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UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:33 AM Dec 2014

Cleveland Heartless Felons gang issues orders to kill white police officers

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Heartless Felons gang gave its members orders to kill white police officers to avenge black lives taken by white police officers, including the Nov. 21 Tamir Rice shooting, officials said.

cuyahoga county sheriff seal.jpgFile photo

The Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Office received the tip and deemed it credible enough to reach out to local police departments to make them aware of the threat.

Sheriff's office spokesman John O'Brien would not say where or when they got the tip.

O'Brien said the sheriff's office declined to give specific information about the threat for fear that it would benefit the gang.


http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_heartless_felons_gan.html#incart_river

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Cleveland Heartless Felons gang issues orders to kill white police officers (Original Post) UglyGreed Dec 2014 OP
Tell it to the Cops Sparhawk60 Dec 2014 #1
but this will lead to UglyGreed Dec 2014 #2
I have reservations Feral Child Dec 2014 #3
That may be the case UglyGreed Dec 2014 #5
they have attacked prison guards recently GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #10
Those attacks appear reactionary, Feral Child Dec 2014 #13
Well so long as the Gang conducts an internal investigation and examines all evidence Savannahmann Dec 2014 #4
Of course!!! UglyGreed Dec 2014 #7
From this.... ileus Dec 2014 #6
I remember when UglyGreed Dec 2014 #8
the lower pic is from a different country belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #9
tell me our cops aren't armed to the teeth. Inkfreak Dec 2014 #11
Yes (I searched Israel) but we'll be headed to cops with SMGs if gangs insist. ileus Dec 2014 #12
Yes it was Israel but my last trip into Penn Station UglyGreed Dec 2014 #14
Well I am sure we will be seeing lots of dead kids in the future. dilby Dec 2014 #15
As recently as five years ago, I would have believed the statement from the PD. Today... not so much LanternWaste Dec 2014 #16
 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
1. Tell it to the Cops
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:46 AM
Dec 2014

"Violence of any type aimed at people in this community is unacceptable, illegal and immoral," Dettelbach said. "Furthermore, any such action is counterproductive as a means of addressing real and serious issues facing our community."

Steven Dettelbach, U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Ohio, denounced the threats from the gang.

Just substitute the word police for gangs, and I am sure we would all agree. I wonder if he knows how ironic/hypocritical his statement is?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
2. but this will lead to
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:51 AM
Dec 2014

the cops being more insecure and God only knows how they will respond. Could we call this the start of a gang war??? SMH!!!

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
3. I have reservations
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:55 AM
Dec 2014

about their CI.

Sounds to me like their Intelligence Division is trying to justify their budget.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
13. Those attacks appear reactionary,
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 10:01 AM
Dec 2014

not strategic. That is, they were prompted by reaction to a circumstance, not planned in advance as gang strategy.

I have no doubt that these gangsters are a serious threat, but I disbelieve they're planning to mount reprisals against police personnel.

No profit in that, either in loot nor in any likelihood of intimidating police into ignoring them or failing to engage them.

Gangs are all about gaining strength and profit. This reported reprisal strategy doesn't help either objective and would most likely result in severe crackdowns limiting their opportunities for profit and dissuading recruitment.

It's possible, I suppose. The Panthers were known for their attempts to protect their communities and give support to locals. Most of their criminal activity were conducted with those goals in mind, the police agencies caused the bad press that painted them as primarily career criminals. That said, the era of the Panthers is over and modern gangs are primarily criminals.

This report just doesn't play and I'm personally convinced that it's been invented by the PD with the aim of gaining them public support to counter public disgust with police racism and murder.

I'm interested in how this plays out in the long run. I think we'll see some raids by police claiming inflated captures of weapons, but won't see a single assassination or raid by gang members on a police unit.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
4. Well so long as the Gang conducts an internal investigation and examines all evidence
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:56 AM
Dec 2014

I'm sure that they will by the way. I'll even bet that they conduct a variation of the Grand Jury process where they ask independant people who have no affiliation with their gang to admit it sounded justified given the circumstances.

Yes, I'm sure that these killings will receive the highest possible priority in being investigated by the aforementioned gang. I'll even bet the Gang Member in question is put on a sort of paid leave while the Gang investigates to make sure that everything is hunky dory legally speaking.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
8. I remember when
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:03 AM
Dec 2014

here in the US we used to comment on the Gestapo and later the Soviets and their heavy handed techniques.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
11. tell me our cops aren't armed to the teeth.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:25 AM
Dec 2014

good call though..our police wouldn't dress like that fashion mess. They prefer to look like they stepped outta an Afgani war zone. Way more tough guy looking.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
14. Yes it was Israel but my last trip into Penn Station
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 04:47 PM
Dec 2014

there were many police and military well armed in the station....

dilby

(2,273 posts)
15. Well I am sure we will be seeing lots of dead kids in the future.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014

All with supposed links to the Heartless Felons gang. In fact I am willing to bet they will be shortly showing a connection between Tamir Rice and the felons to justify his murder.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. As recently as five years ago, I would have believed the statement from the PD. Today... not so much
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:24 PM
Dec 2014

"Sheriff's office spokesman John O'Brien would not say where or when they got the tip..."

As recently as five years ago, I would have believed the statement from the PD. Today... not so much.

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