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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 07:56 AM Apr 2012

Massive numbers of eyeless shrimps, eyeless fish, clawless crabs in US' Gulf of Mexico.


Does the fate of the US rest on the Gulf of Mexico?

If it is doing this to shrimp and crabs, what about the US food supply? Is anything safe? It surely has entered the water supply, sinking into conifers and water table.

Has the US forgotten about how truly massive this was? Have the massive health effects been covered up? How many have died as a result of this? Thousands? What about the babies? Is it worse than Fukushima?
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“eyeless fish, and fish lacking even eye sockets, and fish with lesions, fish without covers over their gills and others with large pink masses hanging off their eyes and gills.”

Rooks also said that her yield was about 10% of what it normally is and that she had never seen such deformities before.

Scientists are blaming the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) contained in the oil that is was released fro the well. There was also the two million gallons of the dispersant Corexit that BP used in an attempt to clean up the spill.

Riki Ott, a toxicologist and marine biologist explained to Al Jazeera,

“The dispersants used in BP’s draconian experiment contain solvents, such as petroleum distillates and 2-butoxyethanol. Solvents dissolve oil, grease, and rubber. It should be no surprise that solvents are also notoriously toxic to people, something the medical community has long known.”


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/222650/eyeless-shrimp-clawless-crabs-and-mutated-fish-found-in-gulf-after-bp-spill/#iWHmS4S2r2RExFOU.99
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Massive numbers of eyeless shrimps, eyeless fish, clawless crabs in US' Gulf of Mexico. (Original Post) Bonobo Apr 2012 OP
Don't blame big oil malaise Apr 2012 #1
Stupid response pipoman Apr 2012 #4
I see no hatred there Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #5
I see no God or Christians in the OP. rug Apr 2012 #39
Thank you pipoman Apr 2012 #46
Feeling persecuted? B Calm Apr 2012 #6
Just responding pipoman Apr 2012 #10
Christians run the USA, and yet they're the persecuted ones? Taverner Apr 2012 #35
What are you talking about? lonestarnot Apr 2012 #13
I too would like to know malaise Apr 2012 #29
Huh? malaise Apr 2012 #28
Who is "they"? pipoman Apr 2012 #32
I'll take the brunt of criticism: Christianity harmful to humanity Taverner Apr 2012 #36
Jus' can't help yourself can you.. pipoman Apr 2012 #41
Nah, I'm just sick of people feigning persecution when there is none Taverner Apr 2012 #42
Little touchy there, dude.... Taverner Apr 2012 #34
Yeah, It's the only outlet pipoman Apr 2012 #40
So if I say something bad about NAMBLA, am I a bigot? Taverner Apr 2012 #43
No, if you go around making veiled pipoman Apr 2012 #47
600% profit ,unlike corporations orpupilofnature57 Apr 2012 #2
Based on the picture logo's, you couldn't get this new nationally MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #3
+1 sarcasmo Apr 2012 #15
But how do they taste? Ezlivin Apr 2012 #7
Interesting that you should mention taste... chervilant Apr 2012 #16
+1 freshwest Apr 2012 #49
Yum - eyeless shrimp! jimlup Apr 2012 #8
And what will be the RNC mantra at their Tampa convention? lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #9
+20,853 Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #11
Ugh. (Un)Happy Earth Day tomorrow... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #12
Jumble eeee a. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #14
I am an attorney for Plaintiffs on the Gulf Coast against BP Dustlawyer Apr 2012 #17
Tumorlia. mmm mmm mm lonestarnot Apr 2012 #18
Wow, that is so fucked up and tragic. Bonobo Apr 2012 #19
it's not the people newspeak Apr 2012 #20
Americans didn't lose sight of anything. Rex Apr 2012 #25
FUCK YOU BP! lonestarnot Apr 2012 #27
I second that emotion! Rex Apr 2012 #37
+1,000 freshwest Apr 2012 #50
This is one of the greatest crimes in human history and the government is a partner in it. TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #21
rec SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #22
I know is easy to blame this on the BP oil spill and its very likely but.. DCBob Apr 2012 #23
How long before we begin seeing the human mutations? Our eyes. Gregorian Apr 2012 #24
Here's what NJ wants you to know about 2-butoxyethanol ... eppur_se_muova Apr 2012 #26
Anyone notice that its harder to find shellfish for sale in your markets these days? cascadiance Apr 2012 #30
A lot of Pacific shellfish where I live, but I won't eat it. freshwest Apr 2012 #51
If corporations are indeed people BP should get the death penalty for what they did. Fuck 'em. Initech Apr 2012 #31
Nothing to see here. Don't blame big oil. Blame the environentalists. Taverner Apr 2012 #33
It is kinda sad that Foxnews thinks they can Rex Apr 2012 #38
I know - on day one of the DH spill, FAUX was already accusing them Taverner Apr 2012 #44
Big pharma, oil etc. can always count on the CYA crowd Rex Apr 2012 #45
See, we can agree on this, pipoman Apr 2012 #48
BP takes the position that "fish have always had lesions." DirkGently Apr 2012 #52
Here's another good article.. DCBob Apr 2012 #53
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
4. Stupid response
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 08:13 AM
Apr 2012

taking any and every opportunity to project a hatred of peoples faith even without a segue of any kind..the only acceptable bigotry in these parts, eh?

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
46. Thank you
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 05:07 PM
Apr 2012

I don't argue religion. And I don't go to threads involving the worst ecological disaster in history to see it derailed by overt religious bigotry.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
35. Christians run the USA, and yet they're the persecuted ones?
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:12 PM
Apr 2012

A christian saying they are persecuted is them just saying they want to go doing what they do, saying what they say, unquestioned and uninvestigated

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
36. I'll take the brunt of criticism: Christianity harmful to humanity
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:13 PM
Apr 2012

This is not the place, nor is this the topic to debate this

But I'll meet you in the Religion forum any day and debate this topic

And I'll provide the coffee!

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
41. Jus' can't help yourself can you..
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:24 PM
Apr 2012

bigots will be bigots..


Note to jury..this is in a thread which has not a single thing to do with religion. These people who can't help but bring religion into threads (pro religion or anti religion) should be relegated to the groups we don't all have to frequent.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
42. Nah, I'm just sick of people feigning persecution when there is none
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:36 PM
Apr 2012

But my offer still stands

''Is Christianity good or bad for our species?''

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
34. Little touchy there, dude....
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:10 PM
Apr 2012

If your god really is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent, I think he can handle a little ribbing of his followers

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
43. So if I say something bad about NAMBLA, am I a bigot?
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:38 PM
Apr 2012

Not that Christianity is tantamount to NAMBLA, but a case could be made...

Still waiting for you to accept my challenge

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
47. No, if you go around making veiled
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 05:29 PM
Apr 2012

comparisons between NAMBLA and the faith of millions of Democrats you might be a bigot, however..

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
7. But how do they taste?
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 08:42 AM
Apr 2012

That's all that most Americans are curious about.

As long as they can be pan fried, baked, stuffed, marinated, deep fried, boiled, roasted or cooked to some level of palatability, they'll shove it down their gullets.

What we've allowed to happen to nature is very sad. We'll rue this one day, regardless of what press coverage it receives.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
16. Interesting that you should mention taste...
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 10:31 AM
Apr 2012

From a very young age, I've been hyper-sensitive to flavors and odors. My mother routinely asked me to sniff our milk (straight from our dairy cow twice a day) to make sure it was not 'turning' before she used it.

I ate gulf shrimp (boiled in the shell) once after the spill. I remember thinking I was smelling something chemical before I ate one. The shrimp I ate had not a shred of shrimp flavor (I grew up near Galveston, so I know the flavor of good shrimp). It did have a tiny hint of a metallic tone, and the flesh did not have the right texture (and, no, it was not overcooked). Needless to say, I did not touch another shrimp on that plate. I've not had seafood of any kind since that experience.

The Hoi Polloi has been fed an increasingly banal array of over-processed, sugar-laden, and hydrogenated oil-filled foods. Most of the produce we now buy has almost no flavor and significantly fewer nutrients than the produce our parents enjoyed. Savvy consumers are well aware that we must watch for reports of toxins in spinach and salad greens, and deadly e. coli in meats and eggs.

I have to wonder: how much longer can the crumbling 'Breadbasket' of our nation feed us and a large percentage of the world's population?!

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
17. I am an attorney for Plaintiffs on the Gulf Coast against BP
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 10:34 AM
Apr 2012

The medical and economic damages on the Gulf coast are severe and widespread. It is heartbreaking to see so many people sick and dying. Watching many lose cars, houses, and boats b/c they cannot fish or there are few tourists. There will be no shrimp, crabs and many other species in the Gulf by next year. They are almost gone now. BP never had an account with 20 billion in it. They only agreed to put so much per quarter in their fund. BP has only settled with the 20% who could not afford to wait to settle. Most got $5k total and the only livelihoods they know are gone. BP would not offer anything more. Now BP says they settled with all of the victims which is a complete lie. I am not talking about the frivolous case BS they stroll out in their press statements. Everything they say in the media is just designed to make people think or do what they want. Ken Feinberg said he was independent. The Judge signed an order saying he had always been BP's representative and must stop claiming it.
They media moved on after the well was capped to more important things like Charlie Sheen. Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow or anyone else has done any follow up stories. This class action settlement is a one sided joke? It is a trap and once a victim opts in to it, if he does not agree with the offer made, tough shit, they are stuck! None of the Republican governors have stood up for their people. They all took lots of oil money and their contractor buddies made a mint working the beach clean up. By the way, they used the Corexic to sink the oil to the bottom so it could not be sucked up and counted and thus fined. For this the Gulf will DIE! FUBP

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
18. Tumorlia. mmm mmm mm
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 10:50 AM
Apr 2012

26 billion dollar profit last year for BP fuckers! Sounds like it's already dead dude.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
19. Wow, that is so fucked up and tragic.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 11:28 AM
Apr 2012

I wonder why Americans and the media lost sight of the scale so easily.

So much mental energy put into Fukushima.

Is it because Americans would rather distract themselves with an ecological tragedy that has less of a direct impact on themselves?

Anyway, I wish you all the best fortune in the world in your attempt to seek redress for your clients.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
20. it's not the people
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 11:53 AM
Apr 2012

it's the corporate owned media. Yeah, some of us know the people in the gulf are hurting; but the government and the corporate media would like to "hide" it. Kind of "out of sight, out of mind." Oh, and how's that keystone pipeline going?

There are people in our government who would sell the whole american population down the toilet, for a giant corporation's profits. What's going on in La and other southern coastal areas is absolutely criminal.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. Americans didn't lose sight of anything.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:42 PM
Apr 2012

It is the second one that is the real culprit. The media is responsible for keeping as much of GWBs illegal war out of the news as they possibly could and that worked...people forgot all about the two wars overseas. This was noticed and is the MO of how the M$M works imo.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
23. I know is easy to blame this on the BP oil spill and its very likely but..
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:16 PM
Apr 2012

the Mississippi is also a massive source of toxins in the Gulf mostly from agrichemical use along river from the upper midwest to the southern delta areas. It might even be a synergistic effect of the oil, the dispersants and agrichemical toxins. Clearly there needs to be more research to determine the causes.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
24. How long before we begin seeing the human mutations? Our eyes.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:34 PM
Apr 2012

That is the first thing that hit me. I get the feeling people think this is just confined to the ocean. It's like Fukushima. This stuff is dispersing around the planet.

It was nice while it lasted. Right around 1974. Then the expansion began in double time.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
30. Anyone notice that its harder to find shellfish for sale in your markets these days?
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 03:56 PM
Apr 2012

It sure seems like its been that way more so since the Gulf spill. That's another telling sign of the hidden story of disaster that the f'ing corporate media are being paid to make sound like it's not happening.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
38. It is kinda sad that Foxnews thinks they can
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:16 PM
Apr 2012

blame environmentalist, yet cannot tell the difference between Africa and South America on a map.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
44. I know - on day one of the DH spill, FAUX was already accusing them
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:39 PM
Apr 2012

"YOoooooouuuu MAAAAAADE us do it!!!!!"

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. Big pharma, oil etc. can always count on the CYA crowd
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 04:46 PM
Apr 2012

at Foxnews to lie for them. We should force Fox to have to refile as a lobbyist group and not a news station.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
48. See, we can agree on this,
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 05:53 PM
Apr 2012

why must we bring the most divisive shit into topics which we should be enjoying agreement and fighting together to fix?

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
52. BP takes the position that "fish have always had lesions."
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 10:59 PM
Apr 2012

And apparently big naked lies and a tankerfull of political clout is all they need.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
53. Here's another good article..
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:38 AM
Apr 2012
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2012/04/22/america-s-gulf-disaster-revisited

The following quote is disturbing...

"And in my 20 years working on red snapper, looking at somewhere between 20 and 30,000 fish, I’ve never seen anything like this either." -- Louisiana State University’s Department of Oceanography and Coastal Sciences Dr. Jim Cowan

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Clearly something way out of the ordinary is going on here. I wonder if the oil and disperants that sank and collected on the sea floor is now getting into the Gulf food chain.

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