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jmowreader

(50,448 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:02 PM Jan 2015

America's greatest sniper vs. America's most famous sociopath

Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock was America's finest sniper. (This is the guy who put a round down the barrel of another sniper's scope, and also the guy who made a 2500-yard shot with a .50-caliber machine gun firing standard ammunition.) Don't believe raw numbers: when Gunny Hathcock was active, a kill wasn't official unless it was observed by a commissioned officer. He estimates he killed at least 300 enemy soldiers.

Chris Kyle you already know.

In Kyle's book, he claims to have enjoyed killing people.

Gunny Hathcock said he never enjoyed killing people; it was a job he did to protect his fellow Marines. MOST combat arms troops feel the same way.

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jmowreader

(50,448 posts)
3. I wasn't attempting to praise Hathcock
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:21 PM
Jan 2015

I was pointing out the difference between Hathcock and Kyle: one at least claimed killing wasn't his favorite thing, the other who apparently relished blowing people's shit away.

Also remember he claimed to shoot people off the roof of the Superdome: go to Google Maps and look at the area around the Superdome in Satellite View. If he really was going to shoot looters he would go to where looters were, and there aren't any good sight lines between the Superdome and anything in NOLA that's worth stealing.

 

glasshouses

(484 posts)
5. That's because he was full of shit with that and also when he said two guys tried to steal his truck
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jan 2015

and he shot them dead at a gas station in Texas .


Also as far as I know there is no evidence that I have read where he committed any war crime in Iraq either.

When he dropped a terrorist who was planting IED's or planning an ambush on our troops.

I really don't care that he felt good about killing them . As long as he never crossed that line of
committing a war crime I'm good with what he did in protecting our troops.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
13. kyle made the choice to join the military and perform his duties as assigned,
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 02:47 AM
Jan 2015

unless you're suggesting he wasn't capable of rational decision making?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
7. "terrorist who was planting IED's" - your language again gives you away. They were
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 12:04 AM
Jan 2015

"terrorists" the same way Washington's soldiers in 1776 were "terrorrists."

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
14. Exactly. People defending their homes, families and land from horrific invasion aren't terrorists.
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 02:48 AM
Jan 2015

Couldn't agree more.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. It may just be me but you don't sound very liberal. He was a psysopath and some here
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 01:24 AM
Jan 2015

applaud that because he was on our side. Just like Cheney's torturers. Heroes and patriots. They are all war criminals and should be punished.

jmowreader

(50,448 posts)
12. I refuse to read his book, but I have the feeling...
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 02:39 AM
Jan 2015

...that if someone with a computer hooked to the internets were to go through it page by page, the number of bullshit statements would exceed the number of true ones.

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delta17

(283 posts)
16. The end result is the same, though.
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 06:44 AM
Jan 2015

They both killed a lot of people in an immoral war. Hathcock is just a lot more humble.

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