Glad you love your kids. We love ours too.

[kpete]

Ann Romney Is All That Stands between Your Baby and The Slavering Jaws of Joseph Stalin

....................

The state -- our democracy, what's left of it -- is the counterweight to you.

Glad you love your kids. We love ours too.

You fear communism, which is batshit. We fear plutocracy, which is actual.

So, bite me. You know? Parent to parent? Bite me.

http://whiskeyfire.typepad.com/
http://whiskeyfire.typepad.com/whiskey_fire/2012/04/ann-romney-is-all-that-stands-between-your-baby-and-the-slavering-jaws-of-joseph-stalin.html
http://upwithchrishayes.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/15/11209115-romney-welfare-parents-need-to-go-to-work?lite

[seabeyond]

1. i wish we would leave this woman alone. nt

[hlthe2b]

3. It is her husband's policies and political stances we need to focus on...

She should be a non-entity. The problem is that she is making herself a spokesperson and lead advocate for those policies. And to the extent she points to herself as a "role model" for those policies, it is hard to fathom not pointing out the hypocrisy. But, the comments need to be directed at her husband's policies and not at her personally.


edited for typo

[seabeyond]

4. then talk about the policies. that is not what is happening here. it is more putting woman under

microscope to judge women and choices. and we all fail, regardless of what our choice is. it has been relentless, nonstop, attack on women for too long now. not just with this. but in all things.

[hlthe2b]

7. I do think the hypocrisy needs to be addressed. It is relevent.

While I agree that she has every right to her own choices, that hypocrisy in attitudes and what is "ok" for the wealthy, yet not for the rest needs to be addressed.

This just about says it for me:

Mitt Romney: Mothers Should Be Required To Work Outside Home Or Lose Benefits
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/15/mitt-romney-mothers-welfare-moms_n_1426113.html

Mitt Romney’s doubletalk on motherhood
His wife's "job" is "more important" than his, but he'd make welfare moms work "from day one if we could"
http://www.salon.com/2012/04/15/mitt_romneys_doubletalk_on_motherhood/

[laundry_queen]

12. I think this needs to be talked about also.

Yes, often it becomes a pointless debate about who is the best mom, but I think if the light is shown on this in the correct way, showing how Rmoney sees a distinction between classes and how mothers should act, women are generally smart enough to figure out exactly what he's getting at. It is important to show that, once again, his proposed policies don't match how he conducts his own life - that he sees himself as 'above' his own policies.

Look, most women have already figured out how this Hilary Rosen comment and the following faux outrage was manufactured and that Ann Romney is hopelessly out of touch. On mainstream sites, comments against Ann by women are at least 7-1. Women simply aren't buying into the media narrative. I think the media has yet to figure that one out.

[HiPointDem]

13. +1. What's happening is *that* message is being drowned out, though. Weirdly or perhaps not

so weirdly, as that message is a politically effective one that many on the other side would agree with (or couldn't disagree with).

[laundry_queen]

15. Yes, once again Democrats are way behind on this. nt

[orpupilofnature57]

5. It's not the woman ,it's what she Doesn't

represent ,and you can't blame people for criticizing people ,who not only don't want to be " left alone " , but want to help Lead us ,alone indeed.

[seabeyond]

6. all i am seeing this generate is attack on all women, all the time, regardless of choices

that a woman makes. just another created battle pitting women against women as we all label and judge.

[orpupilofnature57]

8. She's a 1% privileged Being . Period

Trying to speak to what she couldn't possibly know ,Thats an insult to all Woman.

[seabeyond]

10. and instead what i am seeing on du is the judgment of all women, thru this situation with this woman

you, i or anyone else on this board knows SHIT about what this woman did in her life with her children. and we are ALL feeling very fuckin comfortable judging her as a mother. you. do. not. know. shit.

why pretend otherwise. you want to discuss her being rich, or romneys hypocrisy on his comments, fine.

but that is not what i am seeing on du. i am seeing the working against the non against the rich against the poor against the "life of leisure" for ALL women if they are able to pay their bills. it is so beyond what this ONE situation is. and ALL of it is attack on women and putting her under the microscope to judge......

[orpupilofnature57]

20. As far as my reasoning your right....

and I. DON'T . KNOW . SHIT . about being a woman , or a mother ,or the wife of a misanthrope ,who probably adores him with all her heart ,so on a human level . Sorry

[hlthe2b]

9. I can't agree with you on this, sea....

While I definitely don't want Ann Romney or any other candidate's wife attacked in any way--much less for the choices they made in life, neither do I intend to let them attack others for the choices they are not ABLE to make.

I think the issue here is the elitism and the fact that they think nothing of the 99% and their struggles. THAT is a very real issue independent of women.

[seabeyond]

11. discuss the issue and leave the individual out. you do not know what this woman was as a mother

yet we all arrogantly talk about her hands off as a parent. who the fuck are we? because i can pay my electric bill we have a thread calling me a "lady of leisure". a thread in feminist room telling us if you fuckin RAISE your kids and arent handing responsibility to the older children and out in ADULT world of workforce, you are.....

i am seeing a massive attack on women on du, and everyone participating saying it is all about this woman.

[laundry_queen]

14. I disagree. this is not an attack on women.

It's an attack on the 99%. It's shining light on hypocrisy. Most places I've seen comments online, women understand this distinction. I haven't seen anyone say 'Ann Romney is a bad mom" anywhere. They are just saying that she shouldn't be saying she worked as hard as those women who struggle to feed their family by getting up at 5 am everyday. It's a rich vs poor, not an anti-woman debate.

[hlthe2b]

21. I hear your anger... but I'm not seeing that myself...

Have women come under attack on DU--increasingly? Absolutely. But, I'm not sure I can tie it to this.

I don't think most DUers think less of stay-at-home Moms if that is what you are saying. I do think there has been evolution on that score. What it seems to me that they are concerned about is how rarely that is even an option. It certainly is no longer an option for any of my friends. No matter how much they diminish their standard of living. Had both not been working-- at least two couples would likely have been on the street after one or both lost jobs.

If Duers are accusing Ann Romney of being a "hands off parent"--I haven't seen that either. Many are surmising she very likely had help, but that doesn't mean she was "hands off." Who wouldn't have a housekeeper or cook or whatever, if you could afford it--especially with five BOYS.

SeaBeyond, I believe you when you say you are seeing this... but I haven't

[Tom Ripley]

16. Gynovision will lead to that

[seabeyond]

18. what are you talking about? nt

[October]

23. You are spot-on, seabeyond!

Choice is choice.

I do not begrudge Ms. Romney's 'good' fortune or her choices. I want us all to be able to keep those choices open for our daughters and granddaughters...

The judgment of women here and in the media is just another media circus.

[emilyg]

17. Yes. She is not running for office.

[ljm2002]

19. Feel free to leave her alone...

...but she put herself out there into the political fray, by tweeting about her stay-at-home-mom-ness, therefore she is fair game, WITHIN the bounds of civility. I'm not seeing too much incivility, actually, although there's always someone somewhere who will go too far; and of course there is also often disagreement about what constitutes "too far".

Anyway. This daughter of privilege, wife of privilege, has no concept of the struggles of real people in this country every day, not to mention the struggles of real women who don't have the financial security of the Romneys. If she wants to put her opinions out there, that's fine, she gets to. But the rest of us get to respond to those opinions as well.

[progressoid]

22. As soon as her party decides to leave women alone.

[orpupilofnature57]

2. I don't have kids ,but I have your view !

Not knowing what they are is their objective , without knowing it.