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Brigid

(17,621 posts)
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:42 PM Dec 2014

I got excused from jury duty today!

They didn't want me!

Was it because I know that "reasonable doubt" does not mean "no doubt" and what an "accomplice" is? Or was it because I mentioned MSNBC on my questionnaire when asked what news sources I watch or read regularly? Or do they not want paralegal students on juries?

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I got excused from jury duty today! (Original Post) Brigid Dec 2014 OP
My guess is the paralegal student angle sunk you... brooklynite Dec 2014 #1
I'm a lawyer and have served on a jury. COLGATE4 Dec 2014 #6
Or is it because TlalocW Dec 2014 #2
Nope. Brigid Dec 2014 #11
<snort!> nt DawgHouse Dec 2014 #23
You didn't show up naked did you? Lint Head Dec 2014 #3
Umm . . . Brigid Dec 2014 #10
Too bad , they need people on juries who can think for them selves helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #4
They don't generally want smart people, and you're smart. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #5
I think it's more probable because (s)he is a COLGATE4 Dec 2014 #7
You want someone who agrees with you already. AngryAmish Dec 2014 #12
They must allow a lot of peremptory challenges in this state. Brigid Dec 2014 #15
It depends. AngryAmish Dec 2014 #17
Could be the paralegal thing, elleng Dec 2014 #8
Expert? Not me. Brigid Dec 2014 #13
Not relevant, elleng Dec 2014 #19
I once had 2 judges in one venire! AngryAmish Dec 2014 #16
Good idea! elleng Dec 2014 #21
Wooo hoooo etherealtruth Dec 2014 #9
I reluctantly opted out due to my age (over 72). My caregiver responsibilities preclude it. CTyankee Dec 2014 #14
Did you click the "I am not able to serve at this time" link? KamaAina Dec 2014 #18
Last time I got DU jury duty . . . Brigid Dec 2014 #22
I have been excused from Jury duty twice. Here's why! Paper Roses Dec 2014 #20

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
1. My guess is the paralegal student angle sunk you...
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:47 PM
Dec 2014

My wife's a ;awyer and she's never been on a jury.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
6. I'm a lawyer and have served on a jury.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:55 PM
Dec 2014

Not necessarily excluded from jury pools, at least in Michigan.

TlalocW

(15,379 posts)
2. Or is it because
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:49 PM
Dec 2014

you yelled, "It's 2 in the afternoon! What the hell are you still doing in your bathrobe?" at the judge?

TlalocW

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,574 posts)
5. They don't generally want smart people, and you're smart.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:52 PM
Dec 2014

As a paralegal student, you know what's going on, and they don't want that. They want a "tabula rasa" as a juror, someone they can mold to see things their way.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
7. I think it's more probable because (s)he is a
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:57 PM
Dec 2014

student. The lawyers trying the case might not want a law (or paralegal) student on the jury, fearing that there's a risk that (s)he might convey imprecise or inaccurate information about legal issues to other jury members.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
12. You want someone who agrees with you already.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:11 PM
Dec 2014

It is virtually impossible to change someone's mind. You want those people who seem like they will agree with you om the jury and to get people who will not agree with you to disqualify themselves. If they wont disqualify tehselves then you use a premptory challenge.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
15. They must allow a lot of peremptory challenges in this state.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:15 PM
Dec 2014

They were going through prospective jurors like water.

elleng

(130,860 posts)
8. Could be the paralegal thing,
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:04 PM
Dec 2014

they don't want one juror whom others may think of as 'expert,' but I, an attorney, did serve on a jury, Federal court, very interesting, and the chair selected by others was a legal secretary (I think.)

AND even tho we all wanted to find the guy guilty, we concluded the govt failed to make its case against the creep who took advantage of funds provided for injuries after 9/11.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
13. Expert? Not me.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:13 PM
Dec 2014

I haven't even taken criminal law yet, and watching lots of "Law & Order" most definitely does NOT count.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
16. I once had 2 judges in one venire!
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:15 PM
Dec 2014

We went back with the judge and decided they would have undue influence and excuse for cause. I would have kept them but decided not to poison the trial judge.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
9. Wooo hoooo
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:06 PM
Dec 2014

You did your duty and showed up .... As a para legal it may have been interesting to actually serve, though

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
14. I reluctantly opted out due to my age (over 72). My caregiver responsibilities preclude it.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:14 PM
Dec 2014

My state gives me the option. Earlier I had eagerly tried to serve but was rejected (my son is a prosecutor and the defense challenged me, even tho my son is a very liberal guy, but of course they don't know that). I had also worked for very liberal causes.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
18. Did you click the "I am not able to serve at this time" link?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:20 PM
Dec 2014

Or did you get the "We're sorry, that jury is already full" message?

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
20. I have been excused from Jury duty twice. Here's why!
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:23 PM
Dec 2014

I've been called many times and have waited all day to be called from the pool and brought to the hall where the judge asks general questions of the potential jurors.
Many times, after spending about six hours waiting and finally being sent home, I was finally called to the main hall with the pool.

The following happened twice. The general audience was asked questions about many things, one of them was " would you take the word of the police over that of the defendant?"
The last time was 2 years ago. The same thing happened about 5 years ago.

We were asked to raise hands if we said 'yes' to this statement, but not to speak out loud. Of the--maybe 50 people in the room--, I was one of two people who were excused. Don't know what happened after I left thew hall.

After events of the last year or so, I wonder what I would do if called again and asked this same question.

BTW, At 72, I doubt I will be called again but this question has come to mind a lot as of late.

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