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People Try Vegan Cheese For The First Time (Original Post) snooper2 Dec 2014 OP
That was pretty funny. HappyMe Dec 2014 #1
Some of it is OK in a sandwich Warpy Dec 2014 #2
Daiya melts and stretches. Codeine Dec 2014 #31
I like "Better Than Cream Cheese" better than cream cheese Warpy Dec 2014 #34
Okay, that was funny. FLPanhandle Dec 2014 #3
I agree, as I am a vegetarian RebelOne Dec 2014 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #15
uh. huh. uppityperson Dec 2014 #18
I'm neither but I can understand many of the moral arguments. That said, Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #21
Or, With A Good Ale! n/t ozone82 Dec 2014 #25
I'm okay with tofu variations as tofu variations. hunter Dec 2014 #4
Around here, they go for water guzzling invasive species near the river Warpy Dec 2014 #8
Really? In NM? KamaAina Dec 2014 #9
Well, the good news is that no animals suffered Glassunion Dec 2014 #6
Sounds like they got the mold right for the blue version. MineralMan Dec 2014 #7
Vegetarians can eat anything vegans can eat. KamaAina Dec 2014 #10
Beer is only off the menu if "isinglass" isn't used kentauros Dec 2014 #11
So help me, I thought isinglass was a type of mica! KamaAina Dec 2014 #12
It is a weird word, kentauros Dec 2014 #13
It is that, too. The word means both things. MineralMan Dec 2014 #24
It is. It's both, actually. MADem Dec 2014 #26
I thought it was where Saruman made all of those orcs. :) n/t Silent3 Dec 2014 #33
That's Isengard. KamaAina Dec 2014 #35
Yes, I know. I'm making a small joke. MineralMan Dec 2014 #23
A small wheel of a great cheese, hifiguy Dec 2014 #14
My wife, she make this cheese... VScott Dec 2014 #16
its is NOT cheese. it should be given some other name nt msongs Dec 2014 #17
Why??? I call the stuff in my Belly Button cheese. dilby Dec 2014 #20
Unilever thanks you for your support. nt flvegan Dec 2014 #32
Really not bad deaniac21 Dec 2014 #19
I've tried that Daiya and it is NOT good. IcyPeas Dec 2014 #22
Weird. My family loves it. Codeine Dec 2014 #30
I'm far from a vegan winterwar Dec 2014 #27
Well, I am Vegan for 25 years now.. and I thank you for this recipe from detoxinista, winterwar! Cha Dec 2014 #29
Enjoy winterwar Dec 2014 #36
funny Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #28

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
2. Some of it is OK in a sandwich
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 04:22 PM
Dec 2014

Parmesan is what they got right first, it's superior to whatever that crap in a green can is, so for something to shake on your spaghetti, it will do if you don't have an ultra expensive block of the real thing to shave over it. It doesn't melt, so having it in crumbles works fine.

Of the mass marketed vegan sliced cheese, Tofutti is the best. All their fake dairy stuff is acceptable to downright good.

However, if you want cheese to melt and get nice and stringy, you need to use the dairy stuff for now.

Watch out, cows, the veg heads are gaining on you.

(Lactose intolerant occasional meat eater talking here)

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
31. Daiya melts and stretches.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 12:24 AM
Dec 2014

No idea how they do it, but it works.

Tofutti makes amazing cream cheese. My fiancée isn't vegan but she won't use anything else.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
34. I like "Better Than Cream Cheese" better than cream cheese
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 12:58 AM
Dec 2014

but it's so expensive it's a rare treat. Tofutti got that one exactly right, too, great consistency and just a little tangier than Philly.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
3. Okay, that was funny.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 04:28 PM
Dec 2014

Good cheese paired with a nice red wine is one of life's pleasures. I don't think I'll ever try this and not sure why anyone would give up the real stuff for a bad substitute, but to each their own.



RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
5. I agree, as I am a vegetarian
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 04:40 PM
Dec 2014

and could not become a vegan because I love dairy products too much. There is nothing that could replace real cheese with a substitute.

Response to RebelOne (Reply #5)

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
21. I'm neither but I can understand many of the moral arguments. That said,
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 07:27 PM
Dec 2014

what is the harm in harvesting eggs and milk raised humanely. I have chickens and a pair of goats and they produce more than they require for their own ends and I love to spoil them with wide ranges, good food and affection.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
4. I'm okay with tofu variations as tofu variations.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 04:39 PM
Dec 2014

Even blue "cheese" tofu variations. Just tell me it's tofu before I take the first bite.

That said, my niece is aiming for goat milk cheeses in her university education.

Unlike our dairy and cattle rancher ancestors, who despised sheep and goat herders, in comparison to cows goats will eat anything and they don't take up so much space.


Warpy

(110,913 posts)
8. Around here, they go for water guzzling invasive species near the river
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 05:08 PM
Dec 2014

and leave the native trees alone. They've been used to clear the edges of the river for quite a few years now since they're much more efficient than crews with shovels and chain saws. I wish they'd be used the entire length of the river, get rid of all the salt cedar once and for all.

It's funny around here. It's very declasse and hillbilly to admit you eat goat, but most families have it in the freezer for when there's month left over after the paycheck.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. Really? In NM?
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 05:27 PM
Dec 2014
It's very declasse and hillbilly to admit you eat goat


Have they not heard of birria there? It's a Mexican goat stew, served at many Bay Area Mexican joints as a weekend special.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
7. Sounds like they got the mold right for the blue version.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 04:55 PM
Dec 2014

Wait...is mold a plant or an animal. I guess it's a plant, with some animal qualities. Really, though, it's neither. It's a fungus. Separate group of organisms. So, can fungus really be vegan? I suppose so. It's not an animal, but it's not really a plant, either. I guess vegans can eat fungi, but maybe not vegetarians.

Too much trouble. I think if I want cheese, I'll have some cheese.

I like vegan food, but not when it pretends to be something else. I'm funny that way.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. Vegetarians can eat anything vegans can eat.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 05:29 PM
Dec 2014

But not vice versa. And I'm pretty sure vegans eat mushrooms, which are also fungi. So are yeasts, which lets beer off the hook.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
11. Beer is only off the menu if "isinglass" isn't used
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 05:37 PM
Dec 2014

in the beer-making process. It's fish-bladders, and is used as a kind of filtering called "fining." I stopped drinking Bass Ale because of that. When I get home, I'll post a site that rates beers based on their veggie-friendly (or unfriendly) status

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isinglass

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
24. It is that, too. The word means both things.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 08:50 PM
Dec 2014

Context lets you know which is meant. The don't call me MineralMan for nothing. Fish bladders or discounted, and I'm on it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. It is. It's both, actually.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:08 PM
Dec 2014
A second meaning for isinglass relates to thin, transparent sheets of mica, a silicate mineral that sounds a lot closer to side curtain material.


http://simanaitissays.com/2013/04/09/isinglass-curtains/
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. A small wheel of a great cheese,
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 05:47 PM
Dec 2014

such as Gorgonzola, Stilton, Brie or (especially) Epoisses with a glass of truly fine wine of the Burgundy, Bordeaux or Port persuasion is one of life's most sublime pleasures. I will give it up only after they have attached the toe tag to me.

As some poetic gourmand once said, cheese is milk's bid for immortality.

IcyPeas

(21,747 posts)
22. I've tried that Daiya and it is NOT good.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 07:38 PM
Dec 2014

I am a vegetarian so I am able to eat cheese made with non animal rennet. They use microbial enzymes. This is a list of vegetarian cheeses: I love x-sharp cheddar.

http://cheese.joyousliving.com/CheeseListType.aspx

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
30. Weird. My family loves it.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 12:21 AM
Dec 2014

I'm vegan so we use a lot of that stuff around here and they're all quite happy to eat it. There's a pizza place in the next town over who do a bang-up business using Daiya on their pizzas and calzones an shit.

winterwar

(210 posts)
27. I'm far from a vegan
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:10 PM
Dec 2014

But this vegan cheese sauce is amazing. I can not believe how good it. I make it once a week now, the kids loves it too. He still thinks it's real cheese sauce. And yes I still love and eat real cheese frequently. This is just isn't nearly as rich and heavy as traditional Mac n cheese.


http://detoxinista.com/2011/01/move-over-kraft/

Cha

(295,929 posts)
29. Well, I am Vegan for 25 years now.. and I thank you for this recipe from detoxinista, winterwar!
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 11:48 PM
Dec 2014

winterwar

(210 posts)
36. Enjoy
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:36 AM
Dec 2014

I have used macadamia nuts instead of cashews as well. They gives the sauce a richer flavor. This one is a go to when I have to cook for a vegan and a meat eater. Its a crowd pleaser.

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