Jeb ‘Put Me Through Hell’...Michael Schiavo's story.

[madfloridian]

I remember this whenever Jeb starts spouting about what a moderate he is. Or when others portray him that way.

Jeb ‘Put Me Through Hell’


Michael Schiavo at home. "He should be ashamed," Schiavo said of Jeb Bush. "To bring as much pain as he did, to me and my family, that should be an issue." | Maggie Steber/Redux for POLITICO Magazine

“It was a living hell,” he said, “and I blame him.”

Michael Schiavo was the husband of Terri Schiavo, the brain-dead woman from the Tampa Bay area who ended up at the center of one of the most contentious, drawn-out conflicts in the history of America’s culture wars. The fight over her death lasted almost a decade. It started as a private legal back-and-forth between her husband and her parents. Before it ended, it moved from circuit courts to district courts to state courts to federal courts, to the U.S. Supreme Court, from the state legislature in Tallahassee to Congress in Washington. The president got involved. So did the pope.

But it never would have become what it became if not for the dogged intervention of the governor of Florida at the time, the second son of the 41st president, the younger brother of the 43rd, the man who sits near the top of the extended early list of likely 2016 Republican presidential candidates. On sustained, concentrated display, seen in thousands of pages of court records and hundreds of emails he sent, was Jeb the converted Catholic, Jeb the pro-life conservative, Jeb the hands-on workaholic, Jeb the all-hours emailer—confident, competitive, powerful, obstinate Jeb. Longtime watchers of John Ellis Bush say what he did throughout the Terri Schiavo case demonstrates how he would operate in the Oval Office. They say it’s the Jebbest thing Jeb’s ever done.

“If you want to understand Jeb Bush, he’s guided by principle over convenience....“He may be wrong about something, but he knows what he believes.”

Those are the words of Dennis Baxley who was one of the most conservative legislators ever.

SO...even though Jeb is wrong about something it is okay because he believes it strongly. That is a pathetic excuse for ignorance.

Long article, hard to limit to just a few paragraphs. The worst is how Jeb continued attacking Michael Schiavo even after Terri's death.

Today, looking back, what makes Felos, the attorney for Michael Schiavo, angriest about the case is Bush’s letter to McCabe. Even after 18 months of legal wrangling, even after her death, even after the autopsy—after all that—the governor asked a prosecutor to initiate a retroactive criminal investigation of his client. It struck Felos as “odd,” “bizarre”—“personal.”

“It was such an abuse of authority,” Felos said. “I think that really raises red flags about his character and his fitness to be president. Jeb didn’t get his way in the Schiavo case. I think he tried to take it out on Michael.”

One interesting part is that President Obama said he regrets that he did not put forth effort to stop the interference.

“It wasn’t something I was comfortable with, but it was not something I stood on the floor and stopped. And I think that was a mistake, and I think the American people understood that was a mistake. And as a constitutional law professor, I knew better.”

[shenmue]

1. :(

[Midnight Writer]

2. Terri Schiavo was kept alive through MEDICAID

This case is the ultimate example of Republican healthcare hypocrisy.

Not only are they against expansion of Medicaid, they are against current levels of Medicaid.

Under Republican governor Rick Scott's policy (and Scott Walker's), Terri would also have to have regular blood tests to ensure she was not using illegal drugs. I assume if she failed a test (which has a 5-10 per cent false positive) she would have been cut off from care.

But if her husband followed the medical advise of her doctors (not to mention her own stated wish) and allowed her to pass away, he should be investigated for murder?

Jesus Christ, are they really this stupid, this immoral, this hypocritical, or just political whores?

[madfloridian]

4. .....

Yes.

[ND-Dem]

5. and that's an insult to whores.

[FourScore]

3. What a nightmare for Michael Schiavo. n/t

[madfloridian]

6. And then for Jeb to start a criminal investigation into Michael S...unconscionable.

That's a power play of a bully.

[brer cat]

9. And he wants even more power.

Scary thought.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. Yep.

Thanks for the Reminder.

Also worth remembering that Jeb Bush was Governor when paraplegic Richard Paey got a 25 year prison sentence for managing his own spinal pain.

http://reason.com/blog/2006/12/07/appeals-court-upholds-richard

[Dont call me Shirley]

26. "Reason" magazine is a Koch product.

[valerief]

27. I thought the Kochs only made things you wipe your ass with.

Which I won't buy. I like paper-free, BPA-free Kora. Hmm, just remembered to order some more.
http://www.amazon.com/Bamboo-Tissue-Treeless-Non-recycled-Materials/dp/B00G5V6VYW

[Warren DeMontague]

33. yeah, fuck the guy in the wheelchair who got a 25 year prison sentence

Quick, derail the subthread because we dont like the blog.

Here, The Huffington Post, same story: better, now?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/cruel-and-disgusting-pain_b_43216.html

[Warren DeMontague]

32. So you think it was a good idea to put Richard Paey in prison for 25 years

For managing his own spinal pain?

Or are you totally uninterested in the core point there, instead focusing on the source.

[Dont call me Shirley]

36. Nope, his sentence is wrong. Christ should pardon. And it's not even legal to have MMJ in FL.

I have Auto-immune, the pain can become unbearable. To restrict pain medication from a patient is the same as torture.

FL has some bizarre laws. The residents need to clean house.

[Warren DeMontague]

37. I think Paey did get pardoned, eventually.

One rare drug war story with a happy ending, at least as much as is reasonable.

But the point was, the worst of the shit went down when Jeb was in the State house, and he did diddly.

[JDPriestly]

8. Let's don't forget this. How could Jeb Bush have been so nasty about this.

[davidpdx]

10. Assuming he runs, I think it is important for those of us who supported Michael Schiavo

to write letters to the editor of papers across the country reminding people just much Jeb Bush intervened in the matter when he had no right to do so.

[Hekate]

11. “He may be wrong about something, but he knows what he believes.” Oh God, he's W's brother all right

Dumb as a brick, and entitled to his own facts in his own universe. And cruel.

I hope this comes up again during the presidential campaign.

[Chemisse]

12. That screamed out to me also.

He's been painted as the more sensible, intelligent brother. But right here, he sounds just like W.

Pointing this out may be the best way to beat him, if he is the nominee.

[smirkymonkey]

40. There are no sensible, intellegent Bushes.

Relativity is pointless in this case. They are all complete sociopaths.

[madfloridian]

16. Yes, I believe Jeb has a cruel streak in him.

I really do.

[Raine1967]

13. This entire article is incredible.

What they did to Michael Shiavo is a travesty. It is an incredibly detailed account of what happened before and after she finally went.

“I hope George W. Bush is president some day,” former Republican Party chairman Rich Bond told the late Marjorie Williams, writing for Talk magazine in September 2000. “I know Jeb will be.”

“I want to be able to look my father in the eye and say, ‘I continued the legacy,’” he told the Miami Herald in 1994.

This image made me cry:

I can honestly say the thought of this man as President terrifies me.

[madfloridian]

14. It was like a 3 ring circus led by our then governor, Jeb. It was a farce.

Shame on all of the ones who took part in it.

I have more "Jeb is no moderate stuff" lined up to post soon.

I can not stand him.

[Raine1967]

18. Excellent. I will be eagerly awaiting them.

that he is trying to have himself painted as a moderate is disgusting.

[Starry Messenger]

15. k&r

Thank you, Mad. I'm afraid people are getting a sense of complacency over 2016. Jeb win would be a disaster.

[UTUSN]

17. R#30 & K. The SCHIAVO affair was about as big for me as Coup-2000, disgraceful n/t

[madfloridian]

19. Remember the protestors chanting and taping their mouths?

Remember when Michelle Bachmann said publicly that Terri was healthy?

[spanone]

21. our senator, the not-so-esteemed bill frist made his famous video diagnosis of ms schiavo

In the Terri Schiavo case, a brain-damaged woman whose husband wanted to remove her gastric feeding tube, Frist opposed the removal and in a speech delivered on the Senate Floor, challenged the diagnosis of Schiavo's physicians of Schiavo being in a persistent vegetative state (PVS): "I question it based on a review of the video footage which I spent an hour or so looking at last night in my office".[52] Frist was criticized by a medical ethicist at Northwestern University for making a diagnosis without personally examining the patient and for questioning the diagnosis when he was not a neurologist.[53] After her death, the autopsy showed signs of long-term and irreversible damage to a brain consistent with PVS.[54] Frist defended his actions after the autopsy.[55]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frist

[madfloridian]

24. Found the video of Frist. Unbelievable.

Most of us have to or will have to make very hard decisions concerning loved ones. This was outrageous.

[spanone]

25. his family sent him to the senate to watch over their healthcare industry.

HCA
In late 2002, HCA agreed to pay the U.S. government $631 million, plus interest, and pay $17.5 million to state Medicaid agencies, in addition to $250 million paid up to that point to resolve outstanding Medicare expense claims.[14] In all, civil lawsuits cost HCA more than $2 billion to settle, by far the largest fraud settlement in US history.[15] The name subsequently reverted to "Hospital Corporation of America." HCA abandoned the use of its name in its home market and instead promotes its Nashville hospitals under the TriStar brand.

On July 1, 2005, Senator Frist sold all of his HCA shares two weeks before disappointing earnings sent the stock on a 9-point plunge. Frist claimed that he sold his shares to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest if he ran for president. Other executives sold their stock at the same time. Shareholders sued HCA, alleging that the company made false claims about its profits to drive up the price, which then fell when the company reported disappointing financial results. Eleven of HCA's senior officers were sued for accounting fraud and insider trading. [16] HCA settled the lawsuit in August 2007, agreeing to pay $20 million to the shareholders.[17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital_Corporation_of_America

OH...and for extra added bonus, florida governor rick scott was head of the company when this took place....

[yardwork]

30. Very similar to the attitude of right-wingers toward abortion. They decide what is best for others.

Come to think of it, it's very similar of their attitude toward rape and domestic violence. In each case, the right-wingers decide what is best for others. They determine this by viewing videos for an hour or so, or glancing through reading material that states that zygotes are children, or simply "knowing" that a woman who goes on a date is asking for it.

[3catwoman3]

34. Yes, well, Batshit Bachmann...

...also claimed carbon dioxide is harmless because it occurs in nature. Perhaps she would like to be hooked up to a tank of it. After she partakes of a salad of poisonous mushrooms dressed with arsenic vinaigrette.

[spanone]

20. no shrubbery, ever again

[mountain grammy]

22. Jeb Bush must never, ever be president..

He should be elected to nothing. He deserves nothing. He is a terrible man. This case was the ultimate government intrusion into people's lives. I've bookmarked this story so I can remember facts and dates when if this poor excuse for a human being manages to get the nomination.

[LiberalAndProud]

23. “odd,” “bizarre”—“personal.”

Vendetta.

Not Presidential.

Not.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

28. NOT presidential. Rather, criminal behavior. Horrifying behavior. n/t

[Liberal_Dog]

29. We Need To Keep Talking About This

Particularly since the Corporate Media will try to present Jeb as a moderate.

Another reason is that the Terri Schiavo intervention was a really unpopular move by the Republicans. Even my Republican as can be Aunt was against it.

Thanks for the reminder madfloridian.

K & R.

[roamer65]

31. The two ways to beat Jebbie.

Schiavo and his war loving idiot brother...dumbya. Just keep drilling it.

[Blue Owl]

35. Beezeljeb

n/t

[zipplewrath]

38. There's been no down side for anyone involved in this mess.

“Well, you know, when I first arrived in the Senate that first year,” Obama said, “we had a situation surrounding Terri Schiavo. And I remember how we adjourned with a unanimous agreement that eventually allowed Congress to interject itself into that decision-making process of the families.

“It wasn’t something I was comfortable with, but it was not something I stood on the floor and stopped. And I think that was a mistake, and I think the American people understood that was a mistake. And as a constitutional law professor, I knew better.”

.....

The governor also heard from people like Rick Warren. “On behalf of everyone who truly understood the issues, thank you for doing all you could for Terri Schiavo,” the evangelical megachurch pastor and author of the bestselling book The Purpose Driven Life wrote to Bush in an email. “It’s a sad ending but you lead the right side with courage and conviction. I’m proud to call you my friend.”

“Thank you so much,” Bush responded. “You have lifted my spirits.”

Rick Warren???? How do I know that name??????

[Initech]

42. The same Rick Warren who committed egregious human rights violations in Uganda?

Or the same Rick Warren who gave the equivocation at Obama's first inaugural? That guy? He can take his purpose driven bullshit and shove it up his you know where.

[zipplewrath]

43. Like I say, no down side

Name one person involved in all of that crap that suffered any consequence of mucking around in Schiavo's life, political, personal, or otherwise.

[Initech]

44. True. Side with the pro lifers and you won't suffer any punishment.

[47of74]

39. This still boils my blood

Making Terri and her husband suffer like that. Especially Terri - who the reich to lifers trapped between this world and the next as some sort of mascot in order to score political points. Fuck each and every one of them.

Oh, and to any Republican idiots lurking around these here parts - please take this as your perpetual invitation to butt the HELL out when it comes to me and my family. We will make our own end of life decisions and I don't need any Republican dumbfuckery making matters worse.

[Initech]

41. I still to this day wonder why Jeb Bush wasn't impeached for that.

But then again it is Florida.

[madfloridian]

45. On TV all day all night. Remember the mouths taped with red?

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEV72nCeFUrU8A2yknnIlQ?p=schiavo%2C+protestors%2C+taped+mouths%2C&fr=&fr2=piv-web&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001


I am still looking for the picture of the group that was chanting and rocking.