Sexism, intellectual laziness, giddy gah gah, and sweetheart

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Electric Larry (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Many responses to my "Women are Sexist Pigs" thread from the other night fall under intellectual laziness. It's pretty clear that I understand the historical context, loyalsister. That you missed it is just lazy. People came to that thread with pre-fab responses. Minds already made up and loaded for bear.

So many of the intellectually lazy, loyalsister, got stuck on, "giddy gah gah" and "swooning". None of you cared about what one of the women said about the way they behaved, i.e., the gah gah.

I left soon after and almost immediately received a text from D who said she was sorry she made me feel uncomfortable and it was totally hypocritical of her and she won't do it again. She went on and said I was totally right, if it was reversed (5 men talking about a hot female coworker), each one of them would be freaking out.

So, based on her words, it was a big deal from the point of view of a woman.

Not a hostile environment. I couldn't wait for them to slip up! We are a tight group. They love me and I them. But because of the historical context, I have to be careful, moreso than them. You should have noticed, loyalsister. Lazy...

re: sweetheart
I was explaining this when I got locked out of the thread so it never got posted. "Sweetheart" is kind of a big deal in my field. The women work with older men who call them "Sweetheart" and "Sweetie". My coworkers are to correct them each time, saying something like, "My name is Kathleen, please address me by my name."

Other words on the no-no list:

Crazy: I can't believe that. That's totally crazy. (FAIL)
Nuts: You cannot be serious. That guy drives me nuts! (FAIL)

Sweetheart isn't really part of my vernacular, but I've been saying "crazy" and "nuts" for longer than they've been alive.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

1. meh...FWIW, some context

OP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025857968

[cyberswede]

2. There's a big difference between calling someone "Sweetheart" and "a sweetheart"

If someone (male or female) were to say, "You did a good job on that, Sweetheart," it would be uncool. If someone (male or female) were to say, "Thanks for your help - you're such a sweetheart," that's NOT uncool.

Get it?

One of those examples would only be directed toward a woman; the other is gender-neutral.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

5. I didn't see that. And I indeed said "a sweetheart"

That helps, thanks

[Sheldon Cooper]

3. So, this is in fact a callout thread.

You're calling loyalsister 'intellectually lazy'. This should go well.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

4. What are the rules about that on DU?

Is it formally a no no under site rules, or just incredibly bad taste, and only done by total asshats?

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

9. The rules are enforced by the DU mob

The mob determines they'll keep posts of posters they like. Mob rule.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

6. If loyalsister used a less offensive (?) word...

I could have used that. I'm just using her words.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

8. upshot: don't quote someone and use their words against them

Gottit!

[tammywammy]

10. This is a shitty call out. You should delete it. n/t

[tammywammy]

13. It's nice that you're getting to use your new phrase.

I did read your stupid shitty OP. You're still complaining or is it boasting about catching women being sexist. Big fucking whoop. It was resolved, right? Yet, here you are bringing it up again. It's not shocking that women can be sexist. You rightfully called them out and they apologized. Move the fuck on.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

14. FAIL. it is a big fucking deal. I'll prove it here in time

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

12. loyalsister probably agrees with me on that

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Locking

GD SOP prohibits "whining about DU". Thanks!