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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:39 AM Nov 2014

Yazidi Girls Seized by ISIS Speak Out After Escape

KHANKE, Iraq — The 15-year-old girl, crying and terrified, refused to release her grip on her sister’s hand. Days earlier, Islamic State fighters had torn the girls from their family, and now were trying to split them up and distribute them as spoils of war.

The jihadist who had selected the 15-year-old as his prize pressed a pistol to her head, promising to pull the trigger. But it was only when the man put a knife to her 19-year-old sister’s neck that she finally relented, taking her next step in a dark odyssey of abduction and abuse at the hands of the Islamic State.

The sisters were among several thousand girls and young women from the minority Yazidi religion who were seized by the Islamic State in northern Iraq in early August.

The 15-year-old is also among a small number of kidnapping victims who have managed to escape, bringing with them stories of a coldly systemized industry of slavery.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/world/middleeast/yazidi-girls-seized-by-isis-speak-out-after-escape.html?_r=0

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Yazidi Girls Seized by ISIS Speak Out After Escape (Original Post) oberliner Nov 2014 OP
A Jew escaping from Germany would have had a similarly horrific story. Different in details but pampango Nov 2014 #1
there is ample evidence that these stories are factual. cali Nov 2014 #2
I agree but I think others are more suspicious. Or perhaps just uncomfortable with pampango Nov 2014 #3
Did you watch the video? oberliner Nov 2014 #4
Yes. Yes. Yes. No. pampango Nov 2014 #5
Understood oberliner Nov 2014 #7
But Saddam didn't have babies thrown out of incubators, so clearly this didn't happen either. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #6
How many girls? coldbeer Nov 2014 #8

pampango

(24,692 posts)
1. A Jew escaping from Germany would have had a similarly horrific story. Different in details but
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:56 AM
Nov 2014

on some level equally 'unbelievable'. The problem is how do you know that the story that the Jew from Germany or the girl from Iraq in the OP are telling the truth. That's especially true if you don't know or don't like the policy implications of their stories being true.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
3. I agree but I think others are more suspicious. Or perhaps just uncomfortable with
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 08:21 AM
Nov 2014

the policy implications of accepting them as factual. That would be another similarity with the attitudes of many Americans about what was happening in Germany in the mid- to late-1930's and early 1940's prior to December 1941.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Did you watch the video?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 08:24 AM
Nov 2014

Did you see the quotes from ISIS militants acknowledging marrying off Yazidi girls?

You think these young girls may have just invented these stories?

You really think it could be all fake?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
5. Yes. Yes. Yes. No.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 08:53 AM
Nov 2014

I have seen much evidence of what IS is doing to young girls, women in general and anyone who opposes them.

My point, poorly expressed obviously, is that some will be suspicious because the evidence leads to policy implications that are uncomfortable. That is similar to our tea-party types with respect to climate change and to many Americans attitudes to events in Germany in the mid-30's to early-40's.

"We care. We should do something about it but there is nothing we can do.'
"We care. We should do something about it and will. The questions is what."
"We care but we should not do anything about it because it is none of our business. The girls (Jews) are not Americans."
"We care but we should not do anything about it because it is none of our business. Even if the girls (Jews) were Americans, it happened in another country."
"We don't care because the girls (Jews) are not Americans."
"We don't care because it happened outside the US."
"We just don't care. It did not happen to me."

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
6. But Saddam didn't have babies thrown out of incubators, so clearly this didn't happen either.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 09:04 AM
Nov 2014

And we can just go on comfortably believing that the alternative to Western interventionism is not all that bad.

coldbeer

(306 posts)
8. How many girls?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:11 AM
Nov 2014

What about our school shootings?
It's about our backyards too. Why don't
we spend as much time and money
on our problems as opposed to
their problems.

Oh, I say we should spend more money
fighting ISIS. Do not think I do not feel
for these girls.

BTW, I am coldbeer today and I had disappeared
(unintentionally) ... strange! I showed up as Erlewyne
a couple weeks ago. Erlewyne disappeared six years
ago. These computers are strange.

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