NOAA: Maybe no "Polar Vortex" this winter -

[LiberalElite]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/16/us/winter-weather-outlook/index.html?hpt=hp_t5

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(CNN) -- Oh good, the brutal cold conditions that froze much of the country last winter are unlikely to happen again.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said in its seasonal outlook Thursday that some of those areas east of the Rockies might even see warmer temperatures this time.

Remember how we kept talking about the Polar Vortex last winter? Chances are there won't be as much chatter about it as we move into December and January.

"The Polar Vortex is always there," CNN meteorologist Dave Hennen reminded us. "When it breaks, it spills cold air into the U.S. It's pretty unlikely that it would happen two years in a row."
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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. That woud be nice. I didn't especially like the Polar Vortex.

[KittyWampus]

2. I love cold weather. Don't like heating bills.

Or semi-permanent sheet of ice in the yard making walking hazardous.

[Jamastiene]

5. What gets me is that I could leave the thermostat fairly low.

My aunt is quadriplegic and hates even temperatures below 75. So, I sweat and feel like I am melting just about year round. We hardly ever get to have snow here. I hate summer and we have that for about 10 months a year.

[KittyWampus]

13. When my friend goes to see his elderly mom in Ohio he jokes it's so hot in the winter

insider her house, cause she has the heat up so high, you have to wear a t-shirt.

And in the summer, it's so cold from air conditioning you have to wear a sweater.

[Cirque du So-What]

3. I wouldn't mind a respite from a winter like the last one

It was brutal in Cleveland.

[Jamastiene]

4. Sorry to be selfish here, but on this, I cannot help it.

We so rarely get snow where I live.

So, here is my reaction to this news:
"Dammit! I wanted snow." Yeah, you can quote me on that.

Hate me if you must for it, but imagine if you never got something that you actually enjoy a lot. You'd want it more. I really need to move north and to a higher elevation, but not too high, because I get motion sickness/high elevation sickness and it lands me on my butt. The reason I mention the motion sickness is because mountains are too beautiful for me to be still. I spend too much time careening my neck to look at all the breathtakingly beautiful views. Snow does the same thing to me. Want to see me grin from ear to ear like a kid on Christmas morning who got their Red Ryder BB Gun? Let it snow and add a few icicles then show it to me. I can't help myself.

Ok, donning flameproof suit now, but remember, if I can find a way to grab some snow, I'm throwing snowballs at people.

[dionysus]

6. do you not acclimate to hight altitudes over time? When i visited Boulder, CO, i was lightheaded

and a little short of breath the first few days, but by the end of the week I was used to it.

When I was growing up in the northeast it always snowed a ton. it hasn't been the same in recent times.

Every year we'd get a big thaw in January, followed by a deep freeze; I always had a pretty good sized ice rink in my yard. It hasn't turned to ice in over 10 years, probably more

[Jamastiene]

8. For some reason, I don't.

I also have problems with being allergic to adrenaline rushes. So, when I get excited, I get sickly anyhow. When I met Joan Jett, I got sick, literally. She was polite about it too. She's great at making you feel better.

I just can't seem to handle excitement too much. So, part of it might be that. But, the views at high altitudes would make me look around so much that I would still get the adrenaline thing and the motion sickness. I'd love to be able to stay in a snowy area with a cabin in some mountains for about a month to see if I could settle down and get used to the altitude and the excitement. It would be great if I could.

[dionysus]

9. dang, that's too bad. I'd love to live in the Boulder, CO area, but the housing prices are insane.

[Jamastiene]

10. Yep, I always wanted to live in the northeast, but

compared to the minimum wage jobs where I live coupled with very low rent very low other prices, such as groceries, I could never afford it. It takes ages making minimum wage to save up to be able to afford a place to stay, much less groceries and other costs in the northeast. Even moving to the nearest big city in NC, rent alone would cost an entire month's pay and then some.

I'm lucky though. I found a place that everyone else called a hovel and paid it off by renting to own, because I had no credit and it came cheaply enough and the man worked with me on it. If only we had more snow...I would love that.

[dionysus]

12. my friend moved from NY to NC after college, he says the living expenses and realty prices are much,

much less than in the NE.

[Jamastiene]

14. They really are.

Average rent in my hometown is anywhere from $400 to $600 a month. The $600 a month is for the very large houses in the more scenic areas. Everything is a lot cheaper here. The average person doesn't make much money either though. So, it's still a struggle.

[dionysus]

18. i couldn't deal with the summer weather. it gets plenty hot up here, always reaches the 90s at some

point during the summer in NY. I like walking around in the snow bundled up.. I just don't like snowblowing or shoveling it!

before I hurt my back I enjoyed skiing a few times a year.

[GeorgeGist]

7. The private sector agrees ...

AccuWeather reports:

Cold air will surge into the Northeast in late November, but the brunt of the season will hold off until January and February. The polar vortex, the culprit responsible for several days of below-zero temperatures last year, will slip down into the region from time to time, delivering blasts of arctic air.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/us-2014-2015-winter-forecast/35422753

[Jamastiene]

11. I'm thinking that means it will be mildly cool and then go back to the 10 month long

summers we have here in south central/eastern NC.

[Fawke Em]

15. I loved it, too.

I'm in Tennessee and we get some, but the sustained cold weather finally killed all the fleas I had been battling on my pets' dander for years.

It was getting to where none of the flea medications worked. We even used a flea spray on the yard. Barely made a dent.

This summer we didn't have one flea. It was so nice.

The weather folks around here said it was because of the colder-than-normal winter: killed a lot of the bugs no one likes.

[former9thward]

16. Weather forecasters use so many weasel words that anything could happen

and they will say they were correct.

Polar Vortex Could Return This Winter

“After record-shattering temperatures and high snow totals last winter in the Northeast, a similar theme will continue into the 2014-2015 season,” said forecasters Accuweather, noting that the polar vortex, a sequel no one asked for, “will slip down into the [Northeast] region from time to time,” although it will not be as “persistent.”

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has a more tempered projection for this winter, however. Even though temperatures will be below average in the south-central and southeastern states, it said, overall weather will not be as extreme as the winter of 2013-2014. It even forecast that the west coast will experience one of its warmest winters on record. Drought conditions are expected to improve in December and January.

http://time.com/3513033/polar-vortex-winter/

[derby378]

17. I'd like a Polar Vortex hovering over the North Pole

You know, where everything is supposed to be frozen.