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R Merm

(405 posts)
3. Naji Salim Al-Ali, was killed by the PLO
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 10:44 PM
Jan 2015

Mossad knew about the PLO's plans in advance because of the double agents, and did not warn Scotland Yard. The comment is totally misleading, it takes all responsibility for the killing from the PLO and gives it solely to Mossad.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mi5-was-feuding-with-mossad-while-known-terrorists-struck-in-london-1101024.html

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
4. Whoa whoa whoa.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:48 PM
Jan 2015

We won't be having of those fact things around here. Especially when they come down in the defense of Israel.

progressoid

(49,962 posts)
5. while I like Mr Fish,
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jan 2015

Not being employed by newspapers is more likely economic than anything else.

Photographers are half what they were just 10 years ago.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
6. Staff photographers may be half of what they were 10 years ago,
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 08:52 PM
Jan 2015

but now there are millions of freelance photographers on the streets every day. That may have a lot to do with that situation, cartoonists not so much.

progressoid

(49,962 posts)
8. Which is what Mr Fish is. Freelance.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:48 AM
Jan 2015

Thanks more to the economy, syndication, the internet, and newpapers unwilling to be edgy, than terrorists.

And freelancing sucks. Those "millions" of freelance photographers (and cartoonists) are making shit for income. I know a couple who tried. One ended up in retail. The other is marketing for a hospital.

Photographers, artists and videographers have experienced a 43 percent decrease in jobs since 2000, dropping from 6,171 to only 3,493 jobs in 2012 — the largest difference faced by newspaper staffers, according to the American Society of Newspaper Editors (ASNE). Reporters and writers were next in line, with jobs dropping by 32 percent. Copy editors, layout editors and online producers lost 27% of all jobs.



The job decreases come as a result of budget cuts in the wake of a digital shift towards social media and mobile platforms as a new means of journalism. And there is no sign of this letting up. In May, the Chicago Sun-Times cut its photography department completely, eliminating 28 positions. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution recently announced an initiative to turn many of their photographers into "multimedia visual journalists" in the midst of planned layoffs.

But it isn't just photographers either. Just recently, the Tribune Co. reported cutting 360 positions in the beginning nine months of 2013, 240 of those occurred in just the third quarter alone.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
9. Thanks for the information, but I was simply referring to the number of
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:51 AM
Jan 2015

cell phones with cameras. Very few if any of those people are trying to make a living from selling photos and would be happy just to have credit for the photo though many newspapers and TV news shows do pay for photos and videos from amateurs.

But why have a staff photographer when you have hundreds or even thousands of volunteers already and they are getting live action photos and videos?

Cartoons are a different story.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
7. Much as I hate to defend Israel, this is misleading and, frankly, dishonest.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:07 PM
Jan 2015

Mossad had advance knowledge of his murder, and failed to pass that on, but the implication that it was them who had him murdered is just dishonest.

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