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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow many of you are scared of flying?
In the wake of the AA turbulence emergency.
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I am definitely scared of flying | |
11 (42%) |
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I am scared, but only in turbulance | |
0 (0%) |
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I am not scared of flying | |
13 (50%) |
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I never fly, I'm a wuss | |
2 (8%) |
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Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)I don't so much fear turbulence or crashing. I just hate swallowing my own anxiety at being up that high, and I find the whole experience around flying overall really unpleasant.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I used to LOVE flying, even in small Russian planes , but after 9/11 I was all fuct up.
:/
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Canada plenty of times ... and then 9/11 sort of dampened my enthusiasm.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)I hate the whole process. I'm not good at waiting around for things. It used to be a lot more convenient.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Here in Orlando they only have a few restaurants. In Miami you had plenty to chose from , but here is either between Outback Steakhouse or some other hard to remember place. I always go to Outback , eat lots of shrimp and take my anxiolityc med.
I hate being scared of something I once used to love
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)on the ground. Maybe that will help? Hopefully?
I'm the biggest wimp in the world, but other than the unwanted TSA groping, the forced nudie shots they'd take of me and the annoyance of being anally probed, I think I would enjoy flying.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)but not from a plane wreck.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)"Airplanes may kill you, but they ain't likely to hurt you."
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)CTyankee
(63,903 posts)I've got packing down to a science. My airline reservation is confirmed. I got thru security with barely a problem.
My payoff is what I find on my trip. The art! My big thing. But lately I have been interested in just the culture of another European country, food and wine. Art I've explored already. This is different. It is wonderful...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)up to your expectations. Bet it will.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)What kills me is the jet lag when I get back.
rock
(13,218 posts)But that's not the reason I don't fly. It sucks.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)My mom read it then put it in a brown paper bag to throw away. I fished it out and read it myself and didn't tell mom until I was an adult.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I just don't have the body for it.
Flying should be left to skinny dudes, preferably with wings.
I did skydive over the north coast of Oahu two years ago, however, but that was more like falling than flying.
sarisataka
(18,600 posts)as long as there is an airplane wrapped around me without that it's a little touch and go.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)No matter how many flights I've taken, it's always a bit nerve racking.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts),,,thing is never going to get off the ground...it being loaded with people, fuel and baggage to the max.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)It just doesn't come up as any kind of opportunity for me in daily life. I wish it did. I would love to be able to fly somewhere else and leave the zealot right wing homophobic rednecks in my area behind for a vacation or something, maybe go to Oregon. That would be nice for a couple weeks or something.
But, alas, I never get to fly off into the wild blue yonder and enjoy another nicer place.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Heavily medicated.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I wish I knew what to say other than there seem to be less wrecks in the sky than on the ground. They say flying is safer and I tend to believe them. If you fly over NC anytime, just remember I'm down here wishing you peace, safety, and tranquility on your flight.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I really can't afford not to fly, since I have family abroad. The stats don't really help me. It's something unconscious that happened after 9/11. I used to really love flying, no matter how bumpy the flight was.
I trully believe 9/11 screwd up everything.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)The turbulence on the Seoul-DFW flight was very rare, that's why it was on the news.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)It happened to me too, it just didn't make the news.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Turbulence happens. Turbulence that lasts over an hour and diverts a plane - rare.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)If one commercial flight a day crashed, no one would say it is rare.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I am much more afraid when a crazy taxi driver is driving me to or from the airport.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)They drive like they're trying to kill you
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)where the traffic flows. Driving down the wrong side of the street for a while to scout parking spaces is considered perfectly normal. All signaling is done with the horn. Unlike Paris there aren't malicious drivers but the "Look out everybody, I coming through now! Good luck!" attitude rules the day. It is fucking TERRIFYING.
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)I just focus on other things, put on my headphones and listen to something.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Our plane came down on a small plane, our pilot literally took our plane back up at what felt like a 90 degree angle..and circled in the air for the next 30mins....he finally told us what happened
has not bothered me in the slightest, I average about 100K miles per year flying..
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)But I'm a glider pilot, and we're weird that way.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Good for you
Without meds I would probably have a heart attack and die.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)If I ever win the lottery I will contact you
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Seriously, terrified.
Nevada Blue
(130 posts)I've never had any turbulence like this recent event, but I like an 'e' ticket ride. It makes me feel like I'm flying; a totally calm flight is too much like sitting still, which is more disconcerting for me. Didn't fly at all until I was in my 30s, but I love it and every time I see a plane in the sky I wish I was on it.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)Not anymore. I don't love turbulence, but my brother-in-law is a pilot and has assured me as long as I keep my seatbelt on when I'm sitting, I'll be okay. That knowledge, and Xanax, have assured me I will see the world. I've got trips to Costa Rica, Mexico, and Spain this year (work related).
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I owe seeing my family to it
bluesbassman
(19,370 posts)Last flight I took with her (she passed in '97) she dug her nails into my arm so hard she actually drew blood. She was a trooper though, as we had an occasion to go visit a friend who was in the hospital up in St, Helena and his dad owned a small plane and offered to fly us up there. The nearest airport is at Angwin and it's a side of the mountain decent onto a postage stamp size runway. Mom was in the back seat so she couldn't get at my arm for that one, but somehow she managed to survive the flight!
Here's what the approach looks like.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)I just don't enjoy the people portion of it.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)I do it ... oddly my job requires travel ... I will drive if I can, but end up flying several times a year.
It requires prescriptions and alcohol to do so (I can say, that I rarely drink and don't take drugs ... so when I do it takes relatively small amounts).
I don't know that I would ever be able to get back on a plane if I experienced what those folk did!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Never been scared since and now I can sleep on planes. I've been through some pretty bad turbulence but the planes are designed to tolerate multiples of those stresses.
The only thing that frightens me is how achy I am going to be after being jammed into one of those ludicrous seats for a few hours.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)the experience is miserable. Maybe it will be less annoying as hell now that I don't smoke but it has definitely become unfun and crappy.
I also hate the spam in a can factor. Flights are jam packed with seemingly tiny seats but if I was wealthy and flying private it would be love or even well off and could go first class it would be awesome.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I had it once due to missing my flight to LA from Houston (horrible weather here) so Quantas comped me a seat in business class to Sydney (and then coach to Auckland, where I was originally headed.)
And another DUer gave me a site called "Lux Flights" but I can't find it in a search. I think this site is the same, considering it's all heavily discounted business and first class seats:
http://www.skyluxtravel.com/
Warpy
(111,245 posts)I was seven and the landing gear wouldn't descend all the way. The plane circled the field for half an hour while all the fire trucks and ambulances assembled. I was so air sick I didn't care.
The belly landing produced bumps and bruises, the pilot was an excellent one.
So if you see me on a plane, know it's not going to crash.
I dislike flying because it's always been cattle class and that's just how I feel. It's crowded and stressful.
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)When I was growing up, we went by train or car. It was only when he was in his
80's--during the 1990's--that he finally agreed to fly again.
madokie
(51,076 posts)and 727 were the planes we flew on. 747 had just hit the scene when I took my last flight. I like flying in small planes too, in fact thats where the fun is. I'll never forget my first flight in a piper cub and it was like riding in a wood wheeled wagon on a rough trail, rougher than hell and had me worried at first then the guy flying told me that this is normal. Nothing like flying in the big planes. The only place I experienced flight turbulence of any size was coming in to Los Angeles from the east. We dropped 350 ft one time or so the pilot told us
MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)Metallic joints in left knee and right thumb set off the magnetometer EVERY bleeding time.
They would make you take off your shoes, but rarely have a place for you to sit to put them on again afterwards.
Airlines charging for things that should be included (one of these days they're going to start charging "insurance" for the emergency oxygen masks)
This is why, anything less than 1500 miles, I prefer to drive.
DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)My problem is that I have a panic disorder, and part of my personal coping strategy for dealing with said panic disorder is having an escape plan in case a panic attack starts at any given time.
Having an escape plan on an airplane at 35,000 feet is pretty much a non-starter. This, in and of itself, is enough to give me a panic attack -- it's kind of like telling people not to think of pink elephants, and suddenly all you can think about is pink elephants.
I can drug the crap out of myself and pull a direct flight off (I think), but if I'm going to have to change planes I MUST have someone go with me, no matter how good or plentiful the tranqs are.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)but somehow outgrew it mostly. I'm still nervous in turbulence, but have made my peace with it. Maybe it's about getting older and not caring so much anymore about things like my kids not having a mother. It's just not the way I'd prefer to depart this earth: falling out of the sky (especially into icy water).
Now, ask me about bridges. I get terrified when you drive onto a bridge and have to stop and wait. Terrified.
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)It used to be fun to travel somewhere. Now it's a PITA.
And if we are making a trip longer than 3 hours? I book business class.
I can't stand being squeezed in next to people--3 across or more--
so if I don't have frequent flyer miles to upgrade, I don't plan a trip
unless I can afford the business class fare.
If I can make a more than 3 hour trip by breaking it up into segments, I will
fly coach. But if it's international and no way to break it up...then the budget
needs to allow for business class or having the miles to upgrade.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Also flying thru thunderstorms -- other than that I'm alright.
KT2000
(20,576 posts)the middle part is kind of boring.
It still feels like a miracle to me that these huge beasts can just sail through the sky - and those engines are so freaking powerful - fantastic!!!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)to the airport!
It's the middle part when I had time to think about....THERE'S NOTHING UNDER MY FEET! That thought came to dominate, and now I won't fly.
KT2000
(20,576 posts)I consider it about the only time that I am free of any responsibilities and I have to trust the pilots to get us wherever and fate will take care of the rest.
Maybe think of it this way - there is part of the airplane under your feet and it has tons of wires and whatnot that are necessary for the plane to fly. Lots of great minds put these things together - from the design stage to the completed product.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)bulence and came to regard it as like a bird's flight, have read many books on crashes and near-crashes to know the odds of survival and percentage of "pilot error"---the whole schmear!
I just can't bear the sensation any more!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)The air filtering and circulation equipment on planes sucks as far as I can see.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)Just love looking out the window and trying to identify landmarks.
Fascinating.
Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)Any time I get a tiny bit worried I just run the stats in my head and then I am good.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)But not terrifying. I fly so infrequently (about once in 10 years) that it really does not matter.
However, I HATE HATE HATE when I'm seated next to an obese person and I get 1/2 a seat instead of a full seat (on my last flight this happened, she immediately put the armrest up and was occupying my seat the entire flight).
hunter
(38,310 posts)If I was emperor of earth I'd ban it.
Pakhet
(520 posts)I refuse to be treated like cattle.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Although crashing would clearly suck. There's also some sort of wrongness about it that bothers me about being so far off the ground.
I did fly once when I was a little kid. That age when it doesn't really occur to you to be afraid of anything. I flew by myself, too, and it was a business flight. Me and a whole lot of grouchy men in suits that drank too much. I think I had the grouchiest one sitting next to me. It was only about an hour and a half flight, but I was just about at my limit for sitting in a seat next to a pickled grouch paging through a book and staring out the window. Clouds are only fascinating for so long.
Once I grew up I just couldn't stand even the idea of flying - the claustrophobia of it mostly. I get rubber knees just going to the airport to pick someone up, and I can't stand seeing planes taking off or landing.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I flew a few times as a kid and found it fascinating. Loved it - even though I was very worried about crashing as we had our flights booked, as it so happened, after a large number of major crashes in a short period of time. However, my mom reassured me it was statistically safer than driving and that was all I needed to stop being worried.
As an adult, I flew twice. Both times in a small commuter prop plane, both times with a baby on my lap. Both times with turbulence. The second time, after flying with a baby and a toddler, I swore I'd never fly again. My then-husband had to watch the kids because I took gravol to calm my stomach and it made everything way worse - apparently I turned green, LOL. The gravol did nothing to help my stomach and then made me panic because I didn't have my wits about me. Also, there was something totally unnerving that if my plane crashed my whole family would be wiped out...never did fly after that. I might fly again when my kids are grown up, but I don't think I could climb on a plane with my kids at the moment. Can't afford it anyway, so it's just as well. The claustrophobia bothers me too. Mostly I get scared I'll get stuck on the runway with a broken down bathroom (small bladder here, lol). Honestly, I just don't see the appeal. My parents fly regularly and complain about it constantly. All the crap they go through is just not worth it for me.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Cessna trying to get my private pilot's license, but I ran out of money because flying is expensive. Before I flew a small plane, I was sky-diving out of small planes. But I decided to stay in the plane and learn to fly it.
MiniMe
(21,714 posts)But I have gotten over in now.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)... should, to some degree, be afraid of flying.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Iggo
(47,549 posts)Seriously. Flying's a blast.
But I shit bricks (figuratively, mostly) when that plane hits the ground.
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Purveyor
(29,876 posts)nilesobek
(1,423 posts)I would only fly in a family emergency and that hasn't happened yet.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)In the wake of the AA turbulence emergency.
I was out of the house for awhile today and so I don't have a clue as to what you are referring to.
By the way, have a Merry Christmas.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The video is posted in replies 43 and 44 in the thread:
Holy crap. Crazy turbulence diverts American Airlines flight 280 to Japan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5970700
Merry Christmas!
RushIsRot
(4,016 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I don't fly now because of Vaterland Security.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... but I don't particularly enjoy it I wouldn't go all the way to "scared", maybe just a bit nervous.