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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:35 AM Apr 2012

**"Enhanced" ABC Photo shows VERTICAL scar! Recent photos shows HORRIZONTAL scar on ZMans head**

...I'm calling bunk

ABC's "enhanced" pics here

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Recently Released pic here

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The bleed source scares look to be in different places

Your take?

TIA

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**"Enhanced" ABC Photo shows VERTICAL scar! Recent photos shows HORRIZONTAL scar on ZMans head** (Original Post) uponit7771 Apr 2012 OP
I don't think it matters. So Zimmerman got a little scalp wound while he murdered somebody. yardwork Apr 2012 #1
Exactly!.... one_voice Apr 2012 #4
You're right McSpocky Apr 2012 #9
This whole case stinks McSpocky Apr 2012 #7
Trayvon has been undergoing a posthumous lynching. ananda Apr 2012 #44
Besides, if they want to turn this into a "who's wound is worse" contest eShirl Apr 2012 #10
That's true, doesn't really matter and the SYG doesn't say he can shoot a person after they call no uponit7771 Apr 2012 #11
I bleed more than that from shaving accidents... rfranklin Apr 2012 #26
They look identical mactime Apr 2012 #2
unnn, from what I'm looking at they're even in different places...one goes across the other goes dow uponit7771 Apr 2012 #12
Someone answer me this - if the police saw a wound that was THAT serious LynneSin Apr 2012 #3
THAT isn't serious Kali Apr 2012 #5
exactly LynneSin Apr 2012 #14
Right, if it was raining wouldn't the blood by the time they got there trickled to his T shirt at uponit7771 Apr 2012 #15
A scar is something very different from a fresh wound. n/t eShirl Apr 2012 #6
That is not the same head madokie Apr 2012 #8
GOOD OBSERVATION!!! uponit7771 Apr 2012 #13
so you are sticking with that theory I see snooper2 Apr 2012 #18
See...I figured it was the flash from the camera. vaberella Apr 2012 #19
Mine does. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #20
Okay then. So that's just the flash doing that. vaberella Apr 2012 #22
there seems to be a difference in Whisp Apr 2012 #31
Oh no. The poor little killer's head is bleeding. Lint Head Apr 2012 #16
looks like Zimmerman grew some hair in the cop car, too librechik Apr 2012 #17
Wow, never seen blood flow from nowhere!! Rex Apr 2012 #21
Meh..now that you mention it... vaberella Apr 2012 #34
I can only see it being real if he has a papercut on his head Rex Apr 2012 #36
Well I call the picture legitimate with just a few weird elements. vaberella Apr 2012 #23
Cognitive Dissonance much, people? NoodleyAppendage Apr 2012 #24
I find this picture legitimate. But it does not prove that Zimmerman did NOT stalk Trayvon. vaberella Apr 2012 #27
I think what you are seeing as "vertical scars" - Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #25
Which picture are you talking about? vaberella Apr 2012 #28
The police precinct picture -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #29
They are right, that is a vertical scar nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #30
Oh shit...I forgot about that. vaberella Apr 2012 #32
Yup, the wound on the right -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #38
wounds r 2 high on his head 2 suggest head being bashed while he was down. eom ellenfl Apr 2012 #33
I was thinking about that -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #39
i thought of the unlikelihood when i first saw his wound in the pd video. ellenfl Apr 2012 #40
His ear appears tighter to his head in the first photo than it is in the second one. shraby Apr 2012 #35
That's because it's turned further to the left in the first photo than in the second. JVS Apr 2012 #37
It strikes as rather unusual HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #41
Ding, ding, ding nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #43
Concrete is very abrasive HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #42

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
1. I don't think it matters. So Zimmerman got a little scalp wound while he murdered somebody.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:39 AM
Apr 2012

Trayvon had the right to stand his ground. Trayvon had the right to shoot and kill Zimmerman, who was chasing him. Zimmerman is lucky that he's the one who is alive.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
4. Exactly!....
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:43 AM
Apr 2012

I've been saying that. Didn't Trayvon have as much right to stand his ground as George Zimmerman? I have a feeling things would have played out differently had it been Trayvon that shot Zimmerman, instead of the other way around.

McSpocky

(6 posts)
7. This whole case stinks
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:46 AM
Apr 2012

It almost seems like Trayvon Martin is being murdered a second time in the press. Zimmerman should have been immediately arrested, and should not have been released on bail like he just was. The whole case stinks.

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
10. Besides, if they want to turn this into a "who's wound is worse" contest
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:50 AM
Apr 2012

Zimmerman has already lost.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
11. That's true, doesn't really matter and the SYG doesn't say he can shoot a person after they call no
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:53 AM
Apr 2012

...dice.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
12. unnn, from what I'm looking at they're even in different places...one goes across the other goes dow
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:53 AM
Apr 2012

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
3. Someone answer me this - if the police saw a wound that was THAT serious
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:41 AM
Apr 2012

wouldn't they have gotten some sort of medical attention on it?

And if so wouldn't there have been a record?

Kali

(55,007 posts)
5. THAT isn't serious
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:44 AM
Apr 2012

plus it was raining - that is nothing in terms of blood from a scalp injury.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
14. exactly
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:58 AM
Apr 2012

Zimmerman people make it sound like there was an open gashing wound - if there was treatment would have been sought.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
15. Right, if it was raining wouldn't the blood by the time they got there trickled to his T shirt at
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:58 AM
Apr 2012

...least?

Also if it was raining the blood would've had a diluted look to it all over his scalp

madokie

(51,076 posts)
8. That is not the same head
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:47 AM
Apr 2012

try as they may this dude in the last photo is bald on top where the murderer isn't to that degree

I'm sure he soon will be when the boys of cell block 7 gets their hands on him

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
18. so you are sticking with that theory I see
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:28 PM
Apr 2012

LOL..

As I said before, the wounds tell us nothing more about the case-

Are you going to travel down to watch the trial?

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
22. Okay then. So that's just the flash doing that.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:46 PM
Apr 2012

I figured it was the back of his head but it was a shallow cut. I also thought he would have wiped it. It doesn't look smeared at all...only leaking.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
31. there seems to be a difference in
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:15 PM
Apr 2012

the width of the head from ear to ear. one seems to be a bit wider than the other.

next step may be to check which police officer has a shaved head and played stuntman for Zimmerman. Apparently that pic was checked and embedded gps on phone confirms location and time.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
17. looks like Zimmerman grew some hair in the cop car, too
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:27 PM
Apr 2012

as well as getting stitches and the stitches healing.

I call BS too--but who is doing the bs-ing?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Wow, never seen blood flow from nowhere!!
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:41 PM
Apr 2012


Somebody didn't photoshop that picture correctly!!

Wow what a bumblefuck this is becoming!

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
34. Meh..now that you mention it...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:19 PM
Apr 2012

It does sort of remind me of the vampire blood you get at the store and smear on. It kind of leaks that way when you put it on.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
36. I can only see it being real if he has a papercut on his head
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:50 PM
Apr 2012

otherwise where is the darker area where the blood is coming from?

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
23. Well I call the picture legitimate with just a few weird elements.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:48 PM
Apr 2012

I was expecting smearing and it looks weird. But I don't know exactly what I have to see in order for his case to be justified. But if was pummeled...I would expect more damage than a few scratches...if you get my drift.

I would also expect him kept over at the hospital for possible concussion.

NoodleyAppendage

(4,619 posts)
24. Cognitive Dissonance much, people?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:50 PM
Apr 2012

How much disconfirming evidence is required to loosen the preconceived notion that Zimmerman willfully stalked and murdered Martin? Apparently pretty good evidence of a close struggle and injury to Zimmerman isn't enough...

Denial...it isn't just a river in Egypt.

J

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
27. I find this picture legitimate. But it does not prove that Zimmerman did NOT stalk Trayvon.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:59 PM
Apr 2012

Actually it reaffirms my belief that Zimmerman did follow Trayvon and there was a confrontation between the two. Was his head being smashed where he would be needing to be spooned fed by his brother? Hardly. I figured if that was the case he'd be in a hospital overnight for fear of blood clots and so on.

But there is no way you can suggest there is no willful stalking here. Further more I love how you mention only Zimmerman...Trayvon was fatally wounded...Zimmerman got knicks. And the evidence of the pursuit is clearly noted.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
25. I think what you are seeing as "vertical scars" -
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
Apr 2012

- are remnants of the blood path. It appears the EMTs may not have gotten scrubbed all the blood off him where it was most thick. Blood can leave staining on the skin.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
28. Which picture are you talking about?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:01 PM
Apr 2012

The first or the second. The second picture is 3 minutes after the shooting supposedly. Right before the cops came.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
29. The police precinct picture --
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:06 PM
Apr 2012

in the OP. The two vertical "lines" the OP is in his picture follows some of the heaviest blood trail in the on scene picture released today.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
30. They are right, that is a vertical scar
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:10 PM
Apr 2012

Already healed. Do they think we're idiots?

The blody photo shows very superficial injuries, nothing like what was described and no major bleeders, why the medics just cleaned it up. Oh and that does not require stitches from the angle presented.

Oh and that was taken by somebody on iPhone before cops arrived? Ok that raises a few more questions including the police report which says time of dispatch and arrival are the same.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
32. Oh shit...I forgot about that.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:18 PM
Apr 2012

You should bring that up in a post. There would never have been enough time for a picture on an Iphone because the cops got there right after...dude..now that is a more legitimate point; than just a "it's photoshopped."

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
38. Yup, the wound on the right --
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:55 PM
Apr 2012

looks like something I got when I fell down onto some pea gravel and got a small puncture wound. Looks like the amount of blood you get with an average nosebleed.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
39. I was thinking about that --
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:58 PM
Apr 2012

The only way that could work is if he was primarily on the grass but his head was coming in contact the edge of the cement pathway -- that might explain the placement of the wounds.

ellenfl

(8,660 posts)
40. i thought of the unlikelihood when i first saw his wound in the pd video.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 08:17 PM
Apr 2012

it seems to me that there are enough ear witnesses to piece a valid scenario together.

ellen fl

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
41. It strikes as rather unusual
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 08:45 PM
Apr 2012

That just moments after arriving at a homicide scene the cops are allowing people to enter the perimeter, contact, and take photos of the suspect. Isnt it usually the police who take photographic evidence at the scene?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
43. Ding, ding, ding
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:30 PM
Apr 2012

There is a reason we have a Tele as reporters.

Scene safety and security are top of list.

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