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Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:41 PM

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Playinghardball Apr 2012 OP
11 Bravo Apr 2012 #1
pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #2
panader0 Apr 2012 #3
hughee99 Apr 2012 #4
CBGLuthier Apr 2012 #5
waddirum Apr 2012 #6
cali Apr 2012 #7
lunatica Apr 2012 #8

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:47 PM

1. Surprisingly, neither of them ever saw a war they didn't fully support. But ... you know ...

neither of the candy-ass chickenhawks was ever sufficiently motivated to go ahead and actually FIGHT in one of them. Go figure.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 05:12 PM

2. The graphic should be headed 'Chickenhawks' instead of 'Draft Dodgers'

Many evaded the draft in service to anti-war principles generally, or opposition to a particular war--often on moral grounds.

A chickenhawk is someone who hypocritically dodges serving personally while calling for other mothers' sons and daughters to be sent to war.

They are two VERY different things.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 05:23 PM

3. In Dec of '68 I registered for the draft in Hawaii

I told the folks at the draft that I wished to register as a consciencious objector. They asked me if I was Quaker or Amish and I said no, I just don't believe in going to another country and killing the people for reasons I did not believe in. I was denied on the spot.
I had met David Harris in Sept at my college in Oregon (noted anti-war protestor, president of the Stanford student body, and husband to Joan Baez) and he had helped convince me not to register. When I went back to Hawaii in Dec to see the parents, I was already deliquent. My dad, a career Air Force officer, went nuts. I was sent to an Air Force lawyer and a priest, but it wasn't until my mom told me that I was killing my dad that I decided to register. I was in college and had that deferment until I was expelled for having a girl in my dorm room. I drifted in Oregon, picking fruit with migrant Mexicans, working in the woods, etc. I had a general delivery mailbox, and when I saw a months old notice to report to my draft physical in Hawaii, I threw them away. So, in my own way, I am a draft dodger too. But unlike Cheney or Nugent, I am against all wars.
A few years later, I did take my physical in Phoenix.....that's a whole 'nother story.
Bottom line is that I have never served in the military. I have a tremendous respect for those that do. Peace.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 05:41 PM

4. People who have not served in the military

should not support any military action for any reason.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 05:45 PM

5. Bullshit to call deferments dodging

Just fucking bullshit really.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 07:09 PM

6. You could add Mitt Romney

who had more important things to do in 1968, like proselytizing LDS doctrine to the youth of Paris.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 07:43 PM

7. Jesse winchester was a draft dodger

being a draft dodger doesn't make someone evil

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 07:45 PM

8. Draft dodgers are heroes sometimes

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