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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLet's clear up this on Sony and hackers
Sony bears much of the responsibility for their own hacking problem. They can lay the blame right back to their own IT department. It is Sony's job to protect their own interests against malware, hackers etc... Does anyone/state sanctioned hacker have the right to attack Sony? NO, they do not! But, let's face it, Sony has an IT department which should have taken care of their security holes and obviously did not. There are many good IT/security companies out there who stay right on top of state sanctioned hackers. Sony should have hired one of them. So should Kmart, Home Depot and all other major companies who have been hacked as of late. While I think Little Kim (if he sanctioned it) should have his hand slapped, Sony should fire their entire IT department, stop whining over their loss and fix the problem.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)in the electronic age.
I protect my little laptop, and I'm hardly a juicy target.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)rather than their customers' data.
olddots
(10,237 posts)But I have spent thousands of dollare on Sony shit .
Fuck Sony and the little dictator. ...wow dumb I know but jeez the both suck .
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I have heard that the Home Depot Suit's reply was "We sell hammers".
It wouldn't surprise me something like that happened at Sony, if things are screwed up at a company it's almost always on management.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)They only move when there is a big blow up.
Otherwise I feel like they just waste other people's time.
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)For having his car stolen?
We've spent hundreds of billions of dollars on the surveillance system from hell. The NSA has data collection centers that cost hundreds of millions of dollars. The FBI has a cyber crime task force that supposedly worries itself sick over people doing just this. Yet, no one noticed the downloading of all that data straight to North Korea. This didn't happen in a few minutes, or a few hours. It takes me twenty minutes to download a movie, don't tell me they managed to empty the servers at Sony in a few short minutes. The hackers were there for hours.
Yes, Sony's IT department should have known. Yes, they should have taken better precautions. But this just goes to show that all that money spent on Cybersecurity centers here, there, and everywhere was money wasted.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)that someone couldn't figure out a way to hack into. I don't know what kind of precautions Sony has taken, but, at least in my opinion, they might have taken normal precautions and still be hacked.
Bryant
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Amazon has never been hacked. It is just possible that these large corporations are not taking their security seriously enough.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)The NSA does not patrol or spend time on the security of private companies. That would be like saying they were responsible if someone downloaded a virus in your computer. It is up to Sony, and yes, their IT dept should have been aware. Hackers do not have to be somewhere for hours to clean you out.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Months or years of ongoing activity in order to download the incredible amount of data taken. Where and what was Sony IT doing? He also doubted it was North Korea because the country lacked the broadband infrastructure to handle a massive data hack like that.
I found his opinion to be very interesting and somehow think there is so much we're not being told.
Total Charlie Foxtrot.
riversedge
(70,200 posts)someone (??) on msnbc last evening. He made a few points that are important:
First he said that this was the first time that the US had a cyber attach (he referred to it as cyberterroism) ON OUR SOIL.
And, these folks were able to re-enter the computers a few times (not just once) and wipe the computers CLEAN. He was very concerned about this.
He also agreed with you and said that government was not totally responsible and the private sector needed to step up and secure their systems.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:08 AM - Edit history (1)
Would this he considered an attack against the United States?
With the interviewee reponding that it was indeed or should be considered as such.
The news anchor did not not probe further. She did not follow up.
I consider "an attack on the USA as hitting the WH, Pentagon, our utility grids, embassies etc., NOT corporations like Sony. Sony and Sony alone is responsible for protecting itself against hackers or whatever cyber weakness.
This is the same problem with the Home Depots, Targets, any financial institution and any business what wants to "privatize profits and socialize the risks".
Gonna keep my ears open for any other reference to this.
Adding link to CBS....
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/this-morning-from-cbs-news-dec-18-2014/
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)...is the big corporation model now. That's what "too big to fail" really means. By classifying this as a cyber attack on "the US", Sony has now hired the NSA as an IT contractor. On OUR dime.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Sony will ultimately have to hire another security company. Cyber crimes at such a large scale do come under the jurisdiction of the FBI, so it makes sense for the NSA to look into it.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)The only thing is that cyber crimes are under the jurisdiction of the FBI, so they do have to follow through to make sure it was not done by someone in the US.
randome
(34,845 posts)This is the digital age. There is no such thing as a completely secure system. The Internet wants to be open to the world yet secure, two diametrically opposed ideals. I've heard that there are super-duper-really-cool encryption and security schemes to be had but in the end, all of it is an open-ended system.
The most common source of hacking is that perpetrated or 'allowed' by employees. And there is no protection from that, nor will there ever be.
I understand it's considered cool to say 'blame the corporation' but this happens countless times to individuals and smaller companies and even larger firms.
It will always happen.
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JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)With billions or even trillions of dollars against them, what chance does Sony have?
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/05/us/documents-reveal-nsa-campaign-against-encryption.html?ref=us&_r=0
What would you have Sony's IT department do ? Re-design the internet? Create their own fully secure internet? There is no short term solution for Sony or any of us.
If you have all the answers and want their "entire IT department" fired, perhaps you should contact Sony and let them know how simple it is to fix all this.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)perhaps even an inside job or someone previously employed with Sony.
Still, not disregarding our own efforts to sabotage, where was Sony IT during these months or years that massive amounts of data were being backdoored through their servers? No one noticed an increase in traffic somewhere?
No one watching?
Understaffed IT?
Negligent IT?
Not too big to fail but too big to monitor?
We're not being told everything.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)The internet is NOT secure.
Hacked in 2011:
RSA
Sony Playstation credit card info
Michaels (Craft stores)
Lockheed Martin
Google gmail -- Chinese hack of american politicians' emails
CitiBank
International Monetary Fund
2012:
Norton AntiVirus source code hacked
Zappos
Stratfor
Global Payment (affecting MC and VISA)
China's military defense contracts hacked and posted
LinkedIn
eHarmony
Yahoo
Nvidia
FormSpring
DropBox
Apple
Social Security
Barnes & Noble
Scotland Yard
the FBI
and in the last year:
Chinese hack of US nuclear facilities
Russian hack of NATO, US and eastern European militaries
US drones hacked by insurgents
https://www.google.com/search?q=scotland+yard+hacked&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#safe=off&q=militaries+hacked
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)They let their payment system get owned by hackers.