HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » RimJob Cries Uncle!
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:36 PM

RimJob Cries Uncle!

For fifteen years, the Wizard of the cesspool FreeRepublic has been beyond adamant that his little sewer would never -never- adopt an advertising, pay, or membership model. Well, what have we here?

... the beginning of the end? One can but hope.

"Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model"
April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 16:22:35 by Jim Robinson

I've checked with an ad agency. We can probably raise the funds we need to operate FR at our current level and at the current market price for online advertising if we run a banner ad at the top of every page and at least one rectangular ad in the above the fold body of the page and a couple rectangular ads in the sidebar. If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be. But of course, if we go full bore commercial, we'd have to insure strict copyright compliance with very brief excerpting of all articles to avoid lawsuits. And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.

Or, of course, there's always the membership model. We could setup a members only system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc.

I don't like either of the above models and think we'd soon lose a lot of our readers and participants. Of course that may happen anyway if we can't fund it and if we cannot get our equipment problem under control, or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.

The donation model has served us very well since 1997 when we first started using it. It's very clean, uncomplicated and we attract participants who perhaps can't afford membership dues but do want to join the discussion and join our rallies, protests, prayer sessions, etc. And the advertising model would probably bring in the revenue, but it comes with strings attached.

I'm sure there are other ways and ways to combine features of various models, sell books, cds, gear, etc, offer no ads for paid subscribers, etc, even ISP services, but all of these also complicate matters.

I'm an old dog and I like to avoid new tricks, new complications, additional overhead, additional accounting, additional rules and regulations, etc, wherever possible. I like to stick to simplicity and with what works.

Thank you all very much for your continuing participation and support.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874129/posts

54 replies, 6302 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 54 replies Author Time Post
Reply RimJob Cries Uncle! (Original post)
TeaBagsAreForCups Apr 2012 OP
Zalatix Apr 2012 #1
muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #36
CJCRANE Apr 2012 #2
Union Scribe Apr 2012 #3
RZM Apr 2012 #4
white_wolf Apr 2012 #22
BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #14
Kaleva Apr 2012 #5
hootinholler Apr 2012 #6
Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #9
hootinholler Apr 2012 #27
Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #28
hifiguy Apr 2012 #39
Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2012 #7
smb Apr 2012 #54
NYC Liberal Apr 2012 #8
Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #10
Brickbat Apr 2012 #11
BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #12
janx Apr 2012 #52
Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #13
tanyev Apr 2012 #15
TeaBagsAreForCups Apr 2012 #34
Codeine Apr 2012 #16
anti-alec Apr 2012 #20
polly7 Apr 2012 #17
anti-alec Apr 2012 #21
polly7 Apr 2012 #24
freshwest Apr 2012 #35
muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #38
NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #40
snooper2 Apr 2012 #45
BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #53
Politicalboi Apr 2012 #18
Permanut Apr 2012 #19
Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #23
lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #25
TeaBagsAreForCups Apr 2012 #26
kiri Apr 2012 #30
mac56 Apr 2012 #46
jmowreader Apr 2012 #29
Sandy2k Apr 2012 #31
Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #32
Rowdyboy Apr 2012 #33
onethatcares Apr 2012 #49
NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #37
Erose999 Apr 2012 #41
Erose999 Apr 2012 #42
mojitojoe Apr 2012 #43
ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #44
rocktivity Apr 2012 #47
onethatcares Apr 2012 #48
TeaBagsAreForCups Apr 2012 #50
proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #51

Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:38 PM

1. Or he can get the eff off this socialist network altogether

 

The internet began as a DARPA project - NOT a private enterprise. The free market only piggybacked onto it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Zalatix (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 03:21 PM

36. And then a Brit working in a project of international govts in Switzerland invented the web protocol

and gave it away for free! Damn, the CERN tunnel even reaches into France! What kind of an self-respected American free market fanatic could bear to be such a looter of other people's work? RimJob should go back to the telegraph and Morse Code - there's a proper all-American private invention.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:45 PM

2. Um...sounds like Free Republic might have to...EVOLVE!

Is it possible?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:49 PM

3. He should just move it to a Tripod member site.

Or Geocities, that still around? I mean it already looks like shit and it's about as relevant as the Vanilla Ice fan pages still hosted there that haven't been updated since 1997, so why not?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Union Scribe (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:50 PM

4. Geocities isn't around anymore

 

It was acquired by Yahoo in the late 90s and they quietly put an end to it about 3-4 years ago.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to RZM (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:48 PM

22. Not completley acurate.

According to Wikipedia, it is available in Japan so he could move there, but I think America has caused Japan enough pain and suffering over the years, so that probably isn't a good plan.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Union Scribe (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:16 PM

14. Angelfire!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:55 PM

5. If they went full commercial, all the bad words would be filtered out...

making every post there seem like it was written by James Stewart. " Oh Golly Now! Shucks! Shucks I say! ",

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:58 PM

6. May they all be Rmoney ads. n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to hootinholler (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:07 PM

9. +1 Would you call that poetic justice?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 10:45 PM

27. More like

Karma running over their dogma.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to hootinholler (Reply #27)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 10:46 PM

28. I just hate when that happens.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to hootinholler (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 03:29 PM

39. You win the internets, hoot!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:58 PM

7. He 'spoke to an ad agency'?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:16 AM

54. Where's He Gonna Get Advertisers?

LOL -- what kind of ads could those losers attract? Buy-gold scams? Fake "herbal viagra"?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:05 PM

8. This will never work...

And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.


A word filter wouldn't work because of all the spelling mistakes in Freepers' posts.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:08 PM

10. Good thing for RimJob that the average freeper is too fucking stupid to install AdBlock Plus

"If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be."




Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:10 PM

11. I served myself a piece of Schadenfreude Pie and took the first bite when I read this one:

Seriously folks, this is just embarrassing, the display of hypocrisy here. We're all for doing it ourselves, and when it comes time to pony up for what we've used and enjoyed, TOO MANY of us stuff our hands into our pockets, whistle and slowly sneak away.


Now you're getting it, son!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:14 PM

12. He should just shut it all down

and put himself and the rest of his roaches out of their misery. Since the "establishment" pukes have spoken with their support of Rmoney and their heads have all exploded, time for the zombies to say goodnight.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:58 PM

52. YEP.

The Republican Party does not need or want them anymore. That crazy right wing heyday has ENDED.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:15 PM

13. I hereby nominate "Wizard of the cesspool"...

...as an officially recognized pseudonym for RimJob.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:18 PM

15. Wow, how do you "throttle back" when your starting point is already quite primitive?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to tanyev (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 08:22 AM

34. Rose Colored Glasses...

...Seems like one of the FR monkeys disagrees:

"FR is the best site on the web... great looking, user friendly, and obviously chock full of good info. Itís like an oasis.... no flashing ads or garish colors.

Anything you could do to maintain the visual integrity of the site would be appreciated."

93 posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 21:55:32 by Third Person

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:21 PM

16. All the ads would be for products and services from 1992,

in keeping with the general technological sophistication of the site.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Codeine (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:45 PM

20. Shock the Monkey!

 



Go ahead, that banner is real

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:26 PM

17. He needs to contact whoever set up North Korea's Gov't site. nt.



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to polly7 (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:46 PM

21. Or this idiot that made this gem

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anti-alec (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:53 PM

24. Holy sh* that hurts the eyes.

Is it real?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anti-alec (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 02:37 PM

35. Must have had that page designed by Infowars! LOL!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anti-alec (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 03:27 PM

38. See: the DU Skeptics Group Theory of Eye-Watering Web Design and Nuttiness

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anti-alec (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 03:42 PM

40. Warning, may cause seizures nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anti-alec (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:23 PM

45. Holy shit that's a horrible website



It should be taken down just due to the pure awfulness of it

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anti-alec (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 01:07 PM

53. OMG I finally got around to clicking on that link



It looks like this!



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:36 PM

18. How about a boycott

Any banners there should be addressed as to what kind of talk goes on over there. Worse than Rush Limpballs shit.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:30 PM

19. Great news, Teabags...

and good catch. I'm hoping Rimjob can manage to stay around until November, and keep screaming to all who will listen that Rmoney is a "abortionist/homosexualist/statist".

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:50 PM

23. News flash, nimrod: the creationist clucknuts who make up the GOP base are rich only in Cheetohs.

If you want actual money you'll need to genuflect before the feet of the all powerful abortion-enabling, TEH GAY lurvin' Mitt.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:59 PM

25. It shouldn't cost very much to run a website that looks like it is stuck in a 1995 time warp.



Come on DimJim, admit it. You just want to stuff more $$$ in your pockets and have your sheepies think you're doing the right thing at the same time. It might just work, you're dealing with willfully ignorant RWingnuts.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 09:33 PM

26. FR: What's A "RimJob"?!

RimJob Cries Uncle!
Democraps Underground ^ | 4/19/12 | The DUmp

Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 20:38:57 by Jim Robinson

RimJob Cries Uncle! ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874239/posts

... wherein the Wizard himself posts a thread dedicated to this DU thread - and the monkeys gather round to delicately discuss just what is a "RimJob" amongst their typical feces tossing, so to speak.

Hilarity ensues!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:20 PM

30. $1000/day

Robinson seeks $90,000 per quarter = $1000/day.

Does his LLC pay any taxes on these "donations" which he uses for personal expenses? What is the law? He has never released his tax returns.

He is a Vet. He receives many veterans benefits, disability benefits, VA benefits for health, about $900/month (catastrophic health threats are included, without him having to pay anything). Obviously, he is entitled to them.

But he is a major hypocrite---complaining endlessly about "big government" while taking its benefits. Which we taxpayers pay for.



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:24 PM

46. "Twenty bucks, Father, same as downtown!"

Sorry, old joke, couldn't resist.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:15 PM

29. There are a few problems he'd have to solve before going "full bore commercial"

Problem 1: you can't serve a commercial website from a Commodore 64. With the perma-begathon business model he uses, one would think he could at least afford a Walmart-grade PC.

Problem 2: no commercial entity is going to want to be served by a site that looks like his. Mr. Robinson, I know you're reading this so listen up: YOUR SITE LOOKS BAD. It looks like an antique. Like it was written when your hero Reagan was still in office...BTW you DO know Ronald Reagan signed 11 tax hikes, tripled both the deficit and the national debt, and committed textbook treason by arming Iran, right? If you really expect to become a commercial site, PLEASE transition to PHPbb, which is free and looks like modern software.

Problem 3: stalinist purges. How exactly he plans to stay in business if he zots everyone who supports the de facto Republican nominee I don't know. And, probably, neither does he but that never stopped him before. He is going to have to accept a slightly broader worldview on his site if he wants commercial support.

And none of these things are solvable so long as Jim Robinson owns Free Republic.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:22 PM

31. Free Republic is supporting Obama in 2012

Hey guys be nice to Free Republic- they oppose Mitt!

Jim Robinson feels the nation is better off with a second Obama term.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:22 PM

32. "I checked with an ad agency"

Translation - I found a google cache of a long since defunct message board where they said they were raking in MILLIONS!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:48 PM

33. Schadenfreude, sweet, sweet schadenfreude....

They're also fretting over the fact that we're making fun of them here for their woes. Their website was probably state of the art in 1993. Today, not so much....What unbelievable losers...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Rowdyboy (Reply #33)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:28 AM

49. since they started in 1997, they

were already 4 years behind with the 1993 technology they have.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 03:27 PM

37. "operate at our current level"

His method of funding isn't the only thing stuck in 1997

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 04:00 PM

41. Dear Free Republic: Eat shit!


You know, metaphorically.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 04:07 PM

42. The thought of a "Free Republic" ISP is ho-freaking-larious. They're barely able to run that shitty


their fucking TRS-80 server.

But it might be an improvement since most of the old Freepers are probably still connecting via AOL dialup, lol.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:11 PM

43. Maybe if they hadn't banned anyone who disagreed with JimRob?

Let's see...at the rate they are going it looks like they should make their second quarter financial goals about a week into the third quarter. Good business plan. </sarcasm>

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mojitojoe (Reply #43)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:19 PM

44. Welcome to DU!

It's a business?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:14 AM

47. "Or, of course, there's always the membership model.

We could set up a...system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc."

Eew, that's the Dumbest. Idea. Ever. Only a bunch of idiots would use the membership model...uh-oh...oops...sorry...


rocktivity

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:27 AM

48. maybe he should have a prayerathon for the hamster

I'm not really surprised that he wouldn't like additional accounting though.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to onethatcares (Reply #48)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:03 PM

50. Indeed, Over 20K$/Month into the RimJob's Family Pockets?

... from their published FR "Budget"

Monthly Expenses:

Bandwidth and Colocation $2,430
Systems and Programming 7,000
Management and Admin + Taxes 13,500
Legal and Accounting 1,000
Bank Fees, Credit Card Fees, Processing Fees 900
Equip, Maintenance and Repairs 600
Office Expenses, Rents, Insurance, Telephone, ISP, Supplies,Allowance for Declines/Cancels 2,500
Travel Expenses 1,200

Total: $29,130

https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/budget

(... if you can't access the link directly, go to http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm and scroll down to the headline "Who runs FR?" where you will find the link to the budget.)

Note the two highlighted categories; that's over 20K$/month - almost seventy percent of the "budget." In my opinion, any reasonable person will quickly presume, much less any nominal audit would probably determine - is "accounted" for in those two items that go directly, or quickly indirectly, into RimJob and his family's pocket.

As is apocryphally credited to P.T. Barnum, there is indeed one "born every minute." By selling hate, hypocrisy, and vile and incarnate evil, RimJob's presumably capturing a cool quarter million from his little cesspool of suckers every year.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TeaBagsAreForCups (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:06 PM

51. Two words, JimRob:

Conference call.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread