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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMassive numbers of eyeless shrimps, eyeless fish, clawless crabs in US' Gulf of Mexico.
Does the fate of the US rest on the Gulf of Mexico?
If it is doing this to shrimp and crabs, what about the US food supply? Is anything safe? It surely has entered the water supply, sinking into conifers and water table.
Has the US forgotten about how truly massive this was? Have the massive health effects been covered up? How many have died as a result of this? Thousands? What about the babies? Is it worse than Fukushima?
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eyeless fish, and fish lacking even eye sockets, and fish with lesions, fish without covers over their gills and others with large pink masses hanging off their eyes and gills.
Rooks also said that her yield was about 10% of what it normally is and that she had never seen such deformities before.
Scientists are blaming the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) contained in the oil that is was released fro the well. There was also the two million gallons of the dispersant Corexit that BP used in an attempt to clean up the spill.
Riki Ott, a toxicologist and marine biologist explained to Al Jazeera,
The dispersants used in BPs draconian experiment contain solvents, such as petroleum distillates and 2-butoxyethanol. Solvents dissolve oil, grease, and rubber. It should be no surprise that solvents are also notoriously toxic to people, something the medical community has long known.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/222650/eyeless-shrimp-clawless-crabs-and-mutated-fish-found-in-gulf-after-bp-spill/#iWHmS4S2r2RExFOU.99
malaise
(268,844 posts)It's gawd's will
pipoman
(16,038 posts)taking any and every opportunity to project a hatred of peoples faith even without a segue of any kind..the only acceptable bigotry in these parts, eh?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)It is a term used often by many Christians
rug
(82,333 posts)It was a stupid gratuitous remark.
I don't argue religion. And I don't go to threads involving the worst ecological disaster in history to see it derailed by overt religious bigotry.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)to an off topic, unnecessarily bigoted post.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)A christian saying they are persecuted is them just saying they want to go doing what they do, saying what they say, unquestioned and uninvestigated
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)malaise
(268,844 posts)Well they say they have been given dominion over the earth - by whom again?
pipoman
(16,038 posts)I just didn't see any such language in the article.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)This is not the place, nor is this the topic to debate this
But I'll meet you in the Religion forum any day and debate this topic
And I'll provide the coffee!
pipoman
(16,038 posts)bigots will be bigots..
Note to jury..this is in a thread which has not a single thing to do with religion. These people who can't help but bring religion into threads (pro religion or anti religion) should be relegated to the groups we don't all have to frequent.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)But my offer still stands
''Is Christianity good or bad for our species?''
Taverner
(55,476 posts)If your god really is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent, I think he can handle a little ribbing of his followers
pipoman
(16,038 posts)left 'round here where a bigot can be a bigot..
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Not that Christianity is tantamount to NAMBLA, but a case could be made...
Still waiting for you to accept my challenge
pipoman
(16,038 posts)comparisons between NAMBLA and the faith of millions of Democrats you might be a bigot, however..
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)species without lawyers ,have no rights.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Looks like Al Jazeera reported it...
Ezlivin
(8,153 posts)That's all that most Americans are curious about.
As long as they can be pan fried, baked, stuffed, marinated, deep fried, boiled, roasted or cooked to some level of palatability, they'll shove it down their gullets.
What we've allowed to happen to nature is very sad. We'll rue this one day, regardless of what press coverage it receives.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)From a very young age, I've been hyper-sensitive to flavors and odors. My mother routinely asked me to sniff our milk (straight from our dairy cow twice a day) to make sure it was not 'turning' before she used it.
I ate gulf shrimp (boiled in the shell) once after the spill. I remember thinking I was smelling something chemical before I ate one. The shrimp I ate had not a shred of shrimp flavor (I grew up near Galveston, so I know the flavor of good shrimp). It did have a tiny hint of a metallic tone, and the flesh did not have the right texture (and, no, it was not overcooked). Needless to say, I did not touch another shrimp on that plate. I've not had seafood of any kind since that experience.
The Hoi Polloi has been fed an increasingly banal array of over-processed, sugar-laden, and hydrogenated oil-filled foods. Most of the produce we now buy has almost no flavor and significantly fewer nutrients than the produce our parents enjoyed. Savvy consumers are well aware that we must watch for reports of toxins in spinach and salad greens, and deadly e. coli in meats and eggs.
I have to wonder: how much longer can the crumbling 'Breadbasket' of our nation feed us and a large percentage of the world's population?!
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Come on down - it's time to eat!
lpbk2713
(42,750 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,011 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)The medical and economic damages on the Gulf coast are severe and widespread. It is heartbreaking to see so many people sick and dying. Watching many lose cars, houses, and boats b/c they cannot fish or there are few tourists. There will be no shrimp, crabs and many other species in the Gulf by next year. They are almost gone now. BP never had an account with 20 billion in it. They only agreed to put so much per quarter in their fund. BP has only settled with the 20% who could not afford to wait to settle. Most got $5k total and the only livelihoods they know are gone. BP would not offer anything more. Now BP says they settled with all of the victims which is a complete lie. I am not talking about the frivolous case BS they stroll out in their press statements. Everything they say in the media is just designed to make people think or do what they want. Ken Feinberg said he was independent. The Judge signed an order saying he had always been BP's representative and must stop claiming it.
They media moved on after the well was capped to more important things like Charlie Sheen. Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow or anyone else has done any follow up stories. This class action settlement is a one sided joke? It is a trap and once a victim opts in to it, if he does not agree with the offer made, tough shit, they are stuck! None of the Republican governors have stood up for their people. They all took lots of oil money and their contractor buddies made a mint working the beach clean up. By the way, they used the Corexic to sink the oil to the bottom so it could not be sucked up and counted and thus fined. For this the Gulf will DIE! FUBP
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)26 billion dollar profit last year for BP fuckers! Sounds like it's already dead dude.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)I wonder why Americans and the media lost sight of the scale so easily.
So much mental energy put into Fukushima.
Is it because Americans would rather distract themselves with an ecological tragedy that has less of a direct impact on themselves?
Anyway, I wish you all the best fortune in the world in your attempt to seek redress for your clients.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)it's the corporate owned media. Yeah, some of us know the people in the gulf are hurting; but the government and the corporate media would like to "hide" it. Kind of "out of sight, out of mind." Oh, and how's that keystone pipeline going?
There are people in our government who would sell the whole american population down the toilet, for a giant corporation's profits. What's going on in La and other southern coastal areas is absolutely criminal.
Rex
(65,616 posts)It is the second one that is the real culprit. The media is responsible for keeping as much of GWBs illegal war out of the news as they possibly could and that worked...people forgot all about the two wars overseas. This was noticed and is the MO of how the M$M works imo.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)FUCK YOU BP!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)the Mississippi is also a massive source of toxins in the Gulf mostly from agrichemical use along river from the upper midwest to the southern delta areas. It might even be a synergistic effect of the oil, the dispersants and agrichemical toxins. Clearly there needs to be more research to determine the causes.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)That is the first thing that hit me. I get the feeling people think this is just confined to the ocean. It's like Fukushima. This stuff is dispersing around the planet.
It was nice while it lasted. Right around 1974. Then the expansion began in double time.
eppur_se_muova
(36,256 posts)http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0275.pdf
ETA: DUgle "butoxyethanol" to find other refs to toxicity -- there are many.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)It sure seems like its been that way more so since the Gulf spill. That's another telling sign of the hidden story of disaster that the f'ing corporate media are being paid to make sound like it's not happening.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Initech
(100,054 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)It's all their FAULT!
Rex
(65,616 posts)blame environmentalist, yet cannot tell the difference between Africa and South America on a map.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)"YOoooooouuuu MAAAAAADE us do it!!!!!"
Rex
(65,616 posts)at Foxnews to lie for them. We should force Fox to have to refile as a lobbyist group and not a news station.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)why must we bring the most divisive shit into topics which we should be enjoying agreement and fighting together to fix?
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)And apparently big naked lies and a tankerfull of political clout is all they need.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The following quote is disturbing...
"And in my 20 years working on red snapper, looking at somewhere between 20 and 30,000 fish, Ive never seen anything like this either." -- Louisiana State Universitys Department of Oceanography and Coastal Sciences Dr. Jim Cowan
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Clearly something way out of the ordinary is going on here. I wonder if the oil and disperants that sank and collected on the sea floor is now getting into the Gulf food chain.