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sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:18 PM Nov 2014

Ferguson: No more votes for Claire McCaskill and Jay Nixon

It’s hard because it’s difficult to put into words the level of rage that I feel.

I keep on going back to the following pictures:







These were the pictures that were on my mind as I went to sleep.

That pain.
The unimaginable pain that their child isn’t even worth a trial.
Not worth a trial.

The entire proceedings were a farce. An absolute farce. From beginning to end.

These White folks have been so used to killing Black people and being unchallenged by it, that they are actually offended that they are being challenged.


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Ferguson: No more votes for Claire McCaskill and Jay Nixon (Original Post) sheshe2 Nov 2014 OP
The worst farce imaginable, she.. and yet here it is.. and the pain we have is nothing compared Cha Nov 2014 #1
"The problem is an American problem." Case closed. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #3
VOTING is the key kiri Nov 2014 #14
the Ferguson area has a high amount of transience pstokely Nov 2014 #15
thus no point in protests, or for the rest of us to care kiri Nov 2014 #17
We must take actions beyond voting. We must boycott and picket. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #30
The white leaders of the party are going to control who is running on the ticket. Black leaders are jwirr Nov 2014 #33
Yes, Cha it is an American problem and a white problem as well. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #7
Nixon is up in 2018 and Claire is up in 2018 yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #2
Nixon is term limited and can not run for reelection. Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #4
Well thank goodness for that! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #5
McCaskill might be running for MO Gov in 2016 pstokely Nov 2014 #13
Why would McCaskill leave a cushy US Senate seat, with all its perks, Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #16
because she'll probably lose in 2018 without another Todd Akin pstokely Nov 2014 #18
But if she doesn't think she could win a statewide race for Senate again, Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #19
MO has the gubernatorial elections during presidential elections pstokely Nov 2014 #20
Well, that might make some sense, Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #21
MO might be in play in 2016, Obama narrowly lost it in 2008 pstokely Nov 2014 #22
Dems (all white) won most of the statewide offices in 2008 and 2012 pstokely Nov 2014 #23
Arkansas and Missouri have had very similar voting patterns Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #26
think it's the state party that wants her to run pstokely Nov 2014 #28
Has she done something that has people upset again? The last time I saw her she actually came to jwirr Nov 2014 #34
Governor Nixon has been elected twice, Missouri has term limits. No one will vote for him again. George II Nov 2014 #6
But.....But.....But.....They're Democrats SoCalMusicLover Nov 2014 #8
Missouri is lucky to have both Nixon and Mcaskill lobodons Nov 2014 #9
i guess one difference is that the creepy ass gov in Florida didn't even come off as bad during the JI7 Nov 2014 #11
There are conspiracy theories about that... davidn3600 Nov 2014 #24
Kick & recommend. William769 Nov 2014 #10
~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #12
White, black, unite and VOTE for and against..... lexington filly Nov 2014 #25
I get being pissed at Nixon but what did McCaskill do wrong? craigmatic Nov 2014 #27
She covered for her boy the DA at the center of this bullshit bigdarryl Nov 2014 #29
Well that was stupid. She might as well go ahead and announce that she isn't running for re-election craigmatic Nov 2014 #31
Usually I disagree with anyone who says not to vote for a Democrat. BUT in this case I whole jwirr Nov 2014 #32
K & R GoneFishin Nov 2014 #35

Cha

(296,848 posts)
1. The worst farce imaginable, she.. and yet here it is.. and the pain we have is nothing compared
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:42 PM
Nov 2014

to what Michael Brown's Family is going through.. those pics of them say it all. And, all the Families who have lost their children because of gun violence and over zealous police brutality of whipping out their guns.. Shooting, no questions asked.


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Thank you for your OP, she~

kiri

(789 posts)
14. VOTING is the key
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:32 AM
Nov 2014

There is no serious effort to get the black community registered to vote---and then to actually vote. Of course, we need leadership, and candidates for mayor and city council. The black community could take power easily---but they are not doing it.

The recall petition failed. Voter registration has been a failure. The African-American community in Ferguson (and neighboring towns, like Country Club Hills) has more than enough potential voters to elect a reform team---and they could fire the entire Ferguson police department. That would be a real accomplishment.

Taking political power when there is a 70% majority should be a no-brainer, and can be done without a single fire. Where is the leadership?

If there were a genuine effort to elect leaders from the A-A community to govern Ferguson, many of us would donate thousands of dollars.

pstokely

(10,523 posts)
15. the Ferguson area has a high amount of transience
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:01 AM
Nov 2014

people move frequently and never register to vote

kiri

(789 posts)
17. thus no point in protests, or for the rest of us to care
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:09 AM
Nov 2014

Sad, if true. This means there is zero hope that the majority community can ever take control of their own community's government.

In which case, there is no point in protests, or for the rest of us to give a damn.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. We must take actions beyond voting. We must boycott and picket.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 10:41 AM
Nov 2014

We need peaceful demonstrations. We are long past the illusion that merely "voting" will save us. The voting apparatus is corrupt.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
33. The white leaders of the party are going to control who is running on the ticket. Black leaders are
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:23 PM
Nov 2014

going to have to get involved much earlier to have any say other than voting for the usual slate. I even wonder if they are not better off setting up their own slate on the local level.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
16. Why would McCaskill leave a cushy US Senate seat, with all its perks,
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:05 AM
Nov 2014

for a governorship? Usually, it's the other way around.

pstokely

(10,523 posts)
18. because she'll probably lose in 2018 without another Todd Akin
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:15 AM
Nov 2014

if she resigns from the senate, Nixon would be appointing her replacement until at least 2018, she could still lose even with another Todd Akin given lower turnout in Midterms, the other potential Dem Gov candidates don't have the name recognition as she does, Brownback did the same thing in KS

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
19. But if she doesn't think she could win a statewide race for Senate again,
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:16 AM
Nov 2014

how does she think she could win a statewide race for governor?

pstokely

(10,523 posts)
20. MO has the gubernatorial elections during presidential elections
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:21 AM
Nov 2014

higher Dem turnout would favor her if she got the nomination and ran, but maybe not after Ferguson with a potential lack of minority turnout

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
21. Well, that might make some sense,
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:35 AM
Nov 2014

but Missouri has voted for Republicans in all but two Presidential elections since 1980 (the exceptions being the two Clinton elections), so it seems like Presidential elections in Missouri would tend to favor Republican candidates at the state level.

pstokely

(10,523 posts)
22. MO might be in play in 2016, Obama narrowly lost it in 2008
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:50 AM
Nov 2014

but MO doesn't have the electoral clout of Ohio or Florida

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
26. Arkansas and Missouri have had very similar voting patterns
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 04:45 AM
Nov 2014

For example, in Presidential elections, the two states have voted exactly alike since 1972. The two states also have some Congressional districts that have been held by the Republicans since the 1960s. For statewide offices, Arkansas was strongly Democratic until the last two elections, when the Republicans managed to take control of virtually everything it seems. I don't see Missouri getting particularly progressive in the next two years, and my gut tells me that 2016 is not going to be a banner year for Democrats. If I were the Senator, I would consider just staying in the safe Senate seat, and take my chances in 2018.

pstokely

(10,523 posts)
28. think it's the state party that wants her to run
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:48 AM
Nov 2014

they lack other candidates with big name recognition

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
34. Has she done something that has people upset again? The last time I saw her she actually came to
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:25 PM
Nov 2014

Ferguson MO - or at least I think she did.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
8. But.....But.....But.....They're Democrats
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:21 AM
Nov 2014

So is McCullough. Parties are looking more and more alike every day.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
9. Missouri is lucky to have both Nixon and Mcaskill
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:35 AM
Nov 2014

Considering the alternative. Damn, Missouri is basically in the deep f'n South. Any Dems elected statewide is short lived.

Texas will go Blue before Missouri elects another Dem statewide candidate. Enjoy it while it lasts. (any Dem statewide elected official in MO.)

JI7

(89,240 posts)
11. i guess one difference is that the creepy ass gov in Florida didn't even come off as bad during the
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:42 AM
Nov 2014

Zimmerman trial. even though it was probably a political move on his part as there are more minority voters in flordia and florida is not as red as missouri . and he was willing to listen to others and not spout stupid shit .

because if he had behaved as jay nixon has the minority turnout this past election would have been even higher as people would have been angry to vote against him.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
24. There are conspiracy theories about that...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:00 AM
Nov 2014

A lot of players involved (Rick Scott, Pam Bondi, Angela Corey, Benjamin Crump, etc). There are some weird relationships there among those people. And some have drawn some interesting conspiracies...

But in any case, Florida managed it all better politically. Even though the prosecution did a poor job, they skipped the grand jury and went right to the trial....possibly for fear of exactly what happened in Missouri. The grand jury either might not have indicted Zimm, or may have indicted for a charge that is too high.

In Missouri, part of the issue though is I don't know if Nixon was able to appoint a special prosecutor unless McCulloch agrees to step aside. Florida's governor can do that in Florida. I believe Nixon can do it now since McColloch says he's not prosecuting. Nixon can appoint a special prosecutor and can go in front of another grand jury. It is NOT considered double jeopardy unless Wilson is acquitted during a trial. However, it doesn't appear Nixon is going to do that.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
29. She covered for her boy the DA at the center of this bullshit
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:10 AM
Nov 2014

After all it was her who said QUOTE! He is my friend

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
31. Well that was stupid. She might as well go ahead and announce that she isn't running for re-election
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:12 PM
Nov 2014

I don't see how she wins now.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
32. Usually I disagree with anyone who says not to vote for a Democrat. BUT in this case I whole
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:17 PM
Nov 2014

heartedly agree with you. This state either changes or we take action to make it change.

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