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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:37 PM Nov 2014

ROLLINGSTONE BLOCKBUSTER: Main Witness In JPMorgan Case BREAKS HER GAG ORDER


"I could lose everything. But if we don't start speaking up, then this really is all we're going to get: the biggest financial cover-up in history."





I've said it before: Rolling Stone is the only major publication digging into these stories. If you can afford it, buy a subscription. And now Matt Taibbi is back with a huge bombshell of a story: The main witness in the JPMorgan Chase settlement is breaking her gag order!



She tried to stay quiet, she really did. But after eight years of keeping a heavy secret, the day came when Alayne Fleischmann couldn't take it anymore.

"It was like watching an old lady get mugged on the street," she says. "I thought, 'I can't sit by any longer.'"

Fleischmann is a tall, thin, quick-witted securities lawyer in her late thirties, with long blond hair, pale-blue eyes and an infectious sense of humor that has survived some very tough times. She's had to struggle to find work despite some striking skills and qualifications, a common symptom of a not-so-common condition called being a whistle-blower.

Fleischmann is the central witness in one of the biggest cases of white-collar crime in American history, possessing secrets that JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon late last year paid $9 billion (not $13 billion as regularly reported – more on that later) to keep the public from hearing.

Back in 2006, as a deal manager at the gigantic bank, Fleischmann first witnessed, then tried to stop, what she describes as "massive criminal securities fraud" in the bank's mortgage operations.

Thanks to a confidentiality agreement, she's kept her mouth shut since then. "My closest family and friends don't know what I've been living with," she says. "Even my brother will only find out for the first time when he sees this interview."

Six years after the crisis that cratered the global economy, it's not exactly news that the country's biggest banks stole on a grand scale. That's why the more important part of Fleischmann's story is in the pains Chase and the Justice Department took to silence her.

She was blocked at every turn: by asleep-on-the-job regulators like the Securities and Exchange Commission, by a court system that allowed Chase to use its billions to bury her evidence, and, finally, by officials like outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder, the chief architect of the crazily elaborate government policy of surrender, secrecy and cover-up. "Every time I had a chance to talk, something always got in the way," Fleischmann says.

This past year she watched as Holder's Justice Department struck a series of historic settlement deals with Chase, Citigroup and Bank of America. The root bargain in these deals was cash for secrecy. The banks paid big fines, without trials or even judges – only secret negotiations that typically ended with the public shown nothing but vague, quasi-official papers called "statements of facts," which were conveniently devoid of anything like actual facts.

And now, with Holder about to leave office and his Justice Department reportedly wrapping up its final settlements, the state is effectively putting the finishing touches on what will amount to a sweeping, industrywide effort to bury the facts of a whole generation of Wall Street corruption. "I could be sued into bankruptcy," she says. "I could lose my license to practice law. I could lose everything. But if we don't start speaking up, then this really is all we're going to get: the biggest financial cover-up in history."

I haven't even finished reading it yet, I just had to let you know. Go read it now!


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-9-billion-witness-20141106?page=2






http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/rolling-stone-blockbuster-main-witness
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ROLLINGSTONE BLOCKBUSTER: Main Witness In JPMorgan Case BREAKS HER GAG ORDER (Original Post) Segami Nov 2014 OP
Even though this is like the 5th thread on this.. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #1
I don't care if it's the 19th thread. K&R Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #2
Oooo, she has boxes, does she? LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #12
Fleischmann & Taibbi are on DemocracyNow today!!! ReRe Nov 2014 #68
First I've seen it. K and R away. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #3
This thread needs a gun mindwalker_i Nov 2014 #9
Yeah, I wish these posters would at least check the page before posting yet another thread Doctor_J Nov 2014 #67
this is the first time I have seen this fasttense Nov 2014 #86
I don't care if this is the fiftieth piece on this - Super Important Good Read... truedelphi Nov 2014 #4
So,.. Segami Nov 2014 #5
... Lochloosa Nov 2014 #6
LOL! BlueJazz Nov 2014 #30
Ok,..ok.. Segami Nov 2014 #40
I'm stealing that story BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #74
Well, yes, now that the Dems can't keep obstructing like they have been. riqster Nov 2014 #13
However, this situation was in the making back in 2006. truedelphi Nov 2014 #29
***** NCarolinawoman Nov 2014 #48
Oh yeah, "our" EPA and how well it has become a lap dog for truedelphi Nov 2014 #61
nailed it both times florida08 Nov 2014 #70
If he did the effort was so weak that the problem is worse now than when he was selected and TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #83
Verily. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #92
Since Obama can be tied to Holder, who let this pass mindwalker_i Nov 2014 #34
K&R!! G_j Nov 2014 #7
She doesn't have the magic cufflinks, so she's going to jail BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #8
Dimons involvement in this is the reason for flashing those fancy cuff links. Autumn Nov 2014 #32
what are those, WH? grasswire Nov 2014 #38
Presidential Seal baby! BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #73
Read the whole story marions ghost Nov 2014 #10
Kick for visibility. A very brave person deserves it! riqster Nov 2014 #11
It has been implied that the piece is what caused his abrupt departure from First Look Media. KamaAina Nov 2014 #14
It is hard *not* to think that... at least for me. salin Nov 2014 #15
That's why they tried to buy him from the start. DeSwiss Nov 2014 #44
She should stay out of small airplanes. mn9driver Nov 2014 #16
And big ones, too. I fear for her life. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #18
I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up committing "suicide"... truth2power Nov 2014 #37
My thoughts exactly. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #25
DOJ: "Must. Look. Forward. Now let's go ice that b!tch." blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #17
This really, really irritates me! KansDem Nov 2014 #19
That made me gasp and pissed me off the most eom LittleGirl Nov 2014 #64
How can they fk us over let me count the ways...it's NEVER ENDING nt LiberalElite Nov 2014 #66
"Because after all this activity, all these court actions, all these penalties..." jtuck004 Nov 2014 #20
The PTB are going to "suicide" her. Mark my words. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #21
There is no statute of limitations on public perception. Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #22
+1 woo me with science Nov 2014 #59
K&R Go Vols Nov 2014 #23
How horrifying that I fear for her safety... AzDar Nov 2014 #24
Highly recommend..thank you. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #26
But will the public (you know, those geniuses that vote con or not at all) even hear about this? randys1 Nov 2014 #27
How many would even care is the more disturbing thought for me. stillwaiting Nov 2014 #28
K & R mountain grammy Nov 2014 #31
Yes. Be Careful Alayne colsohlibgal Nov 2014 #33
K & R, R & K, K & R, R & K Agony Nov 2014 #35
K&R. this is the first I've seen it... truth2power Nov 2014 #36
obama has disillusioned me riverbendviewgal Nov 2014 #39
In a way, she's safer this week than she was last week Babel_17 Nov 2014 #55
It's an oligarchy, not a democracy, that's why. woo me with science Nov 2014 #85
I fear you may be right...... northoftheborder Nov 2014 #87
THIS is part of the reason why Eric Holder is a scumbag nikto Nov 2014 #41
The important take-home message here is not that Eric Holder is a scumbag. woo me with science Nov 2014 #45
+1 You got it! nt GliderGuider Nov 2014 #46
bears repeating: UNITE ON POLICY, NOT PARTY. bbgrunt Nov 2014 #47
You are absolutely correct... truth2power Nov 2014 #63
We need to try to get Conservatives away from fast & Furious and onto the REAL stuff... nikto Nov 2014 #80
Amen. We are ALL the victims of the One Percent. woo me with science Nov 2014 #81
That's a wonderful picture. pscot Nov 2014 #76
GOD (or at least, one of 'em) nikto Nov 2014 #42
Kickickickickick!!! & R GliderGuider Nov 2014 #43
Christ, the NSA fan club will start attacking her, "broke the law, national security, blah, blah" whereisjustice Nov 2014 #49
Dear Lord..... nc4bo Nov 2014 #50
It's a must read......To say Holder has been a disappointment is like calling Mount Everest.... yourout Nov 2014 #51
She's Strikingly Beautiful ConnorMarc Nov 2014 #52
If they make a movie of this, she could star as herself. Very photogenic. Frustratedlady Nov 2014 #79
Thanks for posting this! Babel_17 Nov 2014 #53
K&r... spanone Nov 2014 #54
Better than OWS would be a massive protest where we got millions to just stop brewens Nov 2014 #56
Crime of the century, but too big to fail doncha know! Rex Nov 2014 #57
Important stuff. JEB Nov 2014 #58
She can run for office;) grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #60
Massive fraud is the status quo, just look forward and it all magically goes away, LOL Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #62
Does anyone who was gushing over Holder a little while ago have anything to add? nt truebluegreen Nov 2014 #65
crickets! nt grasswire Nov 2014 #77
Again: Does anyone who was gushing over Holder a little while ago have anything to add? johnnyreb Nov 2014 #88
Crickets. Big surprise, ain't it? nt truebluegreen Nov 2014 #90
and they wonder why the country doesn't vote? florida08 Nov 2014 #69
Kick Autumn Nov 2014 #71
Kick for the most important story on DU right now. nt GliderGuider Nov 2014 #72
Kick LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #75
If Obama has any knowledge of this he should be impeached dbackjon Nov 2014 #78
Eeek!! Another one of those traitorous Whistleblowers!! Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #82
kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #84
kick Rex Nov 2014 #89
From one of the article comments: johnnyreb Nov 2014 #91

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
2. I don't care if it's the 19th thread. K&R
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:44 PM
Nov 2014

If this doesn't get splashed everywhere, she will have made a huge sacrifice in vain.

Soon the vandals will arrive to trash her for daring to Make Obama Look Bad.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
68. Fleischmann & Taibbi are on DemocracyNow today!!!
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:19 AM
Nov 2014

(When I read this article last night, I had a feeling Amy would have Taibbi on this morning, but she has both of them!!!)

http://www.DemocracyNow.org

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
67. Yeah, I wish these posters would at least check the page before posting yet another thread
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:52 AM
Nov 2014

I don't know if they're desperate for rec's or what, but for chrissakes, get a clue

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
86. this is the first time I have seen this
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:46 AM
Nov 2014

Wow, corruption on steroids. No wonder the Dems lost the midterm.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
4. I don't care if this is the fiftieth piece on this - Super Important Good Read...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:47 PM
Nov 2014

[h2][font color=red]SUPER WOW.

K & R!

[h2][font color=red]

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
30. LOL!
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:16 PM
Nov 2014

Not laughing at the poster but the question was almost sweet.

Reminded me of a poster who once nicely asked: I've found a wolf puppy and was wondering if I could raise it up to be my "Sweet boy?"

The first poster said "It will eat your Ass"


BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
74. I'm stealing that story
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:41 PM
Nov 2014

I almost blew coffee out my nose at my computer screen. I don't know why it's so brilliant, but it is.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
29. However, this situation was in the making back in 2006.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:08 PM
Nov 2014

The Democrats held both houses of Congress from Jan 2007 on.

And on January 2009, they got a President who had the "D" brand label to back them.

And that President appointed Holder, to head up Justice.

Holder has been there for quite a while, yet I can't name one big time CEO or COO of a major bank who has spent time in jail. Not even when it was revealed that a bank had laundered tens of billions of dollars of drug cartel money. Holder even proclaimed a new doctrine, "Too Big To Jail."

Although it is true that the Dems lost the House in 2010, they certainly didn't suddenly drop the ball on cases prosecuting the banks, as it is the role of the Justice Department to do that.

And FWIW - The illustration on the Rolling Stone article's page explains it all very very clearly.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
48. *****
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:41 PM
Nov 2014

I thought he was going after voter suppression , first in Texas and then in North Carolina.



Also, Duke Energy's ties to the current North Carolina governor and his handpicked local EPA. Corrupt governor got rid of the scientists and filled it with corporate tools. Investigation seems to have vanished into thin air.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
61. Oh yeah, "our" EPA and how well it has become a lap dog for
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:06 AM
Nov 2014

Powerful influential politicians.

I find that scarier than vampires or zombies.

If the Soviets ahd ever attempted to destryo our nenvironment even the least bit, we would have bombed them back to the Stone Age. But Big Monied Interests are given free reign over the nation.



TheKentuckian

(25,018 posts)
83. If he did the effort was so weak that the problem is worse now than when he was selected and
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:03 PM
Nov 2014

Tea Public land so unconcerned that they speak of it openly while Democrats were on here saying that the very act of pointing it out was depressing the vote and that the only fix was getting out the vote ignoring that the got out were being turned away.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
92. Verily.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 10:28 PM
Nov 2014

And as the article clearly states, long after Holder sat on his hands and let the statute of limitations pass for most of the bank crimes,
it was only after the NY AG started filing criminal suits that Jamie Dimon called HOLDER so they could work out something that appeared to settle the issue.

Can you imagine shoplifting from a grocery store and then calling the Prosecutor's office to arrange a slap on the wrist deal?
How would that work out for any of us?



[font style=color:#FF0000;]when exposing a crime is treated as a crime, you are ruled by criminals.[/font]

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
34. Since Obama can be tied to Holder, who let this pass
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:59 PM
Nov 2014

Republicans might be persuaded to go after it. That would leave me in a really bad position.

Autumn

(44,973 posts)
32. Dimons involvement in this is the reason for flashing those fancy cuff links.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:34 PM
Nov 2014

We need a special investigation.

salin

(48,955 posts)
15. It is hard *not* to think that... at least for me.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 05:51 PM
Nov 2014

This doesn't seem like a story he could throw together in the couple of days since the announcement of his leaving that venture. It seems like this would be something he was working while he was part of that venture.

Of course it could be timing. Knew it would be a big story - having grievances with the start up - better break with the start up, and have a lure of a story to dangle to RS so that they would pick him back up. Actually, now that I type this - it seems like the better explanation.

but who knows.....

It *is* a helluva story (Chase - not Tiabbi moving venues).

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
44. That's why they tried to buy him from the start.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:08 PM
Nov 2014
- They knew they couldn't stop his mouth, but they thought they could ''spin it.'' It's what they do.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
37. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up committing "suicide"...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:33 PM
Nov 2014

Then we can listen to the usual suspects around here, saying there's no such thing as a conspiracy.

Michael Hastings comes to mind.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
19. This really, really irritates me!
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:04 PM
Nov 2014

From the article--

The deal was widely considered a good one for both sides, but Chase emerged with barely a scratch. First, the ludicrously nonspecific language surrounding the settlement put you, me and every other American taxpayer on the hook for roughly a quarter of Chase's check. Because most of the settlement monies were specifically not called fines or penalties, Chase was allowed to treat some $7 billion of the settlement as a tax write-off.

Couple this with the fact that the bank's share price soared six percent on news of the settlement, adding more than $12 billion in value to shareholders, and one could argue Chase actually made money from the deal. What's more, to defray the cost of this and other fines, Chase last year laid off 7,500 lower-level employees. Meanwhile, per-employee compensation for everyone else rose four percent, to $122,653. But no one made out better than Dimon. The board awarded a 74 percent raise to the man who oversaw the biggest regulatory penalty ever, upping his compensation package to about $20 million.


We taxpayers paid $7,000,000,000 of Chase's settlement!
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
20. "Because after all this activity, all these court actions, all these penalties..."
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:13 PM
Nov 2014

...
(both real and abortive), even after a fair amount of noise in the press, the target companies remain more ascendant than ever. The people who stole all those billions are still in place. And the bank is more untouchable than ever – former Debevoise & Plimpton hotshots Mary Jo White and Andrew Ceresny, who represented Chase for some of this case, have since been named to the two top jobs at the SEC. As for the bank itself, its stock price has gone up since the settlement and flirts weekly with five-year highs. They may lose the odd battle, but the markets clearly believe the banks won the war. Truth is one thing, and if the right people fight hard enough, you might get to hear it from time to time. But justice is different, and still far enough away.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-9-billion-witness-20141106#ixzz3IKRpGPk5
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

I wonder how that election would have gone if Obama had directed the FBI to staff up and investigate them like they did the S&L folks they put in jail. With no excuses. But knowing what we know now, that was never gonna happen.

Now 10 million people in poverty who weren't before 2008, along with about 20-30 million others who now live in near poverty, many who used to be middle class voters, as well as 4 million of the 7 million families thrown in the street in foreclosure, and the 6 million families desperately trying to stay ahead of loans on homes that no longer worth what they paid, all get to live with it. While the banksters laugh.


stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
28. How many would even care is the more disturbing thought for me.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:58 PM
Nov 2014

I fear many/most would after hearing this story respond with: "Did you see The Voice (or fill in the blank with any other Entertainment or Sports event) last night?!?!"

As long as so many Americans don't give a damn what happens, things will keep getting worse and worse.

No one expects justice to be served, but too many don't even ask for it to be served any longer. So, it won't be served (except in very rare cases).

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
33. Yes. Be Careful Alayne
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:51 PM
Nov 2014

She may even want to hire a food taster. The lessons from history are there - like the bevy of witnesses and key players in the JFK assassination - all the way to Johnny Roselli, who all died one way or another, too many to not mean something.

I am so thrilled Taibbi is back with Rolling Stone, I'm not sure that other venture will ever really launch.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
36. K&R. this is the first I've seen it...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:25 PM
Nov 2014

Why isn't Jamie Dimon in prison???? And why isn't that criminal Eric Holder in prison?

Oh, I forgot.....It's haaard *whine* to prosecute those Wall Street thugs! And doesn't Holder serve at the pleasure of the President?

How come Mr. Obama didn't throw him out on his ass and get someone in there who would do the job? Well, Birds of a feather....

And speaking of....

I came in late to Obama's presser yesterday. One of the last things he said was "I hear you." I about fell on the floor laughing at that.

NOW he hears us? What a GD joke! How come he didn't hear us when "we the people", along with practically every blogger and journalist on the internet were screaming about the crimes being perpetrated by thugs like Jamie Dimon?
"I hear you." Don't make me laugh, Mr. President!

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
39. obama has disillusioned me
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:06 PM
Nov 2014

In 2009 iwent to an inauguration party for him in Canada. Raised a glass of wine to his success. Many of my Canadian friends loved him. Now?

He protected the banks but not the people who believed him and voted for him. I feel we are Dorothy to his Whizard of Oz.

The whistleblower is a brave Canadian. I am proud for her but also worried for her.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
55. In a way, she's safer this week than she was last week
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:32 AM
Nov 2014

There was an incredible lot to gain from her disappearing before this whistleblowing. In an odd way, many guilty parties should hope no bolt of lightning should strike her. (Like Brando said in the Godfather) It would be attributed to a guilty class of bankers and lend weight to the case against them.

Who knows, maybe she was under unfriendly surveillance and decided she had to act.

Hmm, actually, she might need such a defense, if she's in technical violation of a law.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
85. It's an oligarchy, not a democracy, that's why.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 04:49 PM
Nov 2014

This isn't about one rogue in the administration.

The important take-home message here is that both parties are working for Wall Street.

Third Way talking points will try to make it all about individuals, but the point here is that our government has changed. We are in a post-democratic, post-partisan era of government (despite all theater and propaganda to the contrary) in which both parties have been corrupted by Wall Street money and are quietly working together behind the scenes to advance Wall Street's agenda.

The real political game is not what they tell us it is. Red versus Blue is a distraction, tool, and a manipulation. They depend on us to trust in a system that doesn't exist anymore.

We need to unite on policy, not party.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
41. THIS is part of the reason why Eric Holder is a scumbag
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:14 PM
Nov 2014

Holder is scum---It is unequivocal.

Obama's choice of Holder to be AG is a tragedy of lost opportunity.


Sort of like Geitner in Finance and Duncan in Education.

Disastrous appointments, all.





woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
45. The important take-home message here is not that Eric Holder is a scumbag.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:13 PM
Nov 2014

It is that both parties are working for Wall Street.

Third Way talking points will try to make it all about individuals, but the point here is that our government has changed. We are in a post-democratic, post-partisan era of government (despite all theater and propaganda to the contrary) in which both parties have been corrupted by Wall Street money and are quietly working together behind the scenes to advance Wall Street's agenda.

The real political game is not what they tell us it is. Red versus Blue is a distraction, tool, and a manipulation. They depend on us to trust in a system that doesn't exist anymore.

We need to unite on policy, not party.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
63. You are absolutely correct...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:35 AM
Nov 2014

Before long we'll be in pre-election 2016 mode (is that all there is in life anymore? post-election, pre-election; it's never-ending) and we'll be told to put our support behind Hillary, because this time the Democrats are going to save us, and on and on and on.

Meanwhile, the wars go on, our infrastructure falls apart and American workers struggle to survive, and the Wall Street criminals laugh all the way to the bank, our "leaders" talk about how they accept 'responsibility' for the mess, but nothing ever changes.



 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
80. We need to try to get Conservatives away from fast & Furious and onto the REAL stuff...
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:11 AM
Nov 2014

Like "Too Big to Jail".

RW media seeks to distract its audience from real issues where the 2 parties are actually quite alike,
as with Wall St policy.

Progressives need to reverse this, whenever possible, such as
in changing the subject from "fast/Furious" to
the in$ider deal$ made with Morgan Chase/Jamie Dimon and
Goldman Sachs/Lloyd Blankfein, which basically allowed a coverup of their actual crimes,
and a "payoff" of billions of dollars in bank funds to avoid prison,
as the article states.

We need to share this info with Conservatives.

FAUXNooZ won't cover it much, that's for sure.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
49. Christ, the NSA fan club will start attacking her, "broke the law, national security, blah, blah"
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:59 PM
Nov 2014

Obama refuses to hold the rich and powerful accountable. Holder, NSA, SEC, CIA - meanwhile we are stuffing prisons with pot smokers.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
50. Dear Lord.....
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:00 PM
Nov 2014

So I wonder how many pension funds are still wrapped up in this mess?

Is the rush to privatize government pensions or actually any employee's pension plan a part of this?

In some other country, there would be executions.

yourout

(7,524 posts)
51. It's a must read......To say Holder has been a disappointment is like calling Mount Everest....
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:24 PM
Nov 2014

a pretty big hill.

Should be charged with aiding and abetting.

brewens

(13,536 posts)
56. Better than OWS would be a massive protest where we got millions to just stop
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:36 AM
Nov 2014

paying their credit card bills. All at once would tank those bastards for sure!

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
62. Massive fraud is the status quo, just look forward and it all magically goes away, LOL
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:19 AM
Nov 2014

until the Ds lose all credibility and corrupt Rs return to do it all over again.

What a great system, NOT.

florida08

(4,106 posts)
69. and they wonder why the country doesn't vote?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:49 AM
Nov 2014

I am sick to death of too big to jail. Neither party did anything

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
78. If Obama has any knowledge of this he should be impeached
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:09 PM
Nov 2014

With the impeachment led by Warren and Sanders

And Eric Holder needs to go to jail he probably is going to pocket billions off this himself

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
82. Eeek!! Another one of those traitorous Whistleblowers!!
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 01:54 PM
Nov 2014

Does she date a pole-dancer? Have cardboard boxes in her garage? Travel to Hong Kong? Snooty to her neighbors?

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
91. From one of the article comments:
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:38 PM
Nov 2014
Steelhorsecowboy

I am a real estate appraiser and every week since 2007 I have waded through the carnage and refuse of people's lives left behind as I inspect properties that have been foreclosed on. I see children's toys, wedding albums (divorce often is a byproduct of foreclosure), boxes of resumes never sent and other things left behind. In one bright pink bedroom with pony stickers, a little girl scrawled on the wall:"I will miss my bedroom".
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