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Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:04 PM Apr 2012

Grayson wins $852,000 in stock case

Well, we now know he's effective when he's personally invested.

Article snips below:

Former U.S. Rep. Alan Grayson has won $852,000 in a federal securities case he claimed involved a "Ponzi scheme" that defrauded him and other investors of up to $1 billion.

The award was far smaller than the $30 million Grayson sought. He contended he lost at least that much money, including capital gains, in deals made in 2002 and 2003 with a company called Derivium Capital LLC, and involving Wachovia Securities LLC.

"We are pleased that some measure of justice has finally been achieved for our family, and that hope has been restored for all of the Derivium victims. This was a terrible event in the lives of the hundreds of unfortunate people who lost hundreds of millions of dollars in the Derivium scheme," Grayson said in an announcement released by his lawyers at Morgan and Morgan's The Business Trial Group.

A Democrat, Grayson was elected to Congress from Orlando in 2008, but lost a re-election bid in 2010. He's campaigning for Congress again, this time in another district that stretches from southeast Orange County through Osceola County.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-23/business/os-grayson-wachovia-award-20120423_1_alan-grayson-stock-case-offer-stock

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Grayson wins $852,000 in stock case (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 OP
Oh, and it doesn't go unnoticed that he has ties to Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #1
Do You Have An Issue With Grayson? HangOnKids Apr 2012 #4
I have an issue with a huge law firm that Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #7
Every large law firm brings in partners because of political clout. Bake Apr 2012 #11
Yeah, well. That's the problem. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #14
Uh which half? trumad Apr 2012 #12
Trumad! Wake up out of your suburban sleepwalk! Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #13
Quack trumad Apr 2012 #16
Trumad, Trumad. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #17
LOL---keep up the good fight... trumad Apr 2012 #20
You bet. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #21
OMG! It "harbors" GOP supporters! Bake Apr 2012 #18
I don't work alongside of them. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #19
he had 30 million invested it it? Enrique Apr 2012 #2
The comments in the reader's forum Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #8
I have no problem with letting rich people be liberals, or letting liberals get rich. Jim Lane Apr 2012 #10
We all get screwed. We all make mistakes. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #15
What can one say? frazzled Apr 2012 #3
It doesnt say he had $30 million invested. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #5
Alan Grayson is a DU member. n/t grasswire Apr 2012 #6
I liked his last post. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #9

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
7. I have an issue with a huge law firm that
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:56 AM
Apr 2012

takes in a lawyer into their firm because of their political clout. Especially when "The People" might have been wronged by some of their decisions. (I'm not referring to Grayson.)

You do know that half of the Morgan and Morgan (partners) sides with Republicans, don't you?

I just don't know how Grayson is going to work through this gauntlet without making some kind of compromises. He may be just the perfect candidate for people outside of Florida, but Floridians need a champion who is ready to take on the good ole boys.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
11. Every large law firm brings in partners because of political clout.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:10 PM
Apr 2012

M&M is no exception. Further, any large law firm is likely to include people on both sides of the political aisle.

Bake

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
14. Yeah, well. That's the problem.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:45 PM
Apr 2012

If you're trying to straighten a mess helped along by someone who is shrewd enough to hide in the roster of one of the largest law firms in Central Florida, or one of the largest, well, that presents challenges.

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
13. Trumad! Wake up out of your suburban sleepwalk!
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:42 PM
Apr 2012

Check out his wife's political affiliations. It's no secret. Next, check the GOP supporters which that law firm harbors.

Is this the same Trumad who was ready to tombstone any new DUer who quacked like a duck?

If we're going to clean up Central Florida, we need to cut through the networks that harbor each other's political friend buddies, whatever.

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
17. Trumad, Trumad.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:03 PM
Apr 2012

You can't possibly be that naive. I'm sure that on a federal level they will come through for Democrats. The question is, are they willing to shake up the networks in Central Florida that reinforce the double standards that make life impossible for many of us.

My position is, they can't possibly be effective when their law firm harbors rainmakers for the other party.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
18. OMG! It "harbors" GOP supporters!
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:05 PM
Apr 2012

That's not a crime. Pick any law firm with more than one or two lawyers, and there's at least one GOPer in the ranks. It doesn't make them lousy lawyers and it doesn't make them criminals.

I've worked with some damn good lawyers who happened to be GOPers. We just didn't talk politics.

Bake

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
8. The comments in the reader's forum
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:58 AM
Apr 2012

were hard to argue against.

But that was the price we all paid for deregulating Wall Street. Or whatever it was we did between 1998 and 2010.

The point is, someone put up a fight.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
10. I have no problem with letting rich people be liberals, or letting liberals get rich.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:00 PM
Apr 2012

As rhett o rick points out below, Grayson didn't invest $30 million, but even if he had, so what?

Before running for Congress, Grayson was a successful lawyer. Here's how Wikipedia describes one aspect of his practice:

In the 2000s, he worked as a plaintiffs' attorney specializing in whistleblower fraud cases aimed at Iraq war contractors. One contractor, Custer Battles, employed individuals who were found guilty of making fraudulent statements and submitting fraudulent invoices on two contracts the company had with the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq.[11][12] On behalf of his clients, Grayson filed suit under the False Claims Act and its qui tam provisions.[11] The jury verdict was more than $13 million, which was upheld on appeal in April 2009. The case remains the only successful prosecution of those who profited illegally from the war in Iraq.


I don't know what his share of the $13 million was but it was probably significant.

Apparently, though, more of his money came from his work as a businessman. Wikipedia again:

Grayson made his fortune as the first president of IDT Corporation (International Discount Telecom), which pioneered competition and discount pricing in the long-distance telecommunications industry and became a $2-billion-a-year Fortune 1000 company.[9][15]


You can read the full bio here.

His personal financial success certainly made it easier for him to run for Congress, so more power to him.

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
15. We all get screwed. We all make mistakes.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:49 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:43 PM - Edit history (1)

What makes us different is the resources we have at our disposal to overcome the misfortunes. What's important is to find a way around the patterns. Because, eventually, people figure out who are the easy ones to take advantage of, and which ones will fight back.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. What can one say?
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:18 PM
Apr 2012
What Derivium Capital offered, according to reports, was an investment strategy that allowed people to offer stock as collateral on loans, receiving up to 90 percent of the value of the stock, with the option to reclaim the stock later.


Totally out of my league, or really out of my comprehension. And I daresay it's probably out of the league of most of his would-be constituents.

Investing $30 million dollars. Well, my my.
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