took place....
yardwork
(61,526 posts)Come to think of it, it's very similar of their attitude toward rape and domestic violence. In each case, the right-wingers decide what is best for others. They determine this by viewing videos for an hour or so, or glancing through reading material that states that zygotes are children, or simply "knowing" that a woman who goes on a date is asking for it.
3catwoman3
(23,931 posts)...also claimed carbon dioxide is harmless because it occurs in nature. Perhaps she would like to be hooked up to a tank of it. After she partakes of a salad of poisonous mushrooms dressed with arsenic vinaigrette.
spanone
(135,765 posts)mountain grammy
(26,594 posts)He should be elected to nothing. He deserves nothing. He is a terrible man. This case was the ultimate government intrusion into people's lives. I've bookmarked this story so I can remember facts and dates when if this poor excuse for a human being manages to get the nomination.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Vendetta.
Not Presidential.
Not.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,499 posts)Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)Particularly since the Corporate Media will try to present Jeb as a moderate.
Another reason is that the Terri Schiavo intervention was a really unpopular move by the Republicans. Even my Republican as can be Aunt was against it.
Thanks for the reminder madfloridian.
K & R.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Schiavo and his war loving idiot brother...dumbya. Just keep drilling it.
Blue Owl
(50,216 posts)n/t
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)It wasnt something I was comfortable with, but it was not something I stood on the floor and stopped. And I think that was a mistake, and I think the American people understood that was a mistake. And as a constitutional law professor, I knew better.
.....
The governor also heard from people like Rick Warren. On behalf of everyone who truly understood the issues, thank you for doing all you could for Terri Schiavo, the evangelical megachurch pastor and author of the bestselling book The Purpose Driven Life wrote to Bush in an email. Its a sad ending but you lead the right side with courage and conviction. Im proud to call you my friend.
Thank you so much, Bush responded. You have lifted my spirits.
Rick Warren???? How do I know that name??????
Initech
(100,013 posts)Or the same Rick Warren who gave the equivocation at Obama's first inaugural? That guy? He can take his purpose driven bullshit and shove it up his you know where.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Name one person involved in all of that crap that suffered any consequence of mucking around in Schiavo's life, political, personal, or otherwise.
Initech
(100,013 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Making Terri and her husband suffer like that. Especially Terri - who the reich to lifers trapped between this world and the next as some sort of mascot in order to score political points. Fuck each and every one of them.
Oh, and to any Republican idiots lurking around these here parts - please take this as your perpetual invitation to butt the HELL out when it comes to me and my family. We will make our own end of life decisions and I don't need any Republican dumbfuckery making matters worse.
Initech
(100,013 posts)But then again it is Florida.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I am still looking for the picture of the group that was chanting and rocking.